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  • raiders72001
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    • 08-10-05
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    #71
    Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
    Averaged 28 points- 8 rebounds- 4 assists- 2 steals a game in the finals

    What the fukk are you guys talking about?? I guess if he averaged 50 points a game in the finals then they would have had a chance.....Unreal
    you never watched Bird, Jordan or Magic. Even Kobe has more heart and wouldn't quit.
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    • jtoler
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      • 12-17-13
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      #72
      Originally posted by The Giant
      Do you guys believe Michael Jordan, in his prime, could have led this Miami team to a title over San Antonio?

      Not a chance.
      Not sure honestly, more physical when Jordan played, if a team like the Spurs were playing in late 80's early 90's scoring at will, somebody on the opposing team would have been giving them hard fouls being very physical and wouldnt have to worry about getting thrown out of the game, that right there can change alot of things in a series.
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      • raiders72001
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        • 08-10-05
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        #73
        Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
        Exactly

        Why is it so hard to leave it at that for the haters?

        I'm not even a big Lebron fan but I find myself defending him due to all of the ignorance out there
        Jordan retired the first time at 29 after winning three titles and went to play baseball for 2 years.
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        • The Giant
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          • 01-21-12
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          #74
          Originally posted by raiders72001
          Yes. Jordan willed the team to win. Jackson had nothing to do with it. LeBron has no heart.
          Michael Jordan never went to the finals four years in a row.
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          • jtoler
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            • 12-17-13
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            #75
            Originally posted by raiders72001
            you never watched Bird, Jordan or Magic. Even Kobe has more heart and wouldn't quit.
            I wouldnt put Kobe in that category, Ive seen him down double digits many times and then he turns into facilitator Kobe.
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            • thetrinity
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              • 01-25-11
              • 22430

              #76
              Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
              Exactly

              Why is it so hard to leave it at that for the haters?

              I'm not even a big Lebron fan but I find myself defending him due to all of the ignorance out there
              ya me neither, flame him for the decision and choking in 2011, cant really say anything about this series. magic johnson and larry bird had multiple losses in the finals.
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              • BettingWizard
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                • 11-28-09
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                #77
                Originally posted by mohye1980
                Forget Jordan. He's not even better than Kobe.
                ....
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                • raiders72001
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                  • 08-10-05
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by The Giant
                  Michael Jordan never went to the finals four years in a row.
                  He went 6 years in a row if you exclude the 2 baseball years. 3 titles in a row, baseball, 3 more titles in a

                  Jordan never lost in the finals.
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                  • Roadtrip635
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                    • 12-07-10
                    • 6129

                    #79
                    Originally posted by jtoler
                    Not sure honestly, more physical when Jordan played, if a team like the Spurs were playing in late 80's early 90's scoring at will, somebody on the opposing team would have been giving them hard fouls being very physical and wouldnt have to worry about getting thrown out of the game, that right there can change alot of things in a series.
                    Don't forget the early Spurs championship teams played that style as well, Pop coached that physical defense as well. This Spurs team has adapted over time with their style of play.
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                    • raiders72001
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                      • 08-10-05
                      • 11146

                      #80
                      LeBron lost the Dallas finals on his own. Sat on the perimeter the whole 4th quarter of every game and just watched.
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                      • bigtymer56
                        SBR MVP
                        • 07-31-12
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                        #81
                        Originally posted by Thor4140
                        the cast he had in Cleveland never got credit for anything. U believe James carried the whole team. I remember one series he didn't show up till game 4. U nitwits never count every game and just his one big one a series. The media has pounded it in ya that he carried that team on his shoulders but that is total bullshit to anyone who actually watched every game just like it is gonna be bullshit when they act like he is the only player to show up. The apologist will be out in full force just like when Dallas beat them.
                        What series was that?

                        And maybe im wrong but dont really remember people apologizing for him after that Dallas series. That was all on him. Not really sure how people get on him for the 2 loses to the spurs. His teams were just straight up outclassed both times. Guy averaged 28-8-4 on 57% shooting for this series and they still got their asses handed to them. Not sure what else you want him to do.
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                        • raiders72001
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                          • 08-10-05
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                          #82
                          Leonard outplayed LeBron.
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                          • MoneyLineDawg
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                            • 01-01-09
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                            #83
                            Originally posted by raiders72001
                            you never watched Bird, Jordan or Magic. Even Kobe has more heart and wouldn't quit.
                            What are you even talking about? How does that have anything to do with Lebron playing well this series and the Heat still getting raped??

