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  • zam77
    SBR MVP
    • 11-03-10
    • 3586

    #106
    Originally posted by milwaukee mike
    hang in there zammer

    odds of my cpa business surviving are around 0% but i was selling anyway... poor timing of course like most things in my life
    Thank milky... sorry to hear about your firm, i'm sure you'll figure out best way to make something out of nothing. If I had to guess you are probably financially better off than 90% here.
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    • zam77
      SBR MVP
      • 11-03-10
      • 3586

      #107
      Originally posted by lonegambler23
      zammer perfect time to become A pro bettor once sports resumes
      Last time I thought I could do that, which was'nt really my goal... more careless addiction, I learned my lesson the hard way and lost way more money than I'm comfortable talking about. All for fun now, will never expect gambling to make me money again... EVER
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      • milwaukee mike
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 08-22-07
        • 26914

        #108
        Originally posted by zam77
        Thank milky... sorry to hear about your firm, i'm sure you'll figure out best way to make something out of nothing. If I had to guess you are probably financially better off than 90% here.
        yeah i'm ok other than i had way too much in some almost bankrupt hotels and amc theater bonds... buried on that stuff but we can live pretty cheaply, probably have enough saved for the rest of our lives (assuming we don't go venezuela/hyper inflation at some point).

        business went from being worth 250 to probably being worth about 100, as you know a lot of people are hurting a lot worse so we can't complain too loudly?

        one of my clients is a corporate catering business, hope both of you survive and come out ok for you and the employees

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        • goduke
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 02-17-10
          • 11580

          #109
          Originally posted by milwaukee mike
          yeah i'm ok other than i had way too much in some almost bankrupt hotels and amc theater bonds... buried on that stuff but we can live pretty cheaply, probably have enough saved for the rest of our lives (assuming we don't go venezuela/hyper inflation at some point).

          business went from being worth 250 to probably being worth about 100, as you know a lot of people are hurting a lot worse so we can't complain too loudly?

          one of my clients is a corporate catering business, hope both of you survive and come out ok for you and the employees

          Taxes and audits still need to be done. Obviously there’s an extension for both but I wouldn’t think your cpa business took that large of a hit.
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          • milwaukee mike
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 08-22-07
            • 26914

            #110
            Originally posted by goduke
            Taxes and audits still need to be done. Obviously there’s an extension for both but I wouldn’t think your cpa business took that large of a hit.
            yes there are still individual taxes to be done, but nobody wants to buy that stuff... the saleable portion of a cpa firm are the business clients, unfortunately 2 of my 3 largest clients are probably disappearing

            i don't do any audits, just compilations (lowest level) and tax work
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            • pilebuck13
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 05-15-15
              • 17916

              #111
              Where are you located perfect time to launder some cash
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              • zam77
                SBR MVP
                • 11-03-10
                • 3586

                #112
                Welp... looks like my business interruption insurance seems to be useless. Just got off phone with adjustor saying my claim is denied.. $0 coverage. What a mess this is becoming. Only going to get worse. Lawsuits that will last for years I’m sure if I ever see a cent from them. They literally just withdrew $580 from my account today to pay my monthly premium...lol. Have paid well into 6 figures for commercial insurance in my 18 years in business
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                • zam77
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-03-10
                  • 3586

                  #113
                  Food service industry is over. Why would anyone want to start a new food service business ever again after this? You’d be a fukin idiot to invest one cent into it.
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                  • RudyRuetigger
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 08-24-10
                    • 65086

                    #114
                    i cant read 113 posts zammer

                    did you get any money from ppp or eidl

                    can i get a summary on this thread?
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                    • milwaukee mike
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 08-22-07
                      • 26914

                      #115
                      Originally posted by zam77
                      Food service industry is over. Why would anyone want to start a new food service business ever again after this? You’d be a fukin idiot to invest one cent into it.
                      yeah sorry to hear... as you know it's a pretty tough business even when times are good

                      same with other retail/hotels... when my biggest clients aren't even paying their rent they sure as heck can't afford their employees, accountants, or anyone else
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                      • RudyRuetigger
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 08-24-10
                        • 65086

                        #116
                        Originally posted by zam77
                        Welp... looks like my business interruption insurance seems to be useless. Just got off phone with adjustor saying my claim is denied.. $0 coverage. What a mess this is becoming. Only going to get worse. Lawsuits that will last for years I’m sure if I ever see a cent from them. They literally just withdrew $580 from my account today to pay my monthly premium...lol. Have paid well into 6 figures for commercial insurance in my 18 years in business
                        okay, i read the last page

                        bro i have paid half a million dollars in insurance without getting anything from it
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                        • zam77
                          SBR MVP
                          • 11-03-10
                          • 3586

                          #117
                          Commercial insurance raping business... right in the ass.
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                          • milwaukee mike
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 08-22-07
                            • 26914

                            #118
                            times like this prove that insurance money is only supposed to go in 1 direction

                            i'm right there with rudy... 20k/year in health insurance, and another 10k or so in business insurance/errors and omissions... add in all the homeowners/car insurance... never got shit out of any of it
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                            • msutter
                              SBR MVP
                              • 03-14-07
                              • 1162

