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  • JIBBBY
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 12-10-09
    • 83691

    #36
    50,000 of the 100,000 Corona deaths were already sick people on their death beds way before even getting the virus!!

    Skewed numbers!!!! Fake news and numbers.. I'm not buying into the 100k Corona deaths. BS!!!!
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    • SBR_Guest_Pro
      SBR MVP
      • 02-10-15
      • 3955

      #37
      Originally posted by 2daBank
      False.
      Correct. much lower than 5%
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      • d2bets
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 08-10-05
        • 39990

        #38
        Originally posted by JIBBBY
        50,000 of the 100,000 Corona deaths were already sick people on their death beds way before even getting the virus!!

        Skewed numbers!!!! Fake news and numbers.. I'm not buying into the 100k Corona deaths. BS!!!!
        YTD 125k more deaths this year than last year same period. How do you explain that? Clearly indicates corona is undercounted, not overcounted. Yes, many were" sick" but doesn't mean they would have died over these months without corona.
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        • d2bets
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 08-10-05
          • 39990

          #39
          I wonder if Trump will praise Illinois/Pritzker for being the one and only state to meet all 5 of the reopening guideline criteria set out by the President's Task Force?

          As states reopen, see if they meet White House guidelines for reopening and whether their COVID-19 infection rate is increasing or not.
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          • JIBBBY
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 12-10-09
            • 83691

            #40
            Originally posted by d2bets
            YTD 125k more deaths this year than last year same period. How do you explain that? Clearly indicates corona is undercounted, not overcounted. Yes, many were" sick" but doesn't mean they would have died over these months without corona.
            Most really old and sick die from pneumonia regardless of Corona.. Sure the virus speeds up that process in the old.. Still they were probably gonna die anyway in a short period of time.. Like I said Corona attacks the old and weak and not the young!!!

            Wear a mask and social distance with the old.. Just that simple, no need to keep anything shut down any longer in regards to the economy..

            Corona is overrated!! PERIOD!!! If you're healthy and have a decent immune system you are good even if you are older.. Just that simple...

            Bring it, test your immune system I say!!!
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            • d2bets
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 08-10-05
              • 39990

              #41
              Originally posted by JIBBBY
              Most really old and sick die from pneumonia regardless of Corona.. Sure the virus speeds up that process in the old.. Still they were probably gonna die anyway in a short period of time.. Like I said Corona attacks the old and weak and not the young!!!

              Wear a mask and social distance with the old.. Just that simple, no need to keep anything shut down any longer in regards to the economy..

              Corona is overrated!! PERIOD!!! If you're healthy and have a decent immune system you are good even if you are older.. Just that simple...

              Bring it, test your immune system I say!!!
              There is some truth to that. In that case, I guess we may see a lower than normal death rate after corona (kills off the weak)?

              Are you actively trying to acquire corona?
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              • Goat Milk
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 03-24-10
                • 25850

                #42
                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                50,000 of the 100,000 Corona deaths were already sick people on their death beds way before even getting the virus!!

                Skewed numbers!!!! Fake news and numbers.. I'm not buying into the 100k Corona deaths. BS!!!!
                How the fukk do you know?

                I find it hilarious how you're a 50-yr-old man and you think you know as much as you do. Usually when you get older, you come to realization that know one really knows anything, including yourself. I see you've been living in naivity for much of your existence.
                Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                • JIBBBY
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 12-10-09
                  • 83691

                  #43
                  Originally posted by d2bets
                  There is some truth to that. In that case, I guess we may see a lower than normal death rate after corona (kills off the weak)?

                  Are you actively trying to acquire corona?
                  I'm around people and probably already had it and beat it D2.. I'm not afraid.. I'm healthy. My Immune system is stacked, don't smoke, hardly ever get sick now with the flu, can't remember the last time I had a bad flu..

                  I just keep reading all these older people then me beating Corona like Tom Hanks and the wifey, never heard about one pro athlete dying from Corona yet either..

                  It's just common sense at this point.. Chances are Corona isn't gonna kill ya..

