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    jolmscheid
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    Anyone Using Tony Cross?

    Ok..I know it is a chase for all sports, but his record is stated to be 888-40 or something like that...just wondering if anyone has used him for an extended period of time and if it is legit?

    What are the average odds per game, etc, etc...

    Sounds too good to be true, but just thought I'd check...

    Appreciate any and all insight..

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    I actually did follow their hockey system this past year and it was 38-0 I believe on a three tiered system. I can't really speak about the other sports but the hockey was legit.

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    It it were legitimate, SOMEONE from SBR would be following it!!!!

    FWIW!!

    RUN, FORREST, RUN!!!

    I have seen Tony Cross marketed by 3 different outfits. None will respond to emails!!!

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    Thanks Bettowin...

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    Yes Ive used him since 2010. Averaged around 350% ROI last two years. This year near the 160% mark ( really good hockey season, not so good NBA and and very solid mlb so far). Several things to consider. Its a lot of work and you need to treat it like a job. You have to follow his instructions 100%. One thing I like is there is a lot of sets that are just A and B bets so these losses are usually less than 10%. Typically in a year we'll do really well in 3 sports and meh in 1 sport. I think you need a large bankroll to make it be worth the time. Bankroll management is a huge part of the equation and you have to take very seriously. Another thing I like is since 2010, I have not seen him fudge the record; he takes the loses like a man. Also you are assigned a personal advisor to email if there are any questions; so anytime I need help I'm always dealing with same person.
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    Thank you so much, Tony, for your infomercial.

    You just joined today to post this.

    Shilling ain't easy when you are peddling CRAP!!!!!

    RUN, FORREST, RUN from anything TONY CROSS PUTS HIS NAME ON!!!!

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    I've used him since Febuary of 2010 also. I've been pleased with his monthly pick service. But his NFL 101 system had 4 Big losers last year. His NHL 101/102 system was fantastic. He didn't put out a NBA system because of the strike, especially after the NFL strike caused havoc with his NFL 101 system.

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    He is at 61% ROI for the current MLB season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettowin23 View Post
    It it were legitimate, SOMEONE from SBR would be following it!!!!

    FWIW!!

    RUN, FORREST, RUN!!!

    I have seen Tony Cross marketed by 3 different outfits. None will respond to emails!!!
    In my opinion, I bet someone has posted his picks in the past. The powers that be, #1 can't stand chase systems and #2 don't want real winners, 'cause they don't make money off winning picks or systems, but only on the losers through Sportsbook's Associates Programs. I wouldn't doubt if I don't get banned or scolded for this post.

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    Thanks again, Tony. Welcome to SBR, but NO ONE IS INTERESTED IN YOUR BOGUS SYSTEMS!!!!

    3 posts and been here less than a week!!! You are a true veteran!!!

    I know SHILLING AIN'T EASY. And shilling for Sh't systems has to be simply brutal.

    Best of luck with your selling though!!!




    Quote Originally Posted by BETTOR'S EDGE View Post
    In my opinion, I bet someone has posted his picks in the past. The powers that be, #1 can't stand chase systems and #2 don't want real winners, 'cause they don't make money off winning picks or systems, but only on the losers through Sportsbook's Associates Programs. I wouldn't doubt if I don't get banned or scolded for this post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettowin23 View Post
    Thanks again, Tony. Welcome to SBR, but NO ONE IS INTERESTED IN YOUR BOGUS SYSTEMS!!!!

    3 posts and been here less than a week!!! You are a true veteran!!!

    I know SHILLING AIN'T EASY. And shilling for Sh't systems has to be simply brutal.

    Best of luck with your selling though!!!
    You probably have been burned by scammers in the past, so have I. Don't blame anyone for being sceptical. But he asked and I just told him my experience with the service over the last 2 and 1/2 years. I can post every play that he has given over that period, but I'm sure you still wouldn't believe it.

