Novak Djokovic gets medical pass to play in Australian Open

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  • Mac4Lyfe
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    • 01-04-09
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    #316
    Originally posted by Pinocchio
    Is this real? Federer does not know that being vaccinated does not change the likelihood of contracting the virus? Unreal. I guess that's why there are so many infections these days everywhere... people get vaccinated and think they can't get it (and stop using masks & practicing physical distancing), in reality they can get it just the same, except it won't hurt them the same, if they do.
    Wrong and wrong. Being vaccinated reduces your chance of contracting Covid and you are better protected of getting it over someone not vaccinated. Is it foolproof? No. But it does work.
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    • Mac4Lyfe
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      • 01-04-09
      • 48371

      #317
      Originally posted by pavyracer
      You can't force someone to get vaccinated for a cold. This is getting stupid now. Australians are going to regret this.
      Who's forcing him to get vaccinated? It's his choice but choices have consequences. If a restaurant requires customers to show a vaccine card, they have the right to not serve you. Who the fukk does he think he is to tell Aussies how to run their country? Fukk him.
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      • Mac4Lyfe
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        • 01-04-09
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        #318
        Originally posted by pavyracer
        Australia is behaving like Nazi Germany and is a very bad look for the country right now.
        Are you serious???
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        • The Kraken
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          • 12-25-11
          • 28918

          #319
          I work in healthcare and am mandated to g et the vaccine or will lose my job

          Im being told I have a choice

          Get the booster and keep my job. Or refuse and lose my livelihood.

          For many, there is no choice. We are being forced to take vaccine/booster to put food on the table for our families.

          Mandates are fukked up.

          Mac, answer me this. Is America any better off than Nigeria when comparing covid deaths per 100 000?
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          • Mac4Lyfe
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            • 01-04-09
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            #320
            Originally posted by Demonata
            Yeah jibby. If I was him I would just leave that shithole communist country. Shouldn't even bless them with his presence.
            Yeah, maybe if he wore a "Ball is Life", tshirt, with a GB hat, gold chain and a fukking pinkie ring, they would let him in the country.


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            • JIBBBY
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 12-10-09
              • 83686

              #321
              Losing respect for the Aussie's and tennis tourney's in general now. Sad state of affairs going on.

              Novak would test negative today and still can't play and would remain locked down. It all makes no sense.


              This new Covid variant is nothing more then an average flu bug now also.
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              • Demonata
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                • 07-12-11
                • 25829

                #322
                Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                Yeah, maybe if he wore a "Ball is Life", tshirt, with a GB hat, gold chain and a fukking pinkie ring, they would let him in the country.


                Cool pic!
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                • Mac4Lyfe
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                  • 01-04-09
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                  #323
                  Originally posted by thomorino
                  Nadal's is very far to the left politically, it doesn't surprise me that he criticized Djokavic for not getting vaccinated even though there is no medical reason anyone healthy in their 30s who has had covid needs the vaccine.
                  .
                  There has been thousands of 30 year olds who have died from Covid. I have friends in Brazil in the medical field and at one point they were burying 20 to 40 year old young people by the hundreds each week. It was very, very bad. Even folks who previously had covid. Everyone needs to get vaccinated. It's not debatable.
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                  • Mac4Lyfe
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                    • 01-04-09
                    • 48371

                    #324
                    Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                    Opti

                    Freedom isn't bestowed upon you by the Government, it's a birth right from God.

                    You worship Government under the Trojan horse of health, safety or community...but the ONLY truth about Government is that it can ONLY take away your rights and your life, it cannot give them to you.

                    You are misguided...you have skipped past the Enlightenent philosophy and right to Mao, its in your writings, the breif explainations you give in defense of the acts of Australia....and you don't even see it.
                    Do you drive without insurance or a drivers license? Do you not wear a seatbelt? Do you have medical insurance? Did you go to school without your shots? Your birth right ain't worth shit in the US. We have rules that EVERYONE must follow.
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                    • Optional
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                      • 06-10-10
                      • 61359

                      #325
                      Originally posted by beefcake

                      I read an article recently about that very same issue with immigrants in detention for 8 years.Was on a national newspaper here in the states.For all I know it was the same guy youre talking about.Man that is pretty fkd up him having to wait that long.
                      Nah, he has been an Australian citizen for about 15 years now. But it really is a common story. It used to be a lot worse with offshore detention centres and prison camps out in the desert.

                      Govt argument is that the policy has virtually stopped the rickety boats coming weekly from Indonesia and thousands would die trying the trip each year whilst people smugglers made millions. As no one will pay them anymore. So the only boat arrivals are truly desperate people usually.

