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  • jjgold
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    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #211
    New Jersey still afraid to take wagers this could be a legal mess
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    • johnnyvegas13
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      • 05-21-15
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      #212
      Originally posted by jjgold
      New Jersey still afraid to take wagers this could be a legal mess
      Just gonna take time

      jersey and maybe a couple other states will be up by football season

      w basically the rest of the country season after
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      • johnnyvegas13
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        • 05-21-15
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        #213
        Originally posted by k13
        Most books don't even take US action so who cares. Irrelevant.

        By the time this even gets going it will be years.
        What makes u say that

        I'd say a yr not multiple yrs
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        • capitalist pig
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          • 01-25-07
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          #214
          I was at the Beau Rivage in MS last night and they say they will have the sports betting area open by the end of the Summer, they are closing the high stakes table and slots area and turning it into the sports betting area. What they said was all 26 casinos in MS will be able to offer sports wagering, but there will be no mobile device wagering.

          later
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          • johnnyvegas13
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            • 05-21-15
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            #215
            Originally posted by capitalist pig
            I was at the Beau Rivage in MS last night and they say they will have the sports betting area open by the end of the Summer, they are closing the high stakes table and slots area and turning it into the sports betting area. What they said was all 26 casinos in MS will be able to offer sports wagering, but there will be no mobile device wagering.

            later
            That's positive if true
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            • PAULYPOKER
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              • 12-06-08
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              #216
              Originally posted by jjgold
              Offshore is going to grow like you’ve never seen
              Your asshole is gonna grow like you've never seen..............
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              • Roscoe_Word
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                • 02-28-12
                • 3999

                #217
                Originally posted by turkkatarian
                Why bet offshore when we will be able to Login an account in the USA Legally just like a TD Ameritrade account? Makes No sense to keep betting offshore and be Limited to the Number of Payouts you can get.
                If, when all the smoke clears, we can bet at home at our PCs instead of going to the casino, that would be a good thing. I've seen some posts about no mobile apps though. That's not good.

                I'd play into a 20 cent line if able to bet at home legally. The BTC conversion rates (imo) got out of hand. Coinbase for example. I'm thinking Massachusetts will take forever to join the crowd. They even stopped construction of the new casino in Everett in mid air.
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                • johnnyvegas13
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                  • 05-21-15
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                  #218
                  Originally posted by Roscoe_Word
                  If, when all the smoke clears, we can bet at home at our PCs instead of going to the casino, that would be a good thing. I've seen some posts about no mobile apps though. That's not good.

                  I'd play into a 20 cent line if able to bet at home legally. The BTC conversion rates (imo) got out of hand. Coinbase for example. I'm thinking Massachusetts will take forever to join the crowd. They even stopped construction of the new casino in Everett in mid air.
                  Y is everyone assuming they will have terrible lines

                  10 cent bad enough

                  15 and 20 is insane
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                  • Hman
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 11-04-17
                    • 21429

                    #219
                    Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
                    Y is everyone assuming they will have terrible lines

                    10 cent bad enough

                    15 and 20 is insane



                    But juice isn't the only thing in question.

                    Bonuses, Free Contests, gifts, prizes, and perks come into play.

                    I'll bet anything you find will far better deals Offshore when it comes to all of these things.
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                    • mrpapageorgio
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                      • 09-07-17
                      • 2974

                      #220
                      Originally posted by Hman
                      But juice isn't the only thing in question.

                      Bonuses, Free Contests, gifts, prizes, and perks come into play.

                      I'll bet anything you find will far better deals Offshore when it comes to all of these things.
                      Once U.S. books becomes more widespread assuming a bunch of states (or at least the large population states) adopt sports betting. Until then, offshore's argument has been they are the only game in town.

                      Bonuses don't interest me as I'm more of a hit and run bettor. Low juice and the other incentives are better.
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                      • PAULYPOKER
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                        • 12-06-08
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                        #221
                        Those of you worrying about juice.........

                        What's the juice in Vegas?
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                        • PAULYPOKER
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                          • 12-06-08
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                          #222
                          Another reason they are legalizing sports wagering in the US is poverty.........

                          The poorer someone is the more likely they will turn to gambling,fact........

