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  • Matty K
    SBR Rookie
    • 05-07-07
    • 1

    #1
    Post Up vs Agent
    Hi,

    I was wondering if somebody could please explain to me the difference between gamblers that bet "Post-Up" and gamblers that bet thourgh an "Agent".

    It is my understanding that "post-up" means you give money to the sportsbook, they hold it for you, and whatever your balance is that is the maximum you are allowed to wager.

    Betting through an "agent" means that the gambler never gives money to the sportsbook directly but rather to an intermediary. Then, if the player wins the agent pays the player, but if he loses the agent sends the funds lost by the player to the sportsbook. In exchange for being a middleman the "agent" gets a small cut of the profits.

    I can definitely see how this would be an advantage to the player, since he doesn't have to go through the hassle of transferring large sums of money to the sportsbook, or having large sums of money transferred to him.

    What I don't understand is how the reward outweighs the risk for the sportsbook. Having players bet through an agent allows them to cater to extremely large bettors, but what happens if the bettor never pays the agent if he loses, or the agent does not transmit the losing player's funds and instead keeps it for himself? Also, it seems like this is a major risk from the sportsbook because it could break laws of the country where the agent is located, if gambling is not legal in that country.

    Which books deals most in "credit" vs "post-up".
    And should I be concerned that as a post-up player my funds may be at risk if I choose to play at a book that has a large "credit" customer base?

    Thanks.
  • SBR_John
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-12-05
    • 16471

    #2
    It is my understanding that "post-up" means you give money to the sportsbook, they hold it for you, and whatever your balance is that is the maximum you are allowed to wager.
    Yes except all sportsbooks have posted max limits. So you cant bet the balance of your account but you can bet up to the limit. Just like playing blackjack in a casino. Each table has a max limit per bet no matter how much money you got in your pocket.

    In exchange for being a middleman the "agent" gets a small cut of the profits.
    Most of these "agents" are exbookmakers. They know the player and they pay and collect. They get a large slice, not a small one. I'd guess 50% or more.

    What I don't understand is how the reward outweighs the risk for the sportsbook. Having players bet through an agent allows them to cater to extremely large bettors, but what happens if the bettor never pays the agent if he loses, or the agent does not transmit the losing player's funds and instead keeps it for himself?
    The agent is on the hook for paying no matter what. Doesnt matter if his players welch he still must pay. If the player doesnt pay thats between him and his agent. The agent can also determine the limits for each player.

    Actually in this climate books that deal credit are in better shape than straight post up books.

    I dont want to get into naming the large credit books. They dont really appreciate that. But I will tell you that BoDog, WSEX and Intertops off the top of my head do not have credit.
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    • LT Profits
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 10-27-06
      • 90963

      #3
      Matty,

      You won't get an answer to this in a public forum, as books that do use agents do not want it known by the masses (right Pinnacle?).
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      • raiders72002
        SBR MVP
        • 03-06-07
        • 3368

        #4
        I'd guess 50% or more.
        Those days are gone. Use to be that way.
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