                      I don't know how I feel about it. What it was 15 years ago was pretty inhumane, but I think it has morphed into an ok system now. Most people only stay and fight as long as 8 years because they are fed, housed, educated, medically looked after for free and better than where they came from. They can all choose to go home and I don't think there are many holed up long term who can show any genuine reason it's dangerous to do that.



                      Imagine if there was a policy in the USA to put every illegal immigrant up in a hotel for as many years as they chose to keep fighting your legal system?

                      People would not be saying it was a "nazi" system I don't think
                      Last edited by Optional; 01-08-22, 12:26 PM.
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                      • thomorino
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                        • 06-01-17
                        • 45842

                        #326
                        Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                        There has been thousands of 30 year olds who have died from Covid. I have friends in Brazil in the medical field and at one point they were burying 20 to 40 year old young people by the hundreds each week. It was very, very bad. Even folks who previously had covid. Everyone needs to get vaccinated. It's not debatable.
                        You missed the second part of what I said, I said healthy in their 30s and people that have natural immunity because they have had covid.
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                        • Mac4Lyfe
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                          #327
                          Originally posted by The Kraken
                          I work in healthcare and am mandated to g et the vaccine or will lose my jobIm being told I have a choice Get the booster and keep my job. Or refuse and lose my livelihood. For many, there is no choice. We are being forced to take vaccine/booster to put food on the table for our families.Mandates are fukked up.
                          Mac, answer me this. Is America any better off than Nigeria when comparing covid deaths per 100 000?
                          There's plenty of employers that do not demand vaccination. You do have a choice.

                          I have no problem with a company that requires their employees to get vaccinated just like companies that drug test. It's a liability issue for many. You don't like it, go somewhere else.

                          I do believe in mandates. They are necessary because people are too stupid and irresponsible. My kids got all kinds of vaccines in order to go to school. I'm glad they require it because I wouldn't want them to catch shit from so many nasty ass people. Get your shots. Stop being stupid.

                          I have no idea what Nigeria looks like. It's probably not comparable because Americans are one of the fattest people on earth. We have to vaccinate all these porkers.
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                          • thomorino
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                            • 06-01-17
                            • 45842

                            #328
                            Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                            There's plenty of employers that do not demand vaccination. You do have a choice.

                            I have no problem with a company that requires their employees to get vaccinated just like companies that drug test. It's a liability issue for many. You don't like it, go somewhere else.

                            I do believe in mandates. They are necessary because people are too stupid and irresponsible. My kids got all kinds of vaccines in order to go to school. I'm glad they require it because I wouldn't want them to catch shit from so many nasty ass people. Get your shots. Stop being stupid.

                            I have no idea what Nigeria looks like. It's probably not comparable because Americans are one of the fattest people on earth. We have to vaccinate all these porkers.
                            Mandates are absurd, and many people have had covid before too and don't need the vaccine.
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                            • Mac4Lyfe
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                              #329
                              Originally posted by Optional
                              Imagine if there was a policy in the USA to put every illegal immigrant up in a hotel for as many years as they chose to keep fighting your legal system?People would not be saying it was a "nazi" system I don't think
                              Americans would be pissed that we were spending money on them.
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                              • The Kraken
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                                • 12-25-11
                                • 28918

                                #330
                                Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                There's plenty of employers that do not demand vaccination. You do have a choice.

                                I have no problem with a company that requires their employees to get vaccinated just like companies that drug test. It's a liability issue for many. You don't like it, go somewhere else.

                                I do believe in mandates. They are necessary because people are too stupid and irresponsible. My kids got all kinds of vaccines in order to go to school. I'm glad they require it because I wouldn't want them to catch shit from so many nasty ass people. Get your shots. Stop being stupid.

                                I have no idea what Nigeria looks like. It's probably not comparable because Americans are one of the fattest people on earth. We have to vaccinate all these porkers.
                                ofc its comparable. I understand there are differences but that doesnt mean we cant extrapolate some info from the comparison. Yes, America is obese. But Nigeria is poor and has a relatively poor medical system. Nigeria is on the lower end of vaccination rates, we are on the higher end.

                                Yes, the choice is I obey the mandate and keep my job, or I don't take the booster and stop feeding my kids. You call that a choice? If so, theres nothing really left to talk about.

                                I've been a nurse almost 20 years but its ok to mandate the vaccine for me because there are plenty of other jobs that dont? Guess I'll go work for an airline. Nope. Maybe a big tech company and make decent money as an entry level employee. Nope. All mandates.

