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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #106
    all the scammers love these threads

    we are watching closely
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    • exstatman
      SBR MVP
      • 11-02-06
      • 1060

      #107
      I haven't seen anyone post what the score would need to be to have a 750-1 price offered, we know for sure a 2 point deficit with less than 2:00 left is not it. Thinning even 35-0 going to the 4th quarter wouldn't get to 750-1.
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      • Optional
        Administrator
        • 06-10-10
        • 61722

        #108
        Originally posted by KVB
        How do they plan on doing that?
        Ideally the book would have to remit the funds they won on the losing side to some sort of fund if they want to cancel bets.

        Most of the time the losing side won't have any bets if the odds are out of whack though.
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        • fried cheese
          SBR MVP
          • 09-17-13
          • 4461

          #109
          Originally posted by Shifty
          FWIW, At the end of the Cowboys-Giants game Sunday night Fanduel briefly put up 360-1 on the Giants after Dallas recovered the on sides kick with seconds to go. Pretty stupid of them trying to skim a few more dollars at the end of a game. The mistake could have been avoided if they didn't put up those crazy odds in the first place.
          so can you argue that is an obviously bad line then? no way teams fumble a kneel down for a td return or give up hail mary around 1 in 400 attempts.
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          • fried cheese
            SBR MVP
            • 09-17-13
            • 4461

            #110
            Originally posted by exstatman
            I haven't seen anyone post what the score would need to be to have a 750-1 price offered, we know for sure a 2 point deficit with less than 2:00 left is not it. Thinning even 35-0 going to the 4th quarter wouldn't get to 750-1.
            its not that high. the chargers were only up by 15 with over 7 mins left and espn had the odds of the chargers winning at 99.9. so thats 999 to 1 with no juice and the odds might be higher since 99.9 is the highest percentage they can use.
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            • Joey Vigs
              SBR MVP
              • 06-10-18
              • 1425

              #111
              Originally posted by exstatman
              I haven't seen anyone post what the score would need to be to have a 750-1 price offered, we know for sure a 2 point deficit with less than 2:00 left is not it. Thinning even 35-0 going to the 4th quarter wouldn't get to 750-1.
              There is no scenario where a team would be 750-1 live to win. If a game is 49-0 in the 4th quarter they don’t hang a live line. Any score that would merit a team being 750-1 would not have a line hung.
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              • Optional
                Administrator
                • 06-10-10
                • 61722

                #112
                Originally posted by Joey Vigs

                There is no scenario where a team would be 750-1 live to win. If a game is 49-0 in the 4th quarter they don’t hang a live line. Any score that would merit a team being 750-1 would not have a line hung.
                This bet was made with 1 minute to go.

                The book kept live betting open longer than most. Right to the end.

                Odds would always go to max at some point in that situation. Like one side almost always ends up at 1000/1 on Betfair live.

                If they hung 360/1 on Giants it appears they are greedy for sucker money to me.
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                • fried cheese
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-17-13
                  • 4461

                  #113
                  Originally posted by Joey Vigs
                  There is no scenario where a team would be 750-1 live to win. If a game is 49-0 in the 4th quarter they don’t hang a live line. Any score that would merit a team being 750-1 would not have a line hung.
                  college football has odds higher than that for the regular game line. arkansas-pinebluff was 2500-1 last week.
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                  • Joey Vigs
                    SBR MVP
                    • 06-10-18
                    • 1425

                    #114
                    Originally posted by fried cheese
                    college football has odds higher than that for the regular game line. arkansas-pinebluff was 2500-1 last week.
                    I’m not talking pre game. I’m talking live. They wouldn’t hang a line of +75000 on a game. Anyngame that called for a line like that. Wouldn’t have one hung.
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                    • exstatman
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-02-06
                      • 1060

                      #115
                      Originally posted by fried cheese
                      its not that high. the chargers were only up by 15 with over 7 mins left and espn had the odds of the chargers winning at 99.9. so thats 999 to 1 with no juice and the odds might be higher since 99.9 is the highest percentage they can use.
                      When ESPN sets odds, we may all be in trouble. Plus, a side was was 1000-1 to win would have about 400-1 on the other side. It would take probably closer ot 3000-1 to get 750-1 on the other side.
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                      • Greenline
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 10-05-17
                        • 167

