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  • mmike032
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-11-08
    • 8905

    #106
    Originally posted by RebateWager
    We will or can throw in 200 bucks for anyone that wants to do it.
    here come all the broke fvcks outta the woodwork
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #107
      Nicky should grade it
      he is a pro
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      • RebateWager
        SBR High Roller
        • 10-30-08
        • 145

        #108
        First person to except in this thread getsthe grading job otherwise we will do it if there are no takers by the end of todays action.
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        • MilfDriller
          Restricted User
          • 11-23-08
          • 10186

          #109
          Yeah, not in agreement w/ jacked juice.

          Anyways, whoever grades should list the corresponding price in parenthesis next to the wager.

          And Nicky, you are smoking crack w/ your statement of > 60% for 200 picks in 60 days... and even saying 64%.... shit, you're out of your mind.


          120-80 (you wouldn't do this on 60,200)

          128-72 (not even w/ jacked juice, sir)
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          • Nicky Santoro
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 04-08-08
            • 16103

            #110
            Originally posted by RebateWager
            First person to except in this thread getsthe grading job otherwise we will do it if there are no takers by the end of todays action.
            i'll grade it.
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            • MilfDriller
              Restricted User
              • 11-23-08
              • 10186

              #111
              except.... ouch
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              • Nicky Santoro
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 04-08-08
                • 16103

                #112
                rw,

                you realize he's pulling a fast one on you.. he's scamming you.. he just pretended to be a nice guy by saying he won't play puck lines at -290.. of course he won't. that would be outright stealing.

                but what about playing every total that is -130 to -145. isn't that stealing, too???


                this guy is pulling a fast one on you. he should at least be fair and only play spreads on NCAAB, NCAAF, NBA and NFL.. he is taking ml favorites now..
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                • durito
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 07-03-06
                  • 13173

                  #113
                  Originally posted by MilfDriller
                  Yeah, not in agreement w/ jacked juice.

                  Anyways, whoever grades should list the corresponding price in parenthesis next to the wager.

                  And Nicky, you are smoking crack w/ your statement of > 60% for 200 picks in 60 days... and even saying 64%.... shit, you're out of your mind.


                  120-80 (you wouldn't do this on 60,200)

                  128-72 (not even w/ jacked juice, sir)
                  You might want to learn what juice is.
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                  • MonkeyF0cker
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 06-12-07
                    • 12144

                    #114
                    I didn't make the rules, Nicky. I'm only playing by them.
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                    • Nicky Santoro
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 04-08-08
                      • 16103

                      #115
                      Originally posted by durito
                      You might want to learn what juice is.
                      thank you for educating some posters here..
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                      • MilfDriller
                        Restricted User
                        • 11-23-08
                        • 10186

                        #116
                        It should be for sides/totals around -110. If it gets jacked later, so be it.

                        Anyways, carry on. This is a great thread.
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                        • smitch124
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 05-19-08
                          • 12566

                          #117
                          This has cluster**** written all over it
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                          • Nicky Santoro
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 04-08-08
                            • 16103

                            #118
                            rw,

                            at least change the rules. you said spreads.. so don't use hockey totals. nhl totals are considered ml bets. do you have any idea what a half puck is worth?? wow...

                            only the major sports sides and totals.. that is the new rule, ok..

                            so i am deleting nhl totals. his picks don't count.. or you just lose.. lets just award him the 1k now.. ok??
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                            • MilfDriller
                              Restricted User
                              • 11-23-08
                              • 10186

                              #119
                              In sports betting "juice" is the commission paid to bookmakers on losing bets for the privaledge of betting. For example, on a $110 football bet, the winning bettors collect only $100. The extra $10 is the juice.


                              Do you care to provide your own definition, ugly bald guy?
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                              • durito
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 07-03-06
                                • 13173

                                #120
                                Originally posted by MilfDriller
                                In sports betting "juice" is the commission paid to bookmakers on losing bets for the privaledge of betting. For example, on a $110 football bet, the winning bettors collect only $100. The extra $10 is the juice.


                                Do you care to provide your own definition, ugly bald guy?
                                Sweet spelling.