                  Worst is you end up in the Emergency hospital trying desperately to breath even if you are unhealthy and you probably will recover anyways after treatment now..
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                  • hawkwind
                    SBR MVP
                    • 04-25-11
                    • 4043

                    #44
                    Bs fake data
                    Originally posted by jjgold
                    5% death rate usa
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                    • fried cheese
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-17-13
                      • 4461

                      #45
                      Originally posted by d2bets
                      YTD 125k more deaths this year than last year same period. How do you explain that? Clearly indicates corona is undercounted, not overcounted. Yes, many were" sick" but doesn't mean they would have died over these months without corona.
                      deaths fluctuate per year and it looks like deaths have increased every year for the past decade. 86k x 5/12 = 35.8k extra deaths over this period. so theoretically the deaths could still be over counted.

                      death stats from the cdc:

                      In 2015, a total of 2,712,630 resident deaths were registered in the United States—86,212 more deaths than in 2014

                      In 2017, a total of 2,813,503 resident deaths were registered in the United States—69,255 more deaths than in 2016
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                      • 2daBank
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-26-09
                        • 88966

                        #46
                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                        I'm around people and probably already had it and beat it D2.. I'm not afraid.. I'm healthy. My Immune system is stacked, don't smoke, hardly ever get sick now with the flu, can't remember the last time I had a bad flu..

                        I just keep reading all these older people then me beating Corona like Tom Hanks and the wifey, never heard about one pro athlete dying from Corona yet either..

                        It's just common sense at this point.. Chances are Corona isn't gonna kill ya..

                        Worst is you end up in the Emergency hospital trying desperately to breath even if you are unhealthy and you probably will recover anyways after treatment now..
                        I’m starting to rethink my stance, feels odd agreeing with you. Lol.

                        In all seriousness why can’t we feel bad for the ppl who lost loved ones yet still go on with our lives? Same way we do any other time ppl die?
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                        • BuckyOne
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-02-15
                          • 2728

                          #47
                          Look at it from the government standpoint - 90,000 less social security checks to write. A million more could die and they would be happy. Almost get to the point the of government breaking even.

                          Selfish bastards all over America trying to make money off of this.
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                          • mezmurized2
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-02-19
                            • 1232

                            #48
                            Originally posted by Mr KLC
                            I read that the average age of people that have died from this virus is higher than the average age that a human actually lives.

                            Source ...??
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                            • mezmurized2
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-02-19
                              • 1232

                              #49
                              Originally posted by SBR_Guest_Pro
                              i like how in the title you put "confirmed." Not sure it's truly confirmed
                              True.
                              100% accuracy is difficult to achieve.
                              However, according to reports that I have previously mentioned
                              with links to the sources, it appears more likely than not, that
                              the death toll from COVID-19 is probably HIGHER, not lower.

                              Given that we began April with 5,000 deaths logged, that means since April 01
                              -- when the infections and resulting deaths really began in earnest --
                              we have had almost 97,000 covid-19 deaths in only 2 months.
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                              • mezmurized2
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-02-19
                                • 1232

                                #50
                                Originally posted by d2bets
                                False. Just look at total death rate over the past few months vs. death rate during same time period last year. It's way higher.
                                True.

                                Just since April 01 (when we had ~5000 covid deaths)
                                almost 97,000 more covid deaths in less than 2 full months
                                ...in addition to all the usual deaths across the nation.
                                Thank goodness the Governors imposed restrictions so we could
                                contain the covid-19 deaths DOWN to only 101,500 and counting.
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                                • mezmurized2
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-02-19
                                  • 1232

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by SBR_Guest_Pro

                                  Originally Posted by lakerboy

                                  3 countries that did not take virus seriously enough.
                                  Brazil 26000 dead
                                  USA New York 102995 dead
                                  UK 37000 dead
                                  Almost hf of world total of 360000


                                  New York being largely the fault of President Trump being waaaaay to slow to restrict incoming flights from EUROPE carrying infected people - most of whom landed at JFK and Newark....corrected
                                  corrected
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                                  • JIBBBY
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 12-10-09
                                    • 83691

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by 2daBank
                                    I’m starting to rethink my stance, feels odd agreeing with you. Lol.

                                    In all seriousness why can’t we feel bad for the ppl who lost loved ones yet still go on with our lives? Same way we do any other time ppl die?
                                    I don't know whether to take this post of yours as a complement or dig?? ..