                        #116
                        Crap spot for FD to be put in when the story for super rec players is going to be remembered as FD snaked out of a bet.
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                        • Joey Vigs
                          SBR MVP
                          • 06-10-18
                          • 1425

                          #117
                          ESPN percentages to win are a joke. I’ve seen 99.9 to win, lose. I can’t remember the game but it happened not to long ago. I think the Yankees Red Sox Sunday night game that Chapman blew the Yankees were 99.9 in the 9th inning.
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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #118
                            mistakes happen all the time, no technology is perfect

                            Rules are rules
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                            • fried cheese
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-17-13
                              • 4461

                              #119
                              Originally posted by exstatman
                              When ESPN sets odds, we may all be in trouble. Plus, a side was was 1000-1 to win would have about 400-1 on the other side. It would take probably closer ot 3000-1 to get 750-1 on the other side.
                              doesnt matter if espn is good at setting lines or not. but if they set the line there then its not an obvious error is it?
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                              • DrunkHorseplayer
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 05-15-10
                                • 7719

                                #120
                                A book paying up rarely on an obvious error is better than the book being able to stretch the definition of "bad line" at will in order to screw bettors, which will ultimately happen. They took the bet, they should honor it and, if they want, boot the bettor; hopefully, NJ law is on the bettor's side.
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                                • BriGuy
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-06-11
                                  • 1556

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by cx89
                                  Hitting a bad line...

                                  $500 bones + 3 games in a skybox vs. Some midget named tony calling you a piece of shit and pocketing your funds.
                                  Hey, that's a typical Friday night for some members of this forum....
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                                  • clip1
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 05-06-06
                                    • 454

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by Shifty
                                    FWIW, At the end of the Cowboys-Giants game Sunday night Fanduel briefly put up 360-1 on the Giants after Dallas recovered the on sides kick with seconds to go. Pretty stupid of them trying to skim a few more dollars at the end of a game. The mistake could have been avoided if they didn't put up those crazy odds in the first place.

                                    if they keep on doing this shit it's on them

                                    they trying to milk sucker money and if it's a lose then it's fine

                                    but if it's a win it's "abviously a bad line"
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                                    • blackbox
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-28-08
                                      • 1415

                                      #123
                                      Question is there a control board that you can simply let decide this issue As in Nevada. No question as to the case. Just curious. gl to all Excuse me saw a good answer in post #6 gl guys
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                                      • The Kraken
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 12-25-11
                                        • 28918

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by Joey Vigs
                                        Aren’t you a pill head I thought I remebered reading that when I just lurked SBR

                                        And no, they don’t owe this gambler the money. Clear bad line. I’m not saying he was taking a shot, but it’s clearly a bad line. I doubt if anyone that bets at that place even knows what taking a shot is. Aren’t the lines really bad juice wise?
                                        Back to my point, when they limit sharps or deny their action they end up with squares. Squares dont know a bad line from a potato.

                                        Yet they’re held to the standard that they shouldve known this was a bad line, that they were shot taking

                                        To KVB’s point, hold the book accountable and see how often it happens.
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                                        • BigJay
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-14-12
                                          • 3485

                                          #125
                                          Two more guys made same bet. For $75 at 750/1 Leading to another news story.

                                          PR nightmare for FD and novice gamblers new to the game thinking they won’t pay now.

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                                          • KVB
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 05-29-14
                                            • 74817

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by Optional
                                            Ideally the book would have to remit the funds they won on the losing side to some sort of fund if they want to cancel bets.

                                            Most of the time the losing side won't have any bets if the odds are out of whack though.
                                            I thought about that.

                                            I suppose if you are betting live, you should just hang on to your losing ticket, and just check to see if that bet was voided.

                                            The counter will get winners and losers lining up...

                                            The could use a light up sign like an airport, showing which bets are honored and which one's not...lol.