                          What does this tell you about the future of income inequality?
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                          • booziebilly
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                            • 08-22-16
                            • 18

                            #223
                            I think that legalized sports gambling will be the gateway (drug) to crystal meth and heroin overdoses . I've seen too many people who begin to lose at sports gambling , think they can change their luck by getting high, found dead up and down the Las Vegas strip....Be Warned!!!
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                            • jjgold
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388179

                              #224
                              NJ already delaying sportsbetting

                              Governor not signing any bills
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                              • mrpapageorgio
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                                • 09-07-17
                                • 2974

                                #225
                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                NJ already delaying sportsbetting

                                Governor not signing any bills
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                                • jjgold
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388179

                                  #226
                                  Gov. Phil Murphy made it official: There won't be any legal sports betting in New Jersey by Memorial Day.
                                  Despite the U.S. Supreme Court ruling that paved the way for it and Monmouth Park ready and able to accept bets by May 28, New Jerseyans will have to wait until a bill to regulate the industry is signed into law.
                                  That's because Murphy agrees with the state's top lawmaker, state Senate President Stephen Sweeney, that New Jersey doesn't need to rush into accepting bets.
                                  "The good news is that we're gonna look back on this X years from now and say this was an historic step in the right direction and we started it," Murphy said at a public event on Monday.
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                                  • mrpapageorgio
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                                    • 09-07-17
                                    • 2974

                                    #227
                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                    Gov. Phil Murphy made it official: There won't be any legal sports betting in New Jersey by Memorial Day.
                                    Despite the U.S. Supreme Court ruling that paved the way for it and Monmouth Park ready and able to accept bets by May 28, New Jerseyans will have to wait until a bill to regulate the industry is signed into law.
                                    That's because Murphy agrees with the state's top lawmaker, state Senate President Stephen Sweeney, that New Jersey doesn't need to rush into accepting bets.
                                    "The good news is that we're gonna look back on this X years from now and say this was an historic step in the right direction and we started it," Murphy said at a public event on Monday.
                                    This was already announced last week that they'd have to wait until June 7th which is the soonest the bill could pass.

                                    Here is an article from May 17th.


                                    Get with the times JJ.

                                    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">June 7th is the date that the New Jersey Legislature will vote on the sports betting bills recently introduced in the Senate and Assembly. Both bills are expected to pass and be signed into law quickly by Governor Murphy. <a href="https://t.co/u29vqgzMW9">https://t.co/u29vqgzMW9</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Wallach (@WALLACHLEGAL) <a href="https://twitter.com/WALLACHLEGAL/status/997878902931509250?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"> May 19, 2018</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                                    • jjgold
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                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388179

                                      #228
                                      A lot of red tape

                                      pass not driving 60 miles one way to make a fukkin bet
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                                      • Crusherrr
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                                        • 06-27-16
                                        • 3649

                                        #229
                                        Stupid question but do you get a w2g or anything from books? Say I place a $5500 bet and win $5k. Am I getting a W2G?

                                        Or it is simply up to me to report gambling winnings. I heard $10k they will make you fill some paperwork out but its not for tax purposes just because it hits their threshold
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                                        • mrpapageorgio
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                                          • 09-07-17
                                          • 2974

                                          #230
                                          Originally posted by Crusherrr
                                          Stupid question but do you get a w2g or anything from books? Say I place a $5500 bet and win $5k. Am I getting a W2G?

                                          Or it is simply up to me to report gambling winnings. I heard $10k they will make you fill some paperwork out but its not for tax purposes just because it hits their threshold
                                          AFAIK, you only get a W2G if your payout is 300-1 or greater. However, they will file a currency transaction report if there is a cash transaction greater than $10k. I do not know if they only count your profit when calculating $10k or if it's total including what you laid out.
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                                          • Courtesywipe
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-02-11
                                            • 1623

                                            #231
                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                            all the small books will be gone of course

                                            the top seven are going to be outstanding
                                            ^^^^^^this^^^^^^^
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                                            • PAULYPOKER
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                                              • 12-06-08
                                              • 36581

                                              #232
                                              So when did American greed start sharing the wealth?

                                              If you think big business is going to be genorous, leaving the bilions of dollars market for illegal offshore books,you are insane.............
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                                              • poker6469
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 02-13-12
                                                • 454

                                                #233
                                                I can’t wait to walk in casino Arizona and place a legal sports bet.
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                                                • Microphone
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                                                  • 01-08-08
                                                  • 2950

                                                  #234
                                                  Originally posted by Roscoe_Word
                                                  If, when all the smoke clears, we can bet at home at our PCs instead of going to the casino, that would be a good thing. I've seen some posts about no mobile apps though. That's not good.

                                                  I'd play into a 20 cent line if able to bet at home legally. The BTC conversion rates (imo) got out of hand. Coinbase for example. I'm thinking Massachusetts will take forever to join the crowd. They even stopped construction of the new casino in Everett in mid air.

