The Best Thing That I Saw Today...

hubie69 · 09-17-21, 12:35 PM

That's incredible KVB. Love seeing stuff like this

vitterd · 09-17-21, 12:45 PM

Awesome

jjgold · 09-17-21, 12:47 PM

Great Find

johnnyvegas13 · 09-17-21, 12:57 PM

Aaaawwwww

Art Vandelay · 09-17-21, 01:02 PM

Great stuff - Wish more players would go the extra mile!

stevenash · 09-17-21, 01:03 PM

Thanks bud.
That's a great pull.

Everybody says Kimbrel is fantastic like that.

You know, you can make an easy case for him and the Hall.
He's only 33, big if, if he stays healthy he'll reach 500 career saves.
Only two relievers have more than 500 saves and their both in the Hall.

jjgold · 09-17-21, 03:39 PM

KiDBaZkiT · 09-17-21, 04:05 PM

Stud.

lakerboy · 09-17-21, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

Thanks bud.
That's a great pull.

Everybody says Kimbrel is fantastic like that.

You know, you can make an easy case for him and the Hall.
He's only 33, big if, if he stays healthy he'll reach 500 career saves.
Only two relievers have more than 500 saves and their both in the Hall.

Hey Steve what is your opinion of Tom Henke? He was pretty damn lights out for a good time up here in Toronto.

stevenash · 09-17-21, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Hey Steve what is your opinion of Tom Henke? He was pretty damn lights out for a good time up here in Toronto.

I've lived my entire life in the northeast.
Born in Jersey, lived here in Ct. smack dab in between NYC and Boston for the past 20 years.
I've seen more AL East games than most fans have.
Trust me on this.

The best way I'd describe Henke is "rock steady year in, year out"
He didn't put up the ridiculous save numbers every year that (mid 40's) like Mo and Trevor Hoffman did, shit, Mo saved 50 games twice, Henke only pitched 12 seasons, but he consistently saved 30 games plus every season.
That's why I say he was rock solid, year in and year out.

My lists (databases) go back only 25 years from when Atlanta won their only WS, and the Yankees started their insane dynasty run, all the way to the present.

Know how that all started?
I got tired of defending the "pitching wins" and "good pitching beats good hitting" in that debate, so I started researching the past 25 years of World Series champions and lo and behold, 19 of the past 25 champions all had dominant pitching, more so than hitting.
Except for the last 'super team' the 114 win 1998 Yankees, they had dominant everything.
Next thing you know, after about a week of researching the past 25 champions, I have enough notes to write a book, which I have started but it's such a pain in the ass it may never be completed.

But I digress, I am the King of digression after all, brevity was never my forte (don't ya know?)

Any-hoo this is how I classify the closers of the past 25 years (so I'm excluding guys like Eck and Goose)
There were two and only two elite, that being Mo and Trevor Hoffman.
I'm aware Lee Smith is a Hall of Famer also and should be considered 'elite', but so is Mike Mussina a Hall of Famer, was he elite?

The next tier down begins and ends with Lee Smith, who Kimbrel will surpass in the next four years if he stays healthy.

Than you can start talking about your Billy Wagner's and Joe Nathan's and your Troy Percival's and John Wetteland's, etc. etc.
Remember Wetteland? The old Expos and one year Yankee closer.
Mo was his set up man that one year. Mo actually was a spot starter/long reliever as a rookie and was only mediocre at that, took his famous one pitch to the ninth inning and to the Hall of Fame after the Yankees discovered Mo's true calling.

I thought F-Rod was overrated and especially John Franco.
He pitched 21 years to put up his numbers and he'd walk so many batters before he'd finally close out a game.

Henke goes in the severe underrated group along with Jonathan Papelbon, Jeff Reardon and Randy Myers.

CappinTerp · 09-17-21, 07:03 PM

That was very nice to see !!!

unde0087 · 09-17-21, 07:15 PM

lakerboy · 09-17-21, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

I've lived my entire life in the northeast.
Born in Jersey, lived here in Ct. smack dab in between NYC and Boston for the past 20 years.
I've seen more AL East games than most fans have.
Trust me on this.

The best way I'd describe Henke is "rock steady year in, year out"
He didn't put up the ridiculous save numbers every year that (mid 40's) like Mo and Trevor Hoffman did, shit, Mo saved 50 games twice, Henke only pitched 12 seasons, but he consistently saved 30 games plus every season.
That's why I say he was rock solid, year in and year out.

My lists (databases) go back only 25 years from when Atlanta won their only WS, and the Yankees started their insane dynasty run, all the way to the present.

Know how that all started?
I got tired of defending the "pitching wins" and "good pitching beats good hitting" in that debate, so I started researching the past 25 years of World Series champions and lo and behold, 19 of the past 25 champions all had dominant pitching, more so than hitting.
Except for the last 'super team' the 114 win 1998 Yankees, they had dominant everything.
Next thing you know, after about a week of researching the past 25 champions, I have enough notes to write a book, which I have started but it's such a pain in the ass it may never be completed.

But I digress, I am the King of digression after all, brevity was never my forte (don't ya know?)

Any-hoo this is how I classify the closers of the past 25 years (so I'm excluding guys like Eck and Goose)
There were two and only two elite, that being Mo and Trevor Hoffman.
I'm aware Lee Smith is a Hall of Famer also and should be considered 'elite', but so is Mike Mussina a Hall of Famer, was he elite?

The next tier down begins and ends with Lee Smith, who Kimbrel will surpass in the next four years if he stays healthy.

Than you can start talking about your Billy Wagner's and Joe Nathan's and your Troy Percival's and John Wetteland's, etc. etc.
Remember Wetteland? The old Expos and one year Yankee closer.
Mo was his set up man that one year. Mo actually was a spot starter/long reliever as a rookie and was only mediocre at that, took his famous one pitch to the ninth inning and to the Hall of Fame after the Yankees discovered Mo's true calling.

I thought F-Rod was overrated and especially John Franco.
He pitched 21 years to put up his numbers and he'd walk so many batters before he'd finally close out a game.

Henke goes in the severe underrated group along with Jonathan Papelbon, Jeff Reardon and Randy Myers.

Great post.

Franco was awful. Krod overrated as well.