                            Yeah it's because Lebron's a quitter and has no heart.....Fine you win
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                            • raiders72001
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                              • 08-10-05
                              • 11146

                              #84
                              Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                              What are you even talking about? How does that have anything to do with Lebron playing well this series and the Heat still getting raped??

                              Yeah it's because Lebron's a quitter and has no heart.....Fine you win
                              WHy didn't LeBron play like he did in the first quarter. He wasn't passing the ball, he just took the game in his own hands. He should have kept doing it. In the 4th Q he shot 40% for the series. He's a quitter with no heart.
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                              • The Giant
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                                • 01-21-12
                                • 21480

                                #85
                                Originally posted by raiders72001
                                He went 6 years in a row if you exclude the 2 baseball years. 3 titles in a row, baseball, 3 more titles in a

                                Jordan never lost in the finals.

                                Did Michael Jordan go and play baseball because he had no heart?
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                                • Mac4Lyfe
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-04-09
                                  • 48395

                                  #86
                                  Yes... I saw with my own eyes carry his team night after night, year after year, dating back to college. Jordan never took off nights, hell he never took off plays. People talk about Lebron's defense but they must have never seen Jordan's? He could lock down anybody AND nobody could stop him on offense. He could go 1 on 3 or 4 and jump over all 4 defenders in the paint. Lebron has trouble scoring when teams double and triple hedge him. Lebron relegates himself into jump shots instead of driving to the hoop. Jordan was getting to the rim, no matter who was in front of him.

                                  Hell how many people remember how many put backs Jordan use to get when other Bulls were shooting free throws? Jordan would take off from the top of the key when the FT was shot and many times rebounded it with a put back dunk over everybody. I've never seen that done since he left the game.

                                  Jordan use to just take over games. Everyone knew he had the ball and was shooting the ball but you couldn't stop him. I've seen Lebron take over a bunch of games too but not like Jordan would do. Jordan did it almost every night.

                                  Originally posted by The Giant
                                  Do you guys believe Michael Jordan, in his prime, could have led this Miami team to a title over San Antonio?

                                  Not a chance.
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                                  • raiders72001
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                                    • 08-10-05
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                                    #87
                                    The way LeBron played in the first quarter is how Jordan played in the 4th quarter.
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                                    • MoneyLineDawg
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                                      • 01-01-09
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                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by raiders72001
                                      WHy didn't LeBron play like he did in the first quarter. He wasn't passing the ball, he just took the game in his own hands. He should have kept doing it. In the 4th Q he shot 40% for the series. He's a quitter with no heart.
                                      the 4th Quarter the game was over

                                      Only so much one man can do

                                      Bill Russell is the GOAT anyway by your logic.....MJ not even close
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                                      • raiders72001
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                                        • 08-10-05
                                        • 11146

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                        Yes... I saw with my own eyes carry his team night after night, year after year, dating back to college. Jordan never took off nights, hell he never took off plays. People talk about Lebron's defense but they must have never seen Jordan's? He could lock down anybody AND nobody could stop him on offense. He could go 1 on 3 or 4 and jump over all 4 defenders in the paint. Lebron has trouble scoring when teams double and triple hedge him. Lebron relegates himself into jump shots instead of driving to the hoop. Jordan was getting to the rim, no matter who was in front of him.

                                        Hell how many people remember how many put backs Jordan use to get when other Bulls were shooting free throws? Jordan would take off from the top of the key when the FT was shot and many times rebounded it with a put back dunk over everybody. I've never seen that done since he left the game.
                                        great post
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                                        • Roadtrip635
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                                          • 12-07-10
                                          • 6129

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by raiders72001
                                          WHy didn't LeBron play like he did in the first quarter. He wasn't passing the ball, he just took the game in his own hands. He should have kept doing it. In the 4th Q he shot 40% for the series. He's a quitter with no heart.
                                          Maybe it was cramps or diarrhea or sprained ankle (media started reporting about that after last game)
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                                          • Roadtrip635
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                                            • 12-07-10
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                                            #91
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                                            • raiders72001
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                                              • 08-10-05
                                              • 11146