                                                  Gov. Baker in favor of this and the MGM in Springfield full speed ahead.

                                                  I'm not sure about forever, but not in 2018 for sure.
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                                                  • Brooklyn Dick
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                                                    • 09-12-08
                                                    • 1067

                                                    #235
                                                    Don't be surprised if you see some extra charge on top of the 11-10. Even if it is 1% that will kill off all the big players, and the combination of filling out forms will top it off. Already MLB and the NBA are lobbying for a 1% charge to monitor the games. Like before it was OK to fix games, but now it is not.

                                                    Anything the Government touch's turns to shit. Just ask NY OTB about that..............

                                                    This will only help off shore books by creating new players that will get fed up and go off shore or to locals.
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                                                    • ABEHONEST
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 06-27-09
                                                      • 9470

                                                      #236
                                                      Very good chance you'll see "Weekly-Football Card's," being the weekly-drug high, not only for the sharpies, but the opium for the million's of small player's, too. In the future of course.
                                                      No one believes ABE?
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                                                      • BriGuy
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                                                        • 12-06-11
                                                        • 1556

                                                        #237
                                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                                        NJ already delaying sportsbetting

                                                        Governor not signing any bills
                                                        They're delaying it as in delaying it until June/July. Not, like, delaying it until 2020.

                                                        No one really gives a shit about rushing to bet baseball. As long as its ready by football season, there's no problem. Get back to me in August if it isn't.
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                                                        • BriGuy
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                                                          • 12-06-11
                                                          • 1556

                                                          #238
                                                          Originally posted by Brooklyn Dick
                                                          Don't be surprised if you see some extra charge on top of the 11-10. Even if it is 1% that will kill off all the big players, and the combination of filling out forms will top it off. Already MLB and the NBA are lobbying for a 1% charge to monitor the games.
                                                          Yeah and most states are telling them to go screw.
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                                                          • mrpapageorgio
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                                                            • 09-07-17
                                                            • 2974

                                                            #239
                                                            Originally posted by BriGuy
                                                            They're delaying it as in delaying it until June/July. Not, like, delaying it until 2020.

                                                            No one really gives a shit about rushing to bet baseball. As long as its ready by football season, there's no problem. Get back to me in August if it isn't.
                                                            JJ just likes to make mountains out of mole hills.
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                                                            • johnnyvegas13
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                                                              • 05-21-15
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                                                              #240
                                                              Originally posted by BriGuy
                                                              They're delaying it as in delaying it until June/July. Not, like, delaying it until 2020.

                                                              No one really gives a shit about rushing to bet baseball. As long as its ready by football season, there's no problem. Get back to me in August if it isn't.
                                                              Yes jersey ready by football start this season

                                                              rest of country is next yr
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                                                              • mtneer1212
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                                                                • 06-22-08
                                                                • 4993

                                                                #241
                                                                Originally posted by BriGuy
                                                                Yeah and most states are telling them to go screw.
                                                                West Virginia told Adam Silver to take his 1% and shove it up his ass. He said the best the leagues could hope for was 0.25%, take it or leave it, and it would come out of the operator's end or multi-team wagers.
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                                                                • Optional
                                                                  Administrator
                                                                  • 06-10-10
                                                                  • 61409

                                                                  #242
                                                                  I think this really needs some sort of federal framework for the states to follow to give some sort of uniformity. It's looking like a bloody mess already.
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                                                                  • chilidog
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                                                                    • 04-05-09
                                                                    • 10305

                                                                    #243
                                                                    It's interesting being behind the scenes in the industry in Costa Rica and hearing some of the plans going on. Books in CR are scared.
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                                                                    • Optional
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                                                                      • 06-10-10
                                                                      • 61409

                                                                      #244
                                                                      Originally posted by chilidog
                                                                      It's interesting being behind the scenes in the industry in Costa Rica and hearing some of the plans going on. Books in CR are scared.
                                                                      One thing they could do is get the govt to quickly setup a real regulator and try to go as legit as possible as fast as possible.

                                                                      Try to take over the sweet position the MGA has got itself into.
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                                                                      • Sam Odom
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                                                                        • 10-30-05
                                                                        • 58063

                                                                        #245
                                                                        Originally posted by chilidog
                                                                        It's interesting being behind the scenes in the industry in Costa Rica and hearing some of the plans going on. Books in CR are scared.

                                                                        thanks 'dog
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