Heard a rumor Meadowlands sports book didn't pay a Broncos live Ticket

**BigJay** · 09-18-18, 12:43 AM

Guy jumped on a bad line. Got Broncos live vs Raiders +75,000. Still trying to collect.

http://newjersey.news12.com/story/39108476/man-says-fanduel-sportsbook-wont-pay-out-large-bet

**cincinnatikid513** · 09-18-18, 12:59 AM

im sure the sportsbook like all online ones has rules page and doesnt have pay out bad lines, cmon 72-1 only down 2 points

**ans61201** · 09-18-18, 01:03 AM

Yeah this is a clown move by the guy. Should’ve taken the original offer.

**playersonly69** · 09-18-18, 01:05 AM

It was alot more than 72 to 1. It was 750 to 1 if am not mistaken.

True odds should have been like 7.5 to 1 probably

**playersonly69** · 09-18-18, 01:06 AM

The gaming board will sidev with the book but might maken them pay $1000-1500 for the ticket

**BigJay** · 09-18-18, 01:09 AM

Yeah, I was thinking $500 plus great seats to three NFL games would be a great win for a blatantly bad line on an original $100 ticket.

I’ll bet what he ultimately gets, if anything, won’t be that good.

**ans61201** · 09-18-18, 02:24 AM

Originally posted by playersonly69

It was alot more than 72 to 1. It was 750 to 1 if am not mistaken.

True odds should have been like 7.5 to 1 probably

I was on this game and hedged (original on raiders) when they got the ball to begin final drive they were +425

**fried cheese** · 09-18-18, 03:27 AM

Originally posted by cincinnatikid513

im sure the sportsbook like all online ones has rules page and doesnt have pay out bad lines, cmon 72-1 only down 2 points

they dont just get to make any rules they want when they are regulated though. i think in nevada they have to honor bad lines. maybe its different if the bet is placed with a computer instead of a person though.

**ans61201** · 09-18-18, 04:19 AM

Originally posted by fried cheese

they dont just get to make any rules they want when they are regulated though. i think in nevada they have to honor bad lines. maybe its different if the bet is placed with a computer instead of a person though.

No, pretty much same as offshore. Obvious errors house is protected. Almost every book has it written in their rules in Vegas

**cx89** · 09-18-18, 04:19 AM

Hitting a bad line...

$500 bones + 3 games in a skybox vs. Some midget named tony calling you a piece of shit and pocketing your funds.

Don't know which one I'd rather take... But hey he had to "full juice!!!"

**floridagolfer** · 09-18-18, 04:52 AM

Originally posted by ans61201

No, pretty much same as offshore. Obvious errors house is protected. Almost every book has it written in their rules in Vegas

Please define what an "obvious" error is.

That's the problem. No one ever walks away from a betting window thinking their ticket is a mistake — until this happens.

**jjgold** · 09-18-18, 05:48 AM

**moojoo** · 09-18-18, 06:20 AM

Originally posted by floridagolfer

Please define what an "obvious" error is.

That's the problem. No one ever walks away from a betting window thinking their ticket is a mistake — until this happens.

750/1 is fkn obvious error.

**Sam Odom** · 09-18-18, 07:53 AM

bad line no doubt HOWEVER really bad P.R. for an upstart biz - gambling period is seen as shady by avg joe

**jjgold** · 09-18-18, 07:56 AM

shot takers

I would throw the scumbag right out the door and video tape it as his head goes through the fukkin window

**johnnyvegas13** · 09-18-18, 10:01 AM

Clearly a bad line

bronks never that

**krk1030** · 09-18-18, 10:08 AM

Guys a clown and has no case.

**johnnyvegas13** · 09-18-18, 10:58 AM

We all know that this is standard

but I bet a lot of non gambling people will think book somehow cheated him

**jjgold** · 09-18-18, 11:00 AM

We are involved

Well Genie is

**LT Profits** · 09-18-18, 11:04 AM

Nothing shady, this was certainly an OBVIOUS line error. Guy is entitled to a refund though.

**LT Profits** · 09-18-18, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by Sam Odom

bad line no doubt HOWEVER really bad P.R. for an upstart biz - gambling period is seen as shady by avg joe

They ruled correctly though. Forgot about bad PR, it is GOOD that this went public as now people know not to take a shot at obvious line errors.

**LT Profits** · 09-18-18, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by floridagolfer

Please define what an "obvious" error is.

That's the problem. No one ever walks away from a betting window thinking their ticket is a mistake — until this happens.

