Rob Scuderi to Kings, per the local Pens beat reporter.
How you feel about that one, Davey?
Update: I am hearing 4 years, 3.4 million per season.
How you feel about that one, Davey?
Update: I am hearing 4 years, 3.4 million per season.
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Antropov signs with Atlanta Thrashers
Rechi re-signs with the Bruins.Comment -
too much money but pens have lsot 2 defenseman nowOriginally posted by element1286Comment -
Well at least kovalchuk has antropovComment -
Goligoski is going to be in the top six next year, and he is pretty good. But they are still one d-man short.Originally posted by lakerboy
Beauchemin please.
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Antropov was a pretty good signing, they didn't over pay, and he is much needed.Comment -
Originally posted by element1286
I hope i can see kovalchuk make it to the playoffs this up coming season.....but i still doubt itComment -
Originally posted by element1286
Good ol' Kings always making the blockbuster deals lolComment -
Very happy!Originally posted by element1286
1. Not forcing Hickey into a spot
2. When O'Donnell leaves next year without making a single move its Doughty/Johnson/Greene/Quincey/Scuderi/Hickey
3. Every D-man on our team not named Drew Doughty or Matt Greene just got a lot more expendable for that trade-for-a-scorer we've been looking for...
This is exactly what I wanted this offseason... a solid defenseman, be it Beauch or Scuderi. Good contact length, good age.
All that's left on my wishlist now is getting Frolov signed to an extension. I've come to terms with the fact that he may not want to stick around (I wouldn't blame him) and thus I can understand if he gets shipped... but I'd much rather just have him extended instead.
Oh, and if I'm allowed to be a little greedy, Alex Tanguay is still out there...
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You know, for a Ducks fan that saw his team build a Cup winner and perennial playoff contender the exact way the Kings are attempting to do now (sucking, drafting strong, trading veterans for assets and accumulating a large amount of young talent, and then when all the pieces are in place going out and making the big move for the guy you need (Pronger), your mocking of the Kings really doesn't make any sense at all.Originally posted by blittydeuce
Don't you remember how you got to the point you are at now? I don't remember the Ducks signing other team's free agents to massive contracts in the middle of their rebuild. They stuck to the plan and it paid off. Have you forgotten?Comment -
Honestly Dave, I think it is an awful deal. Too many years, and too much money. Scuderi is a good "defensive defensemen" but isn't really good at anything else, 3.4 million for a 5/6 is a lot of money.
The Pens were offering 4 years, 8.2 million, and I would have been upset with that deal.Comment -
It is "too much money", but a team like the Kings is going to have to overpay to get a guy like this. No one wants to come West, and no one wants to come West to play for a team like the Kings especially.Originally posted by element1286
With Doughty, Johnson, Hickey, and Quincey, the Kings have more than enough depth at offensive-defensemen. This is a really good fit.
I agree that the contract isn't the best, but the Kings most definitely have the cap space, and Defensive Defensemen O'Donnell and Greene have both flourished in their styles in our system, and I expect Scuderi to do the same.
But if you thought 2/per was bad, I can understand why you hate 3/per. To each their own.
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I can't say I disagree with any of that.Originally posted by VegasDaveComment -
I didn't hate the 2 per year, I just didn't like the four year commitment. 2 years, 5 million would have been fine by me.Originally posted by VegasDaveBut if you thought 2/per was bad, I can understand why you hate 3/per. To each their own.Comment -
Kings need offense. They will be in the bottom 10 in scoring again this year......Rumor is they are trying to steal Beachemein from us....I hope not
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Ah, got it.Originally posted by element1286
Yeah, personally I think the shelf life is a bit longer on stay at home defensemen; I don't mind the 4 years.
I also think its worth noting that on a team like the Penguins, defensive defensemen don't really work. It is such a creative team that thrives on defensemen jumping into the play, odd man rushes, etc. You don't need 6 scoring defensemen, but you at least need a guy who can put a good puck on net or make a great outlet pass.
The Kings are more of the defense-first mold. I'm not arguing that either way is better (in fact, I lean towards the fast paced style, since the lockout you can't just play shutdown D anymore to win, ask the Wild), but I do think he's a better fit for the Kings.
In any case, ask me again in three years
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Originally posted by VegasDaveAh, got it.
Yeah, personally I think the shelf life is a bit longer on stay at home defensemen; I don't mind the 4 years.
I also think its worth noting that on a team like the Penguins, defensive defensemen don't really work. It is such a creative team that thrives on defensemen jumping into the play, odd man rushes, etc. You don't need 6 scoring defensemen, but you at least need a guy who can put a good puck on net or make a great outlet pass.
The Kings are more of the defense-first mold. I'm not arguing that either way is better (in fact, I lean towards the fast paced style, since the lockout you can't just play shutdown D anymore to win, ask the Wild), but I do think he's a better fit for the Kings.