                                How far are you willing to go in the name of public safety? Im all for doing things for the greater good but there has to be a line and no one should be forced to take a vaccine or medicine.

                                Where does it end? Mandatory estrogen shots for all men because male violence is through the roof? How about mandatory blood pressure medicine and statins because it saves money for the whole system if you dont have a heart attack.

                                When is enough enough Mac?
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                                • MOBIL19
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                                  • 07-31-20
                                  • 1014

                                  #331
                                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                  Losing respect for the Aussie's and tennis tourney's in general now. Sad state of affairs going on.

                                  Novak would test negative today and still can't play and would remain locked down. It all makes no sense.


                                  This new Covid variant is nothing more then an average flu bug now also.
                                  Has anyone discussed the possibility of (a) Novak's PCR positive test (mid-December) being a fake, or (b) getting infected on purpose just to get the medical exemption?

                                  (a) - Novak's health is probably too much of a concern to do (b) but...

                                  I personally know a few people who intentionally got infected just so that they wouldn't have to be vaccinated. Young, productive people with jobs who despise the government mandates as much as Novak does.

                                  Except they are nobodies and he's trying to make history.
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                                  • pavyracer
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                                    • 04-12-07
                                    • 82723

                                    #332
                                    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                    Who's forcing him to get vaccinated? It's his choice but choices have consequences. If a restaurant requires customers to show a vaccine card, they have the right to not serve you. Who the fukk does he think he is to tell Aussies how to run their country? Fukk him.
                                    I believe he has health reasons. He is gluten intolerant and gets sick if he eats it and no one knows what's in the vaccine that will compromise his health. Australia is acting like Nazis. They can test him every day and if he tests positive while being on isolation then he forfeits his match. Same think happens in NFL. You test positive you can't play regardless of vaccination status. Aaron Rodgers and Kirk Cousins missed games for that reason.
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                                    • Mac4Lyfe
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                                      • 01-04-09
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                                      #333
                                      Originally posted by thomorino
                                      You missed the second part of what I said, I said healthy in their 30s and people that have natural immunity because they have had covid.
                                      Healthy 30 year olds have died from Covid the 2nd time around. Your risk of death actually goes up. If you already had Covid, you definitely should get vaxxed. That's the science.


                                      COVID-19 survivors have an increased risk of death 12 months post infection

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                                      • thomorino
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                                        • 06-01-17
                                        • 45842

                                        #334
                                        Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                        Healthy 30 year olds have died from Covid the 2nd time around. Your risk of death actually goes up. If you already had Covid, you definitely should get vaxxed. That's the science.


                                        COVID-19 survivors have an increased risk of death 12 months post infection
                                        No that's not the science, people who have had covid have natural immunity against the virus because they have the antibodies. Nothing is one hundred percent, including vaccines, but natural immunity is as strong as the protection offered by many of the vaccines.
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                                        • Mac4Lyfe
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                                          • 01-04-09
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                                          #335
                                          Originally posted by The Kraken
                                          ofc its comparable. I understand there are differences but that doesnt mean we cant extrapolate some info from the comparison. Yes, America is obese. But Nigeria is poor and has a relatively poor medical system. Nigeria is on the lower end of vaccination rates, we are on the higher end.
                                          Like I said, I have no idea what's happening in Nigeria. Are more people dying there?
                                          Yes, the choice is I obey the mandate and keep my job, or I don't take the booster and stop feeding my kids. You call that a choice? If so, theres nothing really left to talk about.

                                          There are hundreds of hospitals and assisted living providers in the US that do not require vaccination. I know several here in Houston. You could easily provide home care on your own. Plenty of opportunities to work for yourself in healthcare. If you are so hell bent on not getting the shot. But, why wouldn't you get the shots? Do you really care about your patients?

                                          I've been a nurse almost 20 years but its ok to mandate the vaccine for me because there are plenty of other jobs that dont? Guess I'll go work for an airline. Nope. Maybe a big tech company and make decent money as an entry level employee. Nope. All mandates.