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                              the 4th Quarter the game was over

                                              Only so much one man can do

                                              Bill Russell is the GOAT anyway by your logic.....MJ not even close
                                              series dummy. Disappeared against Dallas. Does it all the time in the clutch.
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                                              • raiders72001
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                                                • 08-10-05
                                                • 11146

                                                #93
                                                The way LeBron played in the first quarter is how Jordan played in the 4th quarter. That's why the stats don't tell the story.
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                                                • MoneyLineDawg
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                                                  • 01-01-09
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                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by raiders72001
                                                  series dummy. Disappeared against Dallas. Does it all the time in the clutch.
                                                  I already gave you his stats for the series, dummy

                                                  What do you want him to do to win the series when his team gets demolished with those stats, dummy?

                                                  All the heart in the world + being a "non quitter" (lol) wouldn't have done a damn thing the way the Spurs played, dummy

                                                  Get a clue
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                                                  • raiders72001
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                                                    • 08-10-05
                                                    • 11146

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                                    I already gave you his stats for the series, dummy

                                                    What do you want him to do to win the series when his team gets demolished with those stats, dummy?

                                                    All the heart in the world + being a "non quitter" (lol) wouldn't have done a damn thing the way the Spurs played, dummy

                                                    Get a clue
                                                    dummy- He played great at the beginning of the game. He quit when the going got tough. I don't care about when the game was out of hand.
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                                                    • allang198
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                                                      • 05-14-14
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                                                      #96
                                                      Lebron is great
                                                      MJ was great

                                                      lets stop acting like thick idiots and enjoy the nba

                                                      no fukk cares who is better
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                                                      • Kermit
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                                                        • 09-27-10
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                                                        #97
                                                        I've seen teams down 10 points with under a minute left come back and win. Down 18 with over 6 minutes left and the best player in the world is on the bench?
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                                                        • Mac4Lyfe
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                                                          • 01-04-09
                                                          • 48395

                                                          #98
                                                          For all you young cats...

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                                                          • MoneyLineDawg
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                                                            • 01-01-09
                                                            • 13253

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by raiders72001
                                                            dummy- He played great at the beginning of the game. He quit when the going got tough.
                                                            You really are lost.....hiding behind generalizations like "he quit" or "has no heart", so predictable, so pathetic....He played really damn well and his team got slaughtered this series
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                                                            • thetrinity
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                                                              • 01-25-11
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                                                              #100
                                                              i just don't understand how you can compare a movie that's 2/3rds written against on that was out over 15 years ago.
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                                                              • raiders72001
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                                                                • 08-10-05
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                                                                #101
                                                                Reggie Miller
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                                                                • MoneyLineDawg
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                                                                  • 01-01-09
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                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by allang198
                                                                  Lebron is great
                                                                  MJ was great

                                                                  lets stop acting like thick idiots and enjoy the nba

                                                                  no fukk cares who is better
                                                                  Exactly and Lebron still has a good 7-8 years left

                                                                  They will be both be two of the top 5 ever.....All of the back and forth is just petty garbage
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                                                                  • raiders72001
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                                                                    • 08-10-05
                                                                    • 11146

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                                                    You really are lost.....hiding behind generalizations like "he quit" or "has no heart", so predictable, so pathetic....He played really damn well and his team got slaughtered this series
                                                                    dummy- Get it through your head. LeBron is a front runner. There isn't any toughness. He should be the greatest player of all time because of his physical abilities but is mentally weak.
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                                                                    • MoneyLineDawg
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                                                                      • 01-01-09
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                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                                      For all you young cats...

                                                                      I grew up in the 90s and MJ was unreal

                                                                      Lebron is an amazing player in his own right though

                                                                      They don't even have similar styles so why do we always have to compare them?
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                                                                      • raiders72001
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                                                                        • 08-10-05
                                                                        • 11146

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                                                        Exactly and Lebron still has a good 7-8 years left

                                                                        They will be both be two of the top 5 ever.....All of the back and forth is just petty garbage
                                                                        LeBron isn't close to top 5. Watch some tape of Wilt, Kareem, Jordan, Bird, Magic.
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