                                    Corona is spice.. Media pumping it up like it's the ULTIMATE killer of all humanity when it's just not..
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                                    • mezmurized2
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-02-19
                                      • 1232

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by d2bets
                                      1 out of 50 states, but 1 out of about 14 people in US live in NY. But yes, NY has more than it's share...so far! Let's see where that is at the end of the day. I bet it'll be far less than 30%
                                      Not to forget that the coronavirus on the east coast came directly from those who got infected in EUROPE (via China) ....incoming flights with INFECTED PEOPLE from EUROPE were not halted while the virus was raging there, and the number one destination for inbound flights to USA from EUROPE is JFK (NY)....After Trump finally applied a few loose restrictions on March 13, he still permitted incoming flights from EUROPE with infected passengers to JFK and Newark Liberty.
                                      It's little wonder NY became the epicenter....thanks to inaction by President Trump...
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                                      • mezmurized2
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-02-19
                                        • 1232

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by eidolon
                                        100k reported dead. Not confirmed dead from covid-19
                                        Correct.

                                        Reports from health experts say the real number is probably HIGHER, not lower for
                                        various reasons including deaths in nursing homes or private homes which never
                                        made it to the hospital, *AND* all the suspicious rise in deaths in February they
                                        could not explain before covid-19 HERE was even a thing, therefore NOT tested.
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                                        • mezmurized2
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-02-19
                                          • 1232

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                          50,000 of the 100,000 Corona deaths were already sick people on their death beds way before even getting the virus!!
                                          Source for your wild assertions...??
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                                          • mezmurized2
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-02-19
                                            • 1232

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by d2bets
                                            YTD 125k more deaths this year than last year same period. How do you explain that? Clearly indicates corona is undercounted, not overcounted. Yes, many were" sick" but doesn't mean they would have died over these months without corona.
                                            True.....and reports indicate the death count is more likely UNDERcounted.
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                                            • ThaTopMoron
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                                              • 04-30-10
                                              • 27018

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by slayer14
                                              It bastard virus
                                              meh
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                                              • ThaTopMoron
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 04-30-10
                                                • 27018

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                I heard that the average person who died from this would have lived another ten years otherwise. Source was fox news.
                                                but the virus happened so they died when they were supposed to die the end
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                                                • CWD
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 01-22-12
                                                  • 7667

                                                  #59
                                                  slayer u going 2 keep posting garbage at least spell check titles u slob

                                                  shout out 2 lakerboy another dip shit
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                                                  • mezmurized2
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-02-19
                                                    • 1232

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                    Corona is overrated!! PERIOD!!!


                                                    Hmmmm..... 97,000 deaths from covid-19 just since April 01 (2 months)
                                                    over and above the common influenza deaths and all other deaths...
                                                    That's a mean avg of 12,125 per week (since April 01)

                                                    The seasonal flu kills a mean avg of 1,357 per week (in active season)

                                                    2014 Ebola --- 2 deaths

                                                    2009 Swine Flu --- 12,469 died (over one full year)



                                                    This pandemic is averaging almost as many deaths per WEEK as the
                                                    2009 Swine Flu (H1N1) pandemic did over a full YEAR!



                                                    Yaaa...obviously it's all a nothing burger. Totally overrated.
                                                    Anyone can see that...

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                                                    • mezmurized2
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-02-19
                                                      • 1232

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                      It's just common sense at this point..
                                                      Chances are Corona isn't gonna kill ya..
                                                      Perhaps not.
                                                      But it may ultimately kill someone that YOU passed it on to
                                                      without ever being aware that you did.
                                                      ...THAT is the problem.

                                                      But, at least YOU will be fine and that's all that matters. Ph^ck everybody else.

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                                                      • mezmurized2
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 12-02-19
                                                        • 1232

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by fried cheese
                                                        deaths fluctuate per year and it looks like deaths have increased every year for the past decade. 86k x 5/12 = 35.8k extra deaths over this period. so theoretically the deaths could still be over counted.
                                                        Of course as the US population increases then the absolute number of
                                                        annual deaths is expected to rise every year -- barring any new
                                                        breakthroughs in science that might prolong life in certain med conditions.

                                                        Health authorities have reported their belief that deaths from covid-19
                                                        are more likely UNDERcounted
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                                                        • mezmurized2
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-02-19
                                                          • 1232

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                          In all seriousness why can’t we feel bad for the ppl who lost loved ones yet still go on with our lives? Same way we do any other time ppl die?
                                                          Yes.
                                                          People die. Happens every day. The living grieve then carry on.