                                          Don't you have to wear a seatbelt to drive a car? This isn't rocket science. Either don't drive or wear your seatbelt. Don't go to a restaurant that demands vaccine cards and don't work for a company that requires the shot. You have plenty of choices. But you fail to realize that your choice to not get the shot has a direct impact on the people you interact with.
                                          How far are you willing to go in the name of public safety? Im all for doing things for the greater good but there has to be a line and no one should be forced to take a vaccine or medicine.
                                          Why not? You don't think kids should be vaccinated for measles, mumps, rubella, polio, etc.? You don't think countries should require visitors to have booster shots before entering their country? I had to take a shitload of shots before going to the Philippines. You don't like it, don't go. What about mental health. You don't think some people should be forced to take crazy pills? There is no line. Either comply or go somewhere else. This freedom bullshit is bullshit. Your freedom is fukking it up for everyone else. Get in line or go somewhere else. Woah is me, we are forcing people to do what is best for the common good. How horrible. LOL
                                          Where does it end? Mandatory estrogen shots for all men because male violence is through the roof? How about mandatory blood pressure medicine and statins because it saves money for the whole system if you dont have a heart attack.
                                          Some men might need to be forced to take estrogen. Some fat people may need to be forced to diet. I have no problem forcing people to do the right thing.
                                          When is enough enough Mac?
                                          Answers in red above...
                                          It will never be enough until we can live with covid. I think that happens once these variants like Omicron have mostly mild symptoms and we treat covid like the flu. That won't happen until hospitalizations and deaths go to near zero. Unfortunately, that means more people will get very sick and more people will die.
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                                          • Wrongside
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-26-15
                                            • 3579

                                            #336
                                            Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                            Healthy 30 year olds have died from Covid the 2nd time around. Your risk of death actually goes up. If you already had Covid, you definitely should get vaxxed. That's the science.
                                            COVID-19 survivors have an increased risk of death 12 months post infection
                                            At least send some links with your crappy theories, Mac....My word...

                                            Keep holding on to whatever you are holding on to here...let it go...
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                                            • Mac4Lyfe
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                                              • 01-04-09
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                                              #337
                                              I was at a HS basketball game last night and the announcer kept telling people to wear their masks or they would be escorted out. I was at the Rockets game last week in the first row. Masks were not required but the people sitting courtside (which is in front of the 1st row) had to wear a mask. Go figure. When in Rome, you do what the Romans require. If you want to be a dick about it, go somewhere else.

                                              I had a Christmas party and my wife's cousin showed up with covid, runny nose, coughing, red eyes. WTF. I put her fine ass out back poolside. People are stupid. They will knowingly show up sick. You have to have rules to protect the dumb.
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                                              • Mac4Lyfe
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                                                • 01-04-09
                                                • 48371

                                                #338
                                                Originally posted by Wrongside
                                                At least send some links with your crappy theories, Mac....My word...Keep holding on to whatever you are holding on to here...let it go...
                                                Google is your friend. I've posted numerous links on this site. I'm not in the convincing business. If you don't believe it then you're right. If you do, you're right to. I'm not about being right or wrong. You do you. I do not care if you get the shot or not. It is your choice. But you are a dumb ass if you don't think the vaccine works. you are very deluded if you think masks, distance do not work. Don't be misled. Look at the wealthy. What are they doing? Trump has already had 2 boosters. Stop being stupid.
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                                                • USCPHILLYGUY
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                                                  • 12-15-12
                                                  • 21745

                                                  #339
                                                  Macker who TF is in that pic you posted? Definitely wasn’t you
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                                                  • shari91
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                                                    • 02-23-10
                                                    • 32661

                                                    #340
                                                    Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
                                                    Macker who TF is in that pic you posted? Definitely wasn’t you
                                                    That’s that loon Demoncancelled.
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                                                    • Mac4Lyfe
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                                                      • 01-04-09
                                                      • 48371

                                                      #341
                                                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                      I believe he has health reasons. He is gluten intolerant and gets sick if he eats it and no one knows what's in the vaccine that will compromise his health. Australia is acting like Nazis. They can test him every day and if he tests positive while being on isolation then he forfeits his match. Same think happens in NFL. You test positive you can't play regardless of vaccination status. Aaron Rodgers and Kirk Cousins missed games for that reason.
                                                      Who the fukk does Joker think he is to question a country? WTF? Follow the rules or go somewhere else to play. Trying to equate this to Nazi Germany is an affront to all the Jews who had to face that regime. It's an appalling comparison.

                                                      The vaccines are all gluten free. The ingredients are very well known. Moderna has been working on these vaccines for over a decade.

                                                      The Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine is made of the following ingredients:
                                                      • mRNA – Like the Pfizer BioNTech vaccine, Moderna’s also uses mRNA technology to build antibodies against COVID-19.

