Kyrie Irving is demanding a trade from the Nets.
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budwiserSBR MVP
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stevenashModerator
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#107They've been my choice for the past season and a half.
I have just one concerning question, is Middleton past his prime?
I keep waiting for KM to return to form and I'm still not seeing it.
I love the dude, for five consecutive seasons he consistently scored twenty a game, and for the the past five seasons his playoff numbers were even 20% better that his regular season.
One of the best SF's the NBA has seen in the past half decade.
I can't think of a discouraging word to say about the dude.Comment -
budwiserSBR MVP
- 11-22-11
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#108yeah khris class guy all the way...not over the hill imo, question on his knee
In the 3 1/2 years he was here…the Nets were 82-61 in 143 games with Kyrie Irving and 77-58 in 135 games without Kyrie Irving.Comment -
Goat MilkBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#109They've been my choice for the past season and a half.
I have just one concerning question, is Middleton past his prime?
I keep waiting for KM to return to form and I'm still not seeing it.
I love the dude, for five consecutive seasons he consistently scored twenty a game, and for the the past five seasons his playoff numbers were even 20% better that his regular season.
One of the best SF's the NBA has seen in the past half decade.
I can't think of a discouraging word to say about the dude.Cause Sleep is the Cousin of DeathComment -
stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#110Two different animals but I see your point, and I can't disagree.
One's a shooting forward, the other a PG.
Both rock solid at their position, difference is it's a PG league now, you can win without a SF, it's very difficult to win without a quality PG.
What I like the most about the Bucks is they know how to go out and get those ancillary bench guys.
Like a Joe Ingles for instance.Comment -
budwiserSBR MVP
- 11-22-11
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#111holiday a defender, middleton a shooter, totally different players as kevin nash said imo. holiday can't shoot perimeter, middleton can't defend
that's what makes the bux tho, they plan on each other's strengths beautifullyComment -
IBetYouSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-03-15
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#112They've been my choice for the past season and a half.
I have just one concerning question, is Middleton past his prime?
I keep waiting for KM to return to form and I'm still not seeing it.
I love the dude, for five consecutive seasons he consistently scored twenty a game, and for the the past five seasons his playoff numbers were even 20% better that his regular season.
One of the best SF's the NBA has seen in the past half decade.
I can't think of a discouraging word to say about the dude.Comment -
Goat MilkBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 03-24-10
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#113
Holiday is the reason the Bucks won that ring. They tried to go with Bledsoe and Middleton and Giannis for years and never got it done. Holiday shut down Chris Paul and Devin Booker when it mattered most and made a ton of plays in the finals.Cause Sleep is the Cousin of DeathComment -
play4winSBR MVP
- 06-23-11
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#114is there a prop on dallas not making the playoffsComment -
budwiserSBR MVP
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#115Holiday has hit plenty of big 3s in his career. He's not just a defender. His career offensive stats are better than Middelton's, by a mile. He's averaged over 7 assists many full seasons in his career and he'll drop close to 20 most seasons. Middleton's highest ppg for a season is 20.9. He's never been an elite offensive force or player in his career. Meanwhile Holiday has been the number 1 option before. That's not even bringing up the fact that he's the best perimeter defender in the world that we've seen since maybe Kobe Bryant or Kawhi Leonard.
Holiday is the reason the Bucks won that ring. They tried to go with Bledsoe and Middleton and Giannis for years and never got it done. Holiday shut down Chris Paul and Devin Booker when it mattered most and made a ton of plays in the finals.
Holiday has never been a 3 pt shooter he has a flat shot he's a driver
Holiday great steals against paul yes ate his lunchComment -
budwiserSBR MVP
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#117
now he has a guy he can screen for, kyrie as the ballhandler and luka making picks for him and rolling
the issue is their defense is shot, they have no defense nowComment -
budwiserSBR MVP
- 11-22-11
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#118people say, well the nets had to give up kyrie because kyrie is a headcase.
kryie is not a headcase, he's a great player. but i'm thankful for the trade.
you say why.