                                Juice is the amount of money expected to be held by a bookmaker. On a -110/-110 lineset, the juice is 4.54% ($10 held for every $220 risked 10/220)

                                On a -135/115 lineset, the juice is not "jacked up", in fact it is less (3.8%).

                                You are confusing payout odds and implied win % with juice.
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                                • MonkeyF0cker
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 06-12-07
                                  • 12144

                                  #121
                                  Nicky,

                                  If betting straight -110's without an edge results in a 50% win rate, then betting -110's with an edge (over +100) and anything with a no-vig line of -101 or greater, resulting in a win percentage higher than 50% would also prove my point that the markets are efficient and that betting with no edge leads to a 50% long term win rate. Market efficiency is what we're testing.

                                  If I bet all games with a 54-57% win probability based on their no-vig line and hit close to that number, I both validate my point that the markets are efficient and win the contest at the same time. Do I not?
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                                  • MrMonkey
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 11-09-08
                                    • 2278

                                    #122
                                    This thread is starting to look like it belongs in the Think Tank! and
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                                    • jayc88
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 12-30-07
                                      • 6785

                                      #123
                                      where are his picks?
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                                      • MilfDriller
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 11-23-08
                                        • 10186

                                        #124
                                        No, durito, you're simply being your usual self... you're trying to be a cowardly ass.

                                        Why not let the man play money lines at -200 and beyond? I know this is what you would do.
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                                        • onthewhat
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 05-14-08
                                          • 15411

                                          #125
                                          I will grade this, let me know
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                                          • Nicky Santoro
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 04-08-08
                                            • 16103

                                            #126
                                            when RW said winning 50% or more, he was referring to spreads and totals, ONLY.. ncaab, ncaaf, nba, and nfl.. NOT nhl.. nhl is all ml stuff. 5 ov -145 is NOT a spread..

                                            as the official grader of this contest, this is considered cheating and scamming.. from here on, it's all sides and totals of all major sports.. so pls delete those 3 nhl totals and we shall start from scratch.

                                            Thank You,

                                            Nicky.
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                                            • MonkeyF0cker
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 06-12-07
                                              • 12144

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                              5 ov -145 is NOT a spread..
                                              You're right. It's a total, genius, and consistent with the rules.
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                                              • MilfDriller
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 11-23-08
                                                • 10186

                                                #128
                                                It would be a more valid 'challenge' if he were playing to 105 wins at -110 on the 200. Nonetheless, I'm glad he's doing it.
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                                                • MrMonkey
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 11-09-08
                                                  • 2278

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                                  when RW said winning 50% or more, he was referring to spreads and totals, ONLY.. ncaab, ncaaf, nba, and nfl.. NOT nhl.. nhl is all ml stuff. 5 ov -145 is NOT a spread..

                                                  as the official grader of this contest, this is considered cheating and scamming.. from here on, it's all sides and totals of all major sports.. so pls delete those 3 nhl totals and we shall start from scratch.

                                                  Thank You,

                                                  Nicky.
                                                  Nickay get lost! So your saying the NHL isn't a real league? The NHL is a legit betting tool! Playing in Jarry Park isn't the big league! Nickay you are annoying but I like you! People must get an instant migraine when talking to you on the phone!
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                                                  • Nicky Santoro
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 04-08-08
                                                    • 16103

                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                                    You're right. It's a total, genius, and consistent with the rules.
                                                    you're wrong, big guy.. it's considered a ml..

                                                    it's not a straight total.. it's fukkin -145..
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                                                    • Nicky Santoro
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 04-08-08
                                                      • 16103

                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by MrMonkey
                                                      Nickay get lost! So your saying the NHL isn't a real league? The NHL is a legit betting tool! Playing in Jarry Park isn't the big league! Nickay you are annoying but I like you! People must get an instant migraine when talking to you on the phone!
                                                      you have no idea what you are talking about. pls keep the gambling topics to a minimum and keep talking about good italian restaurants in montreal and rusty staub and the old jarry park. at least i admit, that you are pretty knowledgeable at, but not gambling.
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                                                      • MonkeyF0cker
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 06-12-07
                                                        • 12144