                                                      • Lipids – The Moderna vaccine also requires lipids to help deliver the mRNA to the cells.
                                                        • SM-102
                                                        • 1,2-dimyristoyl-rac-glycero3-methoxypolyethylene glycol-2000 [PEG2000-DMG]
                                                        • cholesterol
                                                        • 1,2-distearoyl-snglycero-3-phosphocholine [DSPC]

                                                      The remaining ingredients (below), including acids, acid stabilizers, salt and sugar all work together to maintain the stability of the vaccine after it’s produced.
                                                      • Acids
                                                        • Acetic acid

                                                      • Acid Stabilizers
                                                        • Tromethamine & Tromethamine hydrochloride

                                                      • Salts
                                                        • Sodium acetate

                                                      • Sugar
                                                        • Sucrose
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                                                      • Demonata
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                                                        • 07-12-11
                                                        • 25829

                                                        #342
                                                        Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
                                                        Macker who TF is in that pic you posted? Definitely wasn’t you
                                                        He keeps a picture of me because he's in love with me.
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                                                        • Demonata
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                                                          • 07-12-11
                                                          • 25829

                                                          #343
                                                          Originally posted by shari91
                                                          That’s that loon Demoncancelled.
                                                          You are the loony aussie. Djokovic sends his love.
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                                                          • Mac4Lyfe
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                                                            • 01-04-09
                                                            • 48371

                                                            #344
                                                            Originally posted by thomorino
                                                            No that's not the science, people who have had covid have natural immunity against the virus because they have the antibodies. Nothing is one hundred percent, including vaccines, but natural immunity is as strong as the protection offered by many of the vaccines.
                                                            Believe what you want to believe. Do your research but that is not what people are experiencing here in Houston. I know several healthy people who have died and have almost died the 2nd time around with Covid. I know of NO ONE that was relatively healthy that has died or almost died after being vaccinated. I have a pretty big sample size too. Of course it could be isolated cases but you are fooling yourself if you think you are safe because you had Covid before.

                                                            a simple call to your local emergency room could give you all the answers you need to know.
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                                                            • Mac4Lyfe
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                                                              • 01-04-09
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                                                              #345
                                                              Originally posted by Demonata
                                                              You are the loony aussie. Djokovic sends his love.
                                                              You nor Joker can enter Australia. They would laugh at your ass at immigration wearing that outfit.

                                                              They don't take clowns.


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                                                              • fried cheese
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                                                                • 09-17-13
                                                                • 4461

                                                                #346
                                                                Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                                Some men might need to be forced to take estrogen. Some fat people may need to be forced to diet. I have no problem forcing people to do the right thing.
                                                                its no wonder the government can so easily take away all our freedom. probably only a tiny percentage of americans even believe in free speech now.
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                                                                • Pinocchio
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                                                                  • 06-26-11
                                                                  • 569

                                                                  #347


                                                                  Is this for real?

                                                                  Best part at 1:20.
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                                                                  • beefcake
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                                                                    • 11-26-09
                                                                    • 14029

                                                                    #348
                                                                    Originally posted by MOBIL19
                                                                    Has anyone discussed the possibility of (a) Novak's PCR positive test (mid-December) being a fake, or (b) getting infected on purpose just to get the medical exemption?

                                                                    (a) - Novak's health is probably too much of a concern to do (b) but...

                                                                    I personally know a few people who intentionally got infected just so that they wouldn't have to be vaccinated. Young, productive people with jobs who despise the government mandates as much as Novak does.

                                                                    Except they are nobodies and he's trying to make history.
                                                                    Well if either of those are the case hes even a larger Dikk than I thought..But anything is possible I guess.
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                                                                    • beefcake
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                                                                      • 11-26-09
                                                                      • 14029

                                                                      #349
                                                                      Originally posted by shari91
                                                                      Like me and that American dude who was really good but just really shit... Sam maybe???

                                                                      That guy with all the potential and he'd crap out round 1

                                                                      Piece of shit in my bank account he was
                                                                      Lol you talkin about good ole Sam Querrey? Hes almost out of the top 100 and be wanking off at challlengers soon to build that ranking back up..
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                                                                      • fried cheese
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                                                                        • 09-17-13
                                                                        • 4461

                                                                        #350
                                                                        Originally posted by MOBIL19
                                                                        Has anyone discussed the possibility of (a) Novak's PCR positive test (mid-December) being a fake, or (b) getting infected on purpose just to get the medical exemption?

                                                                        (a) - Novak's health is probably too much of a concern to do (b) but...

                                                                        I personally know a few people who intentionally got infected just so that they wouldn't have to be vaccinated. Young, productive people with jobs who despise the government mandates as much as Novak does.

                                                                        Except they are nobodies and he's trying to make history.
                                                                        why would he fake a pcr test when he could just fake a vaccination card?
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