                                            They could generate out of whack odds for both sides and take their pick. It doesn't matter. The losers aren't coming back as it stands. Only the winning bets will get refunded.
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                                            • KVB
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 05-29-14
                                              • 74817

                                              #127
                                              In my opinion, if I were a book, I'd love these idiot shot takers hanging around, they are obviously not winning long term.

                                              Online could be different here too, for sure, but in a building some drunk dumbass who sees +7500000000000 and goes for it is probably a customer you want betting in your book.

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                                              • dark star
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-04-09
                                                • 3900

                                                #128
                                                Where is that scammer Broke Landers?
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                                                • Maniac
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 04-12-11
                                                  • 667

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by blackbox
                                                  Question is there a control board that you can simply let decide this issue As in Nevada. No question as to the case. Just curious. gl to all Excuse me saw a good answer in post #6 gl guys
                                                  Yes, the New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement (DGE) and their rules (https://www.nj.gov/lps/ge/docs/Sport...egulations.pdf) state the following:

                                                  (d) A wagering operator shall not unilaterally rescind any wager pursuant tothis chapter without the prior approval of the Division

                                                  Now in this case, FanDuel's own House Rules, which would have been approved by DGE, do have the standard palpable error rule saying they can void in the case of an error.

                                                  Now in this case it look like they didn't void, but rather paid out at the "correct price" of -600, which technically doesn't actually break the DGE's own rules.

                                                  Since this case his the first major situation the DGE has had to deal with, so it will be very interesting to see exactly how they decide to rule since that will have ramifications for all NJ sportsbooks.

                                                  If they side with FD then they risk making themselves look weak and losing consumer confidence in regulated sports betting.
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                                                  • Maniac
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 04-12-11
                                                    • 667

                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by BigJay
                                                    Two more guys made same bet. For $75 at 750/1 Leading to another news story.

                                                    PR nightmare for FD and novice gamblers new to the game thinking they won’t pay now.

                                                    http://newjersey.news12.com/story/39...on-sports-bets
                                                    What is also interesting about this article is that it shows the automatic "Tax Withholding" where the books are forced to automatically remove taxes on winning bets if certain conditions are met, which appears to be the case here.
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                                                    • cincinnatikid513
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 11-23-17
                                                      • 45360

                                                      #131
                                                      some guy in vegas turned 5 dollars into a nice payday

                                                      A bettor in Las Vegas picked every game correctly in a $5 parlay card at William Hill to take home the prize of $84,565.
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                                                      • daneblazer
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                                                        • 09-14-08
                                                        • 27861

                                                        #132
                                                        Scamduel
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                                                        • The Giant
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 01-21-12
                                                          • 21480

                                                          #133
                                                          It's hard to believe this thread got four pages out of a typo.
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388179

                                                            #134
                                                            A lot of guys here will do anything for a scam because their compulsive gamblers
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                                                            • Venom72
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 10-05-16
                                                              • 2041

                                                              #135
                                                              So they didnt have to pay him shit and still offered $500 plus giants tickets?? Idiot shoulda took that in a heartbeat, now hes gonna take it to court and more than likely end up with nothing but lawyer fees and i bet if the court did decide in his favor he wouldnt get nowhere near the full $82 grand, his best bet at this point would be just hoping fanduel settles out of court to avoid all this crap
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                                                              • shocka1212
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 10-06-12
                                                                • 16788

                                                                #136
                                                                still not as bad as this....

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                                                                • rangerz2478
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                                                                  • 08-06-12
                                                                  • 1194

                                                                  #137
                                                                  He got 750-1 on a bet that should've been -600 and is going to sue them? lol.
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                                                                  • Optional
                                                                    Administrator
                                                                    • 06-10-10
                                                                    • 61722

                                                                    #138
                                                                    2 more bettors claim FanDuel won’t pay out on sports bets
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                                                                    • shocka1212
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 10-06-12
                                                                      • 16788

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Originally posted by The Giant
                                                                      It's hard to believe this thread got four pages out of a typo.
                                                                      I know how to get these pussies wet
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                                                                      • shocka1212
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 10-06-12
                                                                        • 16788

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by rangerz2478
                                                                        He got 750-1 on a bet that should've been -600 and is going to sue them? lol.
                                                                        should have been +300 or +325
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