                              #119
                              Originally posted by zam77
                              Welp... looks like my business interruption insurance seems to be useless. Just got off phone with adjustor saying my claim is denied.. $0 coverage. What a mess this is becoming. Only going to get worse. Lawsuits that will last for years I’m sure if I ever see a cent from them. They literally just withdrew $580 from my account today to pay my monthly premium...lol. Have paid well into 6 figures for commercial insurance in my 18 years in business
                              Definitely take those fuks to court. This is the type of shit that business interruption insurance is designed for. They just can't afford to pay everyone or they'd likely go bankrupt themselves
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                              • milwaukee mike
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 08-22-07
                                • 26914

                                #120
                                Originally posted by msutter
                                Definitely take those fuks to court. This is the type of shit that business interruption insurance is designed for. They just can't afford to pay everyone or they'd likely go bankrupt themselves
                                a lot of insurance companies are being sued right now over business interruption insurance

                                zammer what does your policy say about viruses or pandemics? if they aren't mentioned that's still better than excluding them
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                                • zam77
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-03-10
                                  • 3586

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                  a lot of insurance companies are being sued right now over business interruption insurance

                                  zammer what does your policy say about viruses or pandemics? if they aren't mentioned that's still better than excluding them
                                  I just got the letter from my insurance company outlining why they declined the claim today... about 20 pages long. Perused through it for 5 minutes and realized right away that I will undoubtedly need to get my attorney involved in the process if I want to get any compensation out of them. Whatever, at the moment, I'm just putting it on the back burner until all the dust settles in this arena a bit more. The way I see there simply isn't going to be any answers or accountability for a while so I don't need to start spending money on legal fees until I'm comfortable the results will be to my benefit.

                                  I foresee class actions will be an option for many in the food industry at some point... like I said, for now just going to wait for the dust to settle.
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                                  • RudyRuetigger
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 08-24-10
                                    • 65086

                                    #122
                                    I have to pay a terrorism insurance fee

                                    Insurances always just fukkin screw you
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                                    • zam77
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-03-10
                                      • 3586

                                      #123
                                      As for business... a major client of mine who spends about 2k a week on a standing order with us is resuming business this Wednesday.... HUGE. Also got an order coming up on May 7th to provide 800 boxed lunches for nurses at big hospital in my area. Never done that many boxed lunches before... hahahaha going to be a bitch but not so bad without too much else going on right now. Doing them at $7.50 a box so a 6k ticket... can't complain about that!

                                      Also, as for the SBA loans, all that money has been deposited already into my account. The more I think about the more I can't believe how much money they are dishing out. I now have an additional $160,000 cushion to get me through this. $30k of which will be forgiven and another $130k that's a 30 year loan at 3.75%. It's actually unbelievable how easy it was for me to get this money to be honest.
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                                      • zam77
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-03-10
                                        • 3586

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                        I have to pay a terrorism insurance fee

                                        Insurances always just fukkin screw you
                                        Yeah after 9/11 they started adding that as an option to policies. I have it too, but I think it's optional... Idk, but shit now that you mention, the Chinese virus could be considered an act of bio-terrorism so if you have that insurance well?
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                                        • RudyRuetigger
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 08-24-10
                                          • 65086

                                          #125
                                          weird, for some reason i thought you were desserts or a bakery

                                          3.75% is pretty amazing and id prefer to go that route in general

                                          how or why did you get 160k though but only 30k needs repaid?
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                                          • zam77
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 11-03-10
                                            • 3586

                                            #126
                                            If businesses that have been forced to closed through this are on top of there shit, no reason they can't get through this. Plenty are idiots. It's really amazing how some people think they can own a business but have no sense of their doing. A lot of those types will be gone for good.
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                                            • zam77
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 11-03-10
                                              • 3586

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                              weird, for some reason i thought you were desserts or a bakery

                                              3.75% is pretty amazing and id prefer to go that route in general

                                              how or why did you get 160k though but only 30k needs repaid?
                                              The 30k is the PPP loan by itself... basically the one that all small businesses are trying to get because if you use it for payroll, rent and utilities it will be forgiven. So I got that one separate from the 130K loan which I applied for directly through SBA as a disaster relief loan. I mean it's still part of the money that fed put into the CARES act but it's more of a traditional loan through SBA that has to be paid back.

                                              The thing that's crazy is how easy it was to get... Normally for a business of my size to try and get a loan through SBA for this amount would require a lot more information than what the EIDL loan required... A lot more.

                                              And no... full blown caterer. Do everything but just in corporate realm... no weddings and not too much weekend large event type shit.
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                                              • RudyRuetigger
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 08-24-10
                                                • 65086

                                                #128
                                                Originally posted by zam77
                                                The 30k is the PPP loan by itself... basically the one that all small businesses are trying to get because if you use it for payroll, rent and utilities it will be forgiven. So I got that one separate from the 130K loan which I applied for directly through SBA as a disaster relief loan. I mean it's still part of the money that fed put into the CARES act but it's more of a traditional loan through SBA that has to be paid back.