In any case, ask me again in three years
I couldn't agree more.Comment -
dave why are you so protective of your kings you should ease up a little broComment -
Not really sure what you mean. I'm just giving my opinions.Originally posted by lakerboy
If everyone else has the right to bash them, I have the right to defend them, don't I?
I'm just trying (probably pointlessly) to show people the other side of the argument. It is very easy to say "the Kings suck and always will suck" without knowing all of their players in depth, as well as their top 30 prospects.
And I'm not saying that makes me special or anything. I'm just saying, when someone says the Dodgers suck and have no pitching, don't you like to point out that Billingsley and Kershaw are two fantastic young arms, and that Wolf and Kuroda are both very reliable?
Again, don't know why I bother, people believe only what they want to believe, and no one will care about the writing on the wall or the pieces in place until it actually produces a championship team. So it goes.Comment -
For sure the kings were becoming a difficult team to play last year. But their history is sad and thats why people laugh at them and besides the last time they were any good gretzky was there. I hope they improve and i think they have some good young players but its a case of proving themselves- i mean no one will believe the clippers either but they have some pretty good talent on that rosterOriginally posted by VegasDaveComment -
Their history is very, very sad, no doubt about it.Originally posted by lakerboy
I mean to be honest, I don't understand why people that hate their team are fans of their team. I mean of course I rationalize all of our decisions, and when we make bad ones I just accept them and focus on the positives. Because isn't that what sports are for? There is enough BS to hate in life. Sports are pretty meaningless grand scheme of things, but we love them and love our teams because they help us escape from everything else.
I read all these posts on team message board where the guy hates every player on his team and hates the GM and hates everything about his team. So pick a new one!! I'm not saying I like every player or agree with every move (though of late with Lombardi I certainly have)... but if you hate the team more than you like it, just pick a new one.
So yes, I see the cup as half full... but nothing I say is that crazy. Have you heard me once say the Kings were going to compete for a cup next year or anything like that? Of course not, they still aren't there. I just like the direction they are headed, and many NHL analysts agree.Comment -
Fedotenko resigns with Penguins, 1 year 1.8 million, tremendous deal.Comment -
Canucks sign Mikael Samuelsson
Vancouver Canucks
Jul 3, 2009, 12:04 PM EDT
Samuelsson Vancouver, B.C. - Vancouver Canucks General Manager Mike Gillis announced today that the Canucks have signed right winger Mikael Samuelsson to a three-year deal. In keeping with club policy terms were not disclosed.
Samuelsson, 32, recorded 40 points (19-21-40) in 81 games last season and 10 points (5-5-10) in 23 playoff games with Detroit through to the 2009 Stanley Cup Finals. In 466 career NHL games Samuelsson has 208 points (86-122-208) and 244 penalty minutes. The Mariefred, Sweden native was a member of the 2007.08 Stanley Cup Champion Detroit Red Wings team and has produced a career total of 35 points (13-22-35) in 69 postseason games.
Samuelsson was a member of Team Sweden, winning gold at the Winter Olympics in Torino, Italy in 2006, where he recorded four points (1-3-4) in eight games.
The 6’1”, 205-lbs winger was drafted by San Jose 145th overall in the 1998 NHL Entry Draft.Comment -
That Samuelsson deal is 2.5 per year.Comment -
Originally posted by element1286
Could be a good fit in Vancouver
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He'e the type of player who fills in nicely as a tweener 2nd/3rd liner on a good team, but would be absolute garbage as a 2nd liner on a bad team.Originally posted by DwightShruteCould be a good fit in VancouverComment -
Vancouver having a nice little free agent period.Comment -
What do you think about this Smyth trade, Dave?Comment -
Kovalev to Senators, 2 years 10 million.
Beauchemin to Leafs, 3 years 11.4 million, SON OF A BITCH!Comment -
Our defense is severely depleted
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That it is.Originally posted by blittydeuceOur defense is severely depletedComment -
Leafs defense is now pretty badass, great job by Brian Burke.
If only they had a goalie.Comment -
Still talks they may go after Biron.Originally posted by element1286
Not that he's "the answer", but he's an upgrade over what they've got.Comment -
They would still need a goalie.Originally posted by VegasDave
And need to clear some cap space.Comment -
The Vancouver Canucks have announced the signing of free agent goaltender Andrew Raycroft.
Terms of the deal were not disclosed.
Raycroft, 29, spent the 2008-09 season as a member of the Colorado Avalanche where he posted a record of 12-16-0 with a 3.14 Goals-Against-Average and a .892 Save-Percentage.
In eight NHL seasons, the Belleville, Ontario native has played for three teams including the Toronto Maple Leafs and Boston Bruins who originally selected him 135th overall in the 1998 NHL Entry Draft.
In 230 career NHL games, Raycroft, has a record of 94-96-16, with six shutouts and a 2.90 GAA and .899 Save-Percentage.Comment