it comes down to ben simmons. ben simmons is the reason kyrie got traded. he was supposed to anchor the defense and provide size. the guy is 6'10" 240 and was an all star. instead, they are too short and too light. they had no choice but to deal kyrie not because of kyrie but because the team is too small. it's sad, really
that said, they got a 6'6" guy in dinwiddie who even though is not good defensively he has length, and he can score. he's been with the team before. and they got dfs who can start to heal that big fat cut/wound in the nets at the forward spot that simmons is abondoning so he can flirt with playing and collect his $35 million this year
hopefully one more trade to put them into contention
i'll say it again, now is the time to load up on nets futures, because it is low risk high reward. people don't understand what is going on, because the don't follow the nets closelyComment -
kingdomSBR Posting Legend
- 07-25-10
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#119it's always been this way with the mavs. dirk carried them so long. they were decent at hiring coaches who could win with less talent. but player drafts and trade...not so much. luka is in a tough spot. may win one ring like dirk or none like barkley. luka would be huge as a laker in the future, but for winning, he would have to be a celtic. celtics make good trades and draft good players. if luka left dallas he would win in boston for sure.Comment -
kingdomSBR Posting Legend
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#120
to this point he gets little credit for the rings with gsw. he wanted to prove himself and build a team like lebron did. but it didn't work. lebron did it 3 times. he's got a lotta haters, but that is sick.Comment -
IBetYouSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-03-15
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#121it's always been this way with the mavs. dirk carried them so long. they were decent at hiring coaches who could win with less talent. but player drafts and trade...not so much. luka is in a tough spot. may win one ring like dirk or none like barkley. luka would be huge as a laker in the future, but for winning, he would have to be a celtic. celtics make good trades and draft good players. if luka left dallas he would win in boston for sure.Comment -
IBetYouSBR Hall of Famer
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#122Bucks have the best GM... Jon Horst makes one brilliant move after another... Lopez, Holiday, Portis, Allen, Tucker/ Mathews, Ingles... just doesn't miss!Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
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#123Bucks don't have closer super star. They will fall short again come playoff time. Missing a dependable clutch shooter in the end of games when it's close in other words. A go to man.Comment -
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kingdomSBR Posting Legend
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#125i rarely agree with jibby. but he is right on this one. as far as the trade i have no idea how kyrie helps the mavs. when i was watching the bottom of the screen i expected to see clippers. revenge against lebron and forming a big 3. this trade hurts the mavs. i wonder if this was cuban or the gm. if the gm, he needs to be fired. unless lebron is gonna end his career in dallas lolComment -
kingdomSBR Posting Legend
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#126Comment -
budwiserSBR MVP
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#127middleton is the bux clutch shooter to end the game. no question about it.Comment -
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#129all kinds of stuff going on.
kd reportedly unsure of the nets direction. obviously if he gets traded that's the complete end of the title hopes. but i don't think it happen. but, everyone supposedly waiting on that.
raptors supposedly on the block but they got ridiculous demands. 3 first rounders for og you gotta be kidding me they refused that. rumor they will wait until the last minute
what a circus. ends tomorrow 3pmComment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
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#130i rarely agree with jibby. but he is right on this one. as far as the trade i have no idea how kyrie helps the mavs. when i was watching the bottom of the screen i expected to see clippers. revenge against lebron and forming a big 3. this trade hurts the mavs. i wonder if this was cuban or the gm. if the gm, he needs to be fired. unless lebron is gonna end his career in dallas lolComment -
budwiserSBR MVP
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#131gonna be interesting to see kyrie try to beat the clippers tonight without luka, not used to playing with his teammates, no dfs no dinwiddieComment -
budwiserSBR MVP
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#132Initial reaction with kyrie on the mavs is this dude is smallest on the court
Welcome to today's nbaComment -
budwiserSBR MVP
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#133Yeah irving is too small
Dallas now has same issue nets had. Too small.Comment -
budwiserSBR MVP
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#134Mavs experiment fails kyrie gets less than he gets from nets
Nets offered 3 year max $50 mil 4th based on title, kyrie offended he wanted 4 years guaranteed no incentive.
He's too small.for $50 mil a yearComment -
budwiserSBR MVP
- 11-22-11
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#135Durant traded wow.
Well there goes my nets futures. Low risk high reward, never expected durant to be moved
Team is a joke now.Comment -
bjb7223SBR Posting Legend
- 11-03-12
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#140Brooklyn spoke to a few teams about Ben Simmons after the Kyrie trade, per
@IanBegley
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