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    Been a client since the start of the NHL season and all that BETTORS EDGE has said is true and legit. Like most when I was told about this chase system I laughed at my buddy and said I want no part of it. Well almost a year later now and I am one hell of a happy guy my boy found Tony and his systems.

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    Buy TONY CROSS AND WIN AS THE SHILLS SAY YOU WILL. I have seen his picks daily for 2 years and I CANNOT TELL THAT HE WINS. I know I not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I AIN'T STUPID EITHER.

    He is vague with what is actually a play. If the in doubt games win, they were defininite plays.

    HAVE AT IT!!!!

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    I think you have Tony confused with John Morrison. Below is an older email as an example of the e mails he sends out daily....

    This was sent on August 4, 2012

    We had a 2-0 Night as both the MLB/Dodgers and CFL/Montreal win with ease.......
    *
    *
    Great Job as we are now 45-10 with a 64% ROI for the Year in MLB.
    *
    *
    We are 2-0 in the CFL......
    *
    *
    *
    Below is a*Play that just made it as a system play so we will give it a shot.* We will go at 1% only so risk will be minimal....
    *
    *
    MLB Monthly Play
    *
    Boston over Minn
    *
    Tier 1 of 2
    *
    Wager = 1%
    *
    Listed Pitcher = Buchholz
    *
    Game Time = 7:10 pm EST
    *
    *
    *Now, I ask you, how can that be any plainer of what he expects??

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    seems like everytime that NFL and college comes around CFB the touts come out like clockwork

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dux90 View Post
    seems like everytime that NFL and college comes around CFB the touts come out like clockwork
    Course, and for obvious reasons.

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    I would pay no attention to Bet To Win...

    I have been following Tony Cross for over seven years.
    If you play his Tier 3 plays then you have your own
    ATM machine.

    His claims and records are spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettowin23 View Post
    Buy TONY CROSS AND WIN AS THE SHILLS SAY YOU WILL. I have seen his picks daily for 2 years and I CANNOT TELL THAT HE WINS. I know I not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I AIN'T STUPID EITHER.

    He is vague with what is actually a play. If the in doubt games win, they were defininite plays.

    HAVE AT IT!!!!
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    I have no ties to Tony, but this is pure poppycock.
    The plays are not "vague" and "in doubt".
    The plays are crystal clear and graded as such.

    If you're going to critique at least know of which you speak.
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    [QUOTE=19th Hole;15790288]~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``
    I have no ties to Tony, but this is pure poppycock.
    The plays are not "vague" and "in doubt".
    The plays are crystal clear and graded as such.

    If you're going to critique at least know of which you speak.[/QUOTE

    There you have someone that's been a member since March of 2009 and has 4760 posts. But I'm sure he created the account over 3 years ago just for this occassion.

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    Bettowin 23, who if anyone would you suggest. Who do you have first hand knowledge of them being good or bad. If you use nobody then give us some insight into your winning stategies. Or are you just someone that finds all these type of post and runs down everybody?

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    19th Hole is right. All plays are clear and unambiguous. Records are legit and Tier 3 are golden. Bettowin is either confusing him with someone else or not aware of the facts. If he could supply a verbatim example of a Cross "vague" pick, perhaps we could better understand his lack of comprehension.

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    Tony Cross is obviously GREAT!!! So is PI Mike!! LOL Play all of Tonly Cross's picks for 30 days and then criticize me!!! You bottomfeeders do now have a clue about touts!!!!

    You want something for nothing!!!

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    Bettowin23, You still didn't answer any of my questions or Canuck's. Seems all you can do is criticize, but not really offer any proof to back up 'your' claims. Offer any proof you have of your claims and give us a chance to refute them. As far as PI Mike, I've never heard of him, so I can't intellengently say anything about him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettowin23 View Post
    Tony Cross is obviously GREAT!!! So is PI Mike!! LOL Play all of Tonly Cross's picks for 30 days and then criticize me!!! You bottomfeeders do now have a clue about touts!!!!

    You want something for nothing!!!
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    Hey BetToLose...
    Man up or GTFO...