                                                        #132
                                                        LOL. I've heard it all now. Why is it listed under the total column on Rebatewager then, Nicky?
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                                                        • 1st and Ten
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 11-13-09
                                                          • 5131

                                                          #133
                                                          Nickay-C O O L O U T- Allow NHL Totals.
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                                                          • Nicky Santoro
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 04-08-08
                                                            • 16103

                                                            #134
                                                            Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                                            LOL. I've heard it all now. Why is it listed under the total column on Rebatewager then, Nicky?
                                                            stop playing dumb.. you're trying to scam poor RW who were nice enough to offer you this.. why not then let me bet into you into even money and i'll bet the nhl total board, ok?? i figured you wouldn't.. as the offiicial grader, i do NOT allow NHL totals.. they are not real spreads. RW said spreads, we stay with spreads.. not 5 ov-150... lol

                                                            tenner,

                                                            NO NHL TOTALS. it's cheating..
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                                                            • 1st and Ten
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 11-13-09
                                                              • 5131

                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by onthewhat
                                                              I will grade this, let me know
                                                              Nicky is grading this. Don't ask again.
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                                                              • durito
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 07-03-06
                                                                • 13173

                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by MilfDriller
                                                                No, durito, you're simply being your usual self... you're trying to be a cowardly ass.

                                                                Why not let the man play money lines at -200 and beyond? I know this is what you would do.
                                                                This contest and it's lack of clear rules has nothing to do with your inability to grasp the most basic of sports gambling fundamentals.
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                                                                • 1st and Ten
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 11-13-09
                                                                  • 5131

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by Nicky Santoro

                                                                  stop playing dumb.. you're trying to scam poor RW who were nice enough to offer you this.. why not then let me bet into you into even money and i'll bet the nhl total board, ok?? i figured you wouldn't.. as the offiicial grader, i do NOT allow NHL totals.. they are not real spreads. RW said spreads, we stay with spreads.. not 5 ov-150... lol

                                                                  tenner,

                                                                  NO NHL TOTALS. it's cheating..
                                                                  I'm no genius...but I respectfully disagree...The disparity in NHL Totals is namely due to a relatively small distribution of scoring in comparison to the wider total market, in no way suggesting they are related. If a NHL total is a Moneyline then answer this NICKAY.!. I just placed a wager on Detroit +105 ---what did I just do?
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                                                                  • Nicky Santoro
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 04-08-08
                                                                    • 16103

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by 1st and Ten
                                                                    If a NHL total is a Moneyline then answer this NICKAY.!. I just placed a wager on Detroit +105 ---what did I just do?
                                                                    it means you have a less than 50% chance of winning it.. if you however bet a 5.5 un -145 in this contest and you are not laying juice as the rules here, you now have about a 55% chance of winning it..

                                                                    now is this fair playing only games that have a 55% chance of winning them and all you have to do is win 50.1%???

                                                                    NO, it's not fair.. it's scamming..
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                                                                    • durito
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 07-03-06
                                                                      • 13173

                                                                      #139
                                                                      All bets have payout odds.

                                                                      Is -3 +105 on an NFL game a money line bet because it's not -110/-110? Of course not, it's still a spread.

                                                                      Which doesn't say NHL totals are fair for this contest, but RebateWager is supposed to be a bookmaker, they should know at least something about gambling so as to offer a fair contest. Now in their defense, most other bookmakers don't know a god damn thing either.
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                                                                      • MonkeyF0cker
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 06-12-07
                                                                        • 12144

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by RebateWager
                                                                        MF,
                                                                        For a guy that's never used our service you have a really strong negative opinion of our product so to prove your theory lets play a game. Major US sports. Sides and totals only. 200 picks over 60 days. You pick over 50% winners we will give you 1,000 cash. No strings attached. Just post your picks in this thread and it's free money if you can finish over 50%.
                                                                        These are the rules we agreed to, Nicky. You don't get to come in and make up your own rules along the way. Stop acting like a fukkin jealous two-year old baby. You either grade my plays correctly and stop thinking you have a say in an agreement that YOU HAVE NO PART IN or get lost and mind your own fukkin business. I will be posting my plays for whoever takes the reigns and grades them correctly.
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