                                                          9/11 happened. We felt bad for those who lost loved ones and carried on.
                                                          Same can be said for sending young men and women off to war zones,
                                                          or on an aircraft-carrier.
                                                          Or first-responders.
                                                          Or fire crews battling summer forest fires.
                                                          Or meat-packing plant workers.
                                                          Or health care providers.
                                                          Or even victims of violence like George Floyd in Minnesota.

                                                          We feel bad for their families, we may grieve, then we move on. As we should.

                                                          It's just waaaaay harder to stomach when, like George Floyd,
                                                          almost all these people die prematurely.
                                                          That they are denied their full natural life expectancy because of some
                                                          unusual intervention -- in the case of COVID-19 -- lack of responsible
                                                          national leadership to completely shutter the borders in a timely manner
                                                          and be prepared with testing & tracing and thus prevent the spread of a
                                                          serious contagion.
                                                          Premature deaths are gut-wrenching.


                                                          First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
                                                          Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
                                                          Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
                                                          Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
                                                          Last edited by mezmurized2; 05-28-20, 08:44 PM.
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                                                          • hawkwind
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 04-25-11
                                                            • 4043

                                                            #64
                                                            Open Everything Up Let it Run its course those that are scared can stay home the rest of us want to live our lifes and not fade away.
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                                                            • mezmurized2
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 12-02-19
                                                              • 1232

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by ThaTopMoron

                                                              but the virus happened

                                                              so they died when they were supposed to die

                                                              the end




                                                              Including beloved officer Charles Roberts, of Glen Ridge ?




                                                              Then, that logic applies to George Floyd of Minneapolis too...

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                                                              Last edited by mezmurized2; 05-28-20, 08:48 PM.
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                                                              • blackbart
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 12-04-07
                                                                • 3833

                                                                #66
                                                                the mortality rate never varies.
                                                                every year, every place, until covid.
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                                                                • JIBBBY
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 12-10-09
                                                                  • 83691

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by mezmurized2
                                                                  Perhaps not.
                                                                  But it may ultimately kill someone that YOU passed it on to
                                                                  without ever being aware that you did.
                                                                  ...THAT is the problem.

                                                                  But, at least YOU will be fine and that's all that matters. Ph^ck everybody else.

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                                                                  So be it we need a thinning of the world population.. We are over populating this planet and that's a FACT!! https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

                                                                  As ugly as that sounds I still don't think Corona is going to do the trick.

                                                                  We all have to die sometime that's just life.. Live life and love it now.. It's short.. Time fly's when you get older, days are slow when you're younger.. That kinda sucks.. I noticed that.

                                                                  That's what I know from living 52 years on this pretty blue planet we all live on!!

                                                                  Cheers fellas on SBR as you are alive today!! Live it and be thankful and be kind to others!! That's your best bet!!!
                                                                  Last edited by JIBBBY; 05-28-20, 08:54 PM.
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                                                                  • Enkhbat
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 04-18-11
                                                                    • 3145

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Maybe coronavirus was intended to increase tensions between China and USA. We all know it is not that bad of a virus.
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                                                                    • d2bets
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 08-10-05
                                                                      • 39990

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                      So be it we need a thinning of the world population.. We are over populating this planet and that's a FACT!! https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

                                                                      As ugly as that sounds I still don't think Corona is going to do the trick.

                                                                      We all have to die sometime that's just life.. Live life and love it now.. It's short.. Time fly's when you get older, days are slow when you're younger.. That kinda sucks.. I noticed that.

                                                                      That's what I know from living 52 years on this pretty blue planet we all live on!!

                                                                      Cheers fellas on SBR as you are alive today!! Live it and be thankful and be kind to others!! That's your best bet!!!
                                                                      You sound like a Chinese Commie.
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                                                                      • lakerboy
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 04-02-09
                                                                        • 94368

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by CWD
                                                                        slayer u going 2 keep posting garbage at least spell check titles u slob

                                                                        shout out 2 lakerboy another dip shit
                                                                        I thank Donald Trump for helping you become pro. Enjoy years of trash warriors basketball.
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