    You throw out ambiguous generalizations and
    expect the newbies to believe you.

    Man up and post some facts.
    I am not a big believer in touts....
    and I know little about PI Mike (excepting his end
    of the world rants).....
    BUT Tony Cross delivers the goods.

    Don't let the fact that he charges for his service
    blind you to his ability to make you money.



    You wouldn't be in the service section if you were making
    money on your own.

    Good Luck going forward.
    Last edited by 19th Hole; 08-26-12 at 10:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck View Post
    19th Hole is right. All plays are clear and unambiguous. Records are legit and Tier 3 are golden. Bettowin is either confusing him with someone else or not aware of the facts. If he could supply a verbatim example of a Cross "vague" pick, perhaps we could better understand his lack of comprehension.
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    Exactly Canuck!

    BetToLose.....
    Let's see some vague and ambiguous plays given out by Tony Cross....JUST ONE!
    That's what I thought...You Can't!! Because you have no idea what you're
    talking about.

    Like I stated before... I've been following Tony for over 7 years with
    a smile on my face and a serious bankroll.

    Do yourself a favor and take a walk in the sunshine singing
    a winners tune. Play a Tier3 play and build up your self-esteem.

    We are all here to beat the man and criticise only when justified.
    I wish everyone the best...Especially BetToWin.

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    Almost always the emails are very clear. But sometimes there can be situations where there are questions. You need to read all his systems rules and qualifiers over and over because the only negative with Tony is they are not good at returning emails. So don't expect to get an email response even if its hours before a game. When in doubt don't play it.
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    Pokerisnot....
    Always have had a response....usually from someone named Rich.
    May be a different experience for other players. I can only address
    my experience.
    Good Luck.

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    All chase systems are scams. Eventually you will get crushed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonysimone View Post
    All chase systems are scams. Eventually you will get crushed
    Going on 2 and a half years for me, and not got crushed yet. Have we lost some heartbreakers? Damn right we have. But we always make it back and then some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 19th Hole View Post
    Pokerisnot....
    Always have had a response....usually from someone named Rich.
    May be a different experience for other players. I can only address
    my experience.
    Good Luck.
    Same here, Rich always returns my emails.

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    I've been using Tony Cross since last NFL system and the picks are legit. It does get dicey following up a loss and risking 5 or 10 units but the guy is legit.

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    new to system

    Quote Originally Posted by cmaulsby View Post
    I've been using Tony Cross since last NFL system and the picks are legit. It does get dicey following up a loss and risking 5 or 10 units but the guy is legit.
    I recently bought T.Cross's system and for the NFL this is my first week trying the system. I also am trying his CFL system and have a game today.

    I am a bit confused on his description for this weeks game of KC vs Saints since they are both qualified plays according to his system. Anyone help me understand a bit more? I am relatively new to sports betting. I also am not 100% clear on how you make up for your loss the following week....Meaning, if i bet $100 (im not betting the 110 to win 100) and i lose, next week i bet 200? But it appears from his instructions you bet more than 200 the following week so i am not entirely clear on the method.

    Thanks for any help

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    New Orleans is the favorite, so they are a Money Line bet @ (-$400 to -$450) to win $100.

    Kansas City is the +9 dog, so you need to buy +1.5 points to get to +10.5 @ -$140 to win $100.

    If New Orleans wins by 10 or less you will win Both bets.

    If New Orleans wins by 11 or more then you win New Orleans, but lose Kansas City. So next week you will need to bet Kansas City again as a Tier 2 play. You will need to bet enough to win $100 profit on the set and recover the loses from Tier 1. ($140 + $100 = $240.

    If Kansas City wins, you will win the Kansas City bet, but will lose a big New Otleans bet, do next week you will bet New Orleans again as a Tier 2 play. You will need to bet enough to win $100 profit on the set and recover the loses from Tier 1. ($400 to $450 + $100 = $500 to $550)

    Hope this clears it up some. Good Luck.

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    4 - 0 so far in NFL

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    you will get burnt.. especially mlb

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