                                                The thing that's crazy is how easy it was to get... Normally for a business of my size to try and get a loan through SBA for this amount would require a lot more information than what the EIDL loan required... A lot more.

                                                And no... full blown caterer. Do everything but just in corporate realm... no weddings and not too much weekend large event type shit.
                                                is that loan guaranteed to be 3.75%?

                                                i pay a 3.75% business loan because i guarantee to keep that much money in my personal savings (local bank)...but i get no fukkin interest on my savings account there
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                                                • zam77
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 11-03-10
                                                  • 3586

                                                  #129
                                                  It's guaranteed 3.75% for life of the loan... and I don't have to start paying it back for 24 months... and it's 30 years. My payment will by $641/month once I start to pay on it. Taking it was obviously a no brainer.
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                                                  • RudyRuetigger
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 08-24-10
                                                    • 65086

                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by zam77
                                                    It's guaranteed 3.75% for life of the loan... and I don't have to start paying it back for 24 months... and it's 30 years. My payment will by $641/month once I start to pay on it. Taking it was obviously a no brainer.
                                                    your loan is guaranteed 3.75%....i meant in general for everyone is the sba loan 3.75%?
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                                                    • zam77
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-03-10
                                                      • 3586

                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                      your loan is guaranteed 3.75%....i meant in general for everyone is the sba loan 3.75%?
                                                      Yes, or lower if you're a non-profit. Actually mistaken, I have 12 months til payments start

                                                      2. The EIDL loans offer up to $2 million for working capital needs such as fixed debt and payroll. You apply for the EIDL loan on the SBA website www.sba.gov/disaster. The interest rate is 3.75% for businesses and 2.75% for nonprofits with a 30-year term possible. There is an automatic one-year deferment on repayment so the first payment is not due for a full year, although interest begins to accrue at time of disbursement.
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                                                      • RudyRuetigger
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 08-24-10
                                                        • 65086

                                                        #132
                                                        Oh I did apply for EIDL but only 10k

                                                        so I shouldve done whatever I want?

                                                        fukk
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                                                        • Foxx
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 05-25-11
                                                          • 5825

                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by zam77
                                                          As for business... a major client of mine who spends about 2k a week on a standing order with us is resuming business this Wednesday.... HUGE. Also got an order coming up on May 7th to provide 800 boxed lunches for nurses at big hospital in my area. Never done that many boxed lunches before... hahahaha going to be a bitch but not so bad without too much else going on right now. Doing them at $7.50 a box so a 6k ticket... can't complain about that!
                                                          Good to see the wheels are turning again Zam. Best of luck man.
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                                                          • zam77
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 11-03-10
                                                            • 3586

                                                            #134
                                                            Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                            Oh I did apply for EIDL but only 10k

                                                            so I shouldve done whatever I want?

                                                            fukk
                                                            have you heard back? I applied for 10k too, but when you go through the steps (which was all done through an email that took me to a portal where info needed to be entered) once you get into this portal it shows you the amount you're approved for and you choose to accept the amount you want... it starts at 10k and mine went up to $130k so I took the full amount.

                                                            Did you get an email from them yet?
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                                                            • RudyRuetigger
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 08-24-10
                                                              • 65086

                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by zam77
                                                              have you heard back? I applied for 10k too, but when you go through the steps (which was all done through an email that took me to a portal where info needed to be entered) once you get into this portal it shows you the amount you're approved for and you choose to accept the amount you want... it starts at 10k and mine went up to $130k so I took the full amount.

                                                              Did you get an email from them yet?
                                                              what the fukk

                                                              now im pissed off at most of my family

                                                              i had my sister fill it out and said i want to see it all before you finish

                                                              she says all of a sudden she clicked and it was finished, submitted

                                                              thats all i fukkin know?

                                                              what a goddamn joke
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                                                              • zam77
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 11-03-10
                                                                • 3586

                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                                what the fukk

                                                                now im pissed off at most of my family

                                                                i had my sister fill it out and said i want to see it all before you finish

                                                                she says all of a sudden she clicked and it was finished, submitted

                                                                thats all i fukkin know?

                                                                what a goddamn joke
                                                                Rule 1... never trust a woman with anything money related.

                                                                Maybe call them and see whats what
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                                                                • RudyRuetigger
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 08-24-10
                                                                  • 65086

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by zam77
                                                                  Rule 1... never trust a woman with anything money related.

                                                                  Maybe call them and see whats what
                                                                  yea ill have to

                                                                  thanks

                                                                  fukk
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                                                                  • BigdaddyQH
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 07-13-09
                                                                    • 19530

                                                                    #138
                                                                    The major problem with ANY civil court appearance is finding an available court date. Thanks to COVID-19, Civil proceedures are pushed back at least a year, and will only get worse. This is an advantage for the Insurance Companies (gosh, there is a shocker) who will rake in the interest for this period of time. This is like a person accused of rape being allowed to continue to rape his victim while he awaits trial. You gentlemen are being screwed and are really powerless to do anything about it in the foreseeable future.
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                                                                    • zam77
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 11-03-10
                                                                      • 3586

                                                                      #139
                                                                      There is protesting going down in suburb my biz is in. Hoping no looters show up take all my chicken and produce
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