If someone needs to yell you 750/1 on a two-point game is an obvious error...

**shocka1212** · 09-18-18, 11:16 AM

tremendous thread

**KVB** · 09-18-18, 11:39 AM

Consumer protections on their way.

Bottom line, by all accounts, the book should pay.

The poison of not honoring bets because of a "bad line" has spilled over from the internet world and all those internet players over the years are likely to accept it.

If a brick and mortar book took the bet, I side with Nevada laws and force it to be honored.

I'm conflicted though, because this live action blends the online rules with traditional rules.

It seems Jersey wants to be a real book, but still benefit from the online precedent that has been set about glitches and mistakes.

I'm really conflicted here. Obviously, the world is changing and this technology that has been bringing lines online for years is entering and being used in shops and books.

I just don't know, the future is clearly going to allow the book to make errors, but I'm not sure I agree with it.

They should pay the guy what they booked and then refuse to serve him again for "shot taking."

Basically give him the option to get paid but never play there again.

Does New Jersey have laws here or did they just get way ahead of themselves?

If a decision here isn't clear cut from laws on the Jersey books, then Jersey, despite all they've done, are just a bunch of hacks who have gotten ahead of themselves.

The books will win here, and reserve the right to not honor bets. Online, this was acceptable because the community in general could police decisions and determine what is "obviously a bad line."

Back in the day, in Vegas and Nevada, there was no such thing as a "bad line", not the way the use the words today, but there were shot takers, some of whom were trespassed in many places.

**jjgold** · 09-18-18, 11:41 AM

I would ban him

Genie says Big M made correct decision

**LT Profits** · 09-18-18, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by KVB

If a brick and mortar book took the bet, I side with Nevada laws and force it to be honored.

HUH? Does Las Vegas not have the same "obvious line error" clause written in its rules like online does? I know what you are saying used to be true, but I thought Vegas got in step with offshore by adding the "bad line" clause in a few years ago? ESPECIALLY books that accept in-play wagering?

**LT Profits** · 09-18-18, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by ans61201

No, pretty much same as offshore. Obvious errors house is protected. Almost every book has it written in their rules in Vegas

This is what I thought, but it conflicts with what KVB is saying.

**KVB** · 09-18-18, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by LT Profits

HUH? Does Las Vegas not have the same "obvious line error" clause written in its rules like online does? I know what you are saying used to be true, but I thought Vegas got in step with offshore by adding the "bad line" clause in a few years ago? ESPECIALLY books that accept in-play wagering?

Yeah, that was in the next sentence...

Originally posted by KVB

...If a brick and mortar book took the bet, I side with Nevada laws and force it to be honored.

I'm conflicted though, because this live action blends the online rules with traditional rules...

Live action is an issue, but when I've bet live in Nevada, it's posted that all live line bets are FINAL. Period.

I'm sure it has happened and bets were probably refunded, but I've never heard of this happening at any of the books. If it's a Will Hill line, it's bad all over the place and the Casino themselves aren't even a part of it.

It's all Will Hill at that point. I'm sure it's happened, but I've never seen or heard of it.

Maybe DraftKings should get their shit together or start supervising bets, one at a time as they get approved.

You want to be a big boy DK? You want to play with the big boys? Then cut out the bad ticks and "glitches."

There is no other way.

**jjgold** · 09-18-18, 11:53 AM

This error is laughable

Guy took a shot and he should pay a dear price for it

**KVB** · 09-18-18, 11:54 AM

If you have a bad line, announce and post that it's cancelled before the game ends.

Of course, in the example in this thread, that would have been impossible.

Online, bets should be cancelled before the game ends and books should have programs that show bad lines being bet and on their ledger live and real time.

Either protect the consumer, or not. The US will try to protect the consumer, to an extent.

**KVB** · 09-18-18, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

This error is laughable

Guy took a shot and he should pay a dear price for it

The transaction should have never been completed. The book is just as much at fault here, this isn't online.

Or is it?....

**KVB** · 09-18-18, 11:56 AM

New Jersey should fine books for selling bad lines, not punish the player.

**sweethook** · 09-18-18, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

shot takers

I would throw the scumbag right out the door and video tape it as his head goes through the fukkin window

damit man ..

**SBR Genie** · 09-18-18, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

We are involved

Well Genie is

JJ yes, we don't want shot takers in our book, take the risk and be caught later and ready to accept the future consequences or report the bad line and get rewarded. You always have the choice!