Coach what percentage of posters are from the US?
Offshore is going to grow like you’ve never seen
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USCPHILLYGUYSBR Posting Legend
- 12-15-12
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#141Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#142I don’t know I don’t have those stats all I know everybody is not giving up one offshore account, isn’t it interesting Australia and England governments don’t want you playing off shore because they know how good they are and all their residence want to play thereComment -
shadymcgradySBR Posting Legend
- 02-27-12
- 10036
#143Off shore offers the best lines for less popular sports like tennis and soccer as well as prop bets
For most bettors who focus on the domestic or US games though it doesn't matter
Find a local agent with subscriptions to decent Web interfaces and pay or collect cash every week without a single feeComment -
A4KSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-08-12
- 5243
#144Off shore offers the best lines for less popular sports like tennis and soccer as well as prop bets
For most bettors who focus on the domestic or US games though it doesn't matter
Find a local agent with subscriptions to decent Web interfaces and pay or collect cash every week without a single feeComment -
slambamSBR MVP
- 02-07-10
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#145I agree offshore will still do well, they'll probably lose some business, but not too much in the grand scheme. No way they grow like crazy, as the title indicates though. If people aren't using an offshore now, there is no reason this ruling will push them to an offshore, at least imo.Comment -
shadymcgradySBR Posting Legend
- 02-27-12
- 10036
#146When I was spending more time in the city I switched from the staten island/brooklyn guys to the Chinatown books. They had the softest lines and when I asked why someone said they only care ab people not quittingComment -
BarrakudaSBR Wise Guy
- 02-28-18
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#147Does anyone remember when jj still had a pair?Comment -
capitalist pigSBR MVP
- 01-25-07
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#148By the way Gold is trying to counter every post saying it’s not going to work makes me believe it will work and some of these guys are worried about their business model
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Sam OdomSBR Aristocracy
- 10-30-05
- 58063
#149
remember... JJ was going to call the 'Bitcoin Office' to get some answers on how to sign upComment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
- 388179
#150No big book is worried
100,000’s of accounts
Already made 100’s of millions
They might welcome it and get rid of $10 bettorComment -
A4KSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-08-12
- 5243
#151I'm in California. My LA guy has decent lines but everyone else has wide spreads. Baseball is unbettable with them. .30 lines.Comment -
shadymcgradySBR Posting Legend
- 02-27-12
- 10036
#152
For baseball and tennis the lines are terrible and always juiced up compared to 5d. Soccer as well but selectively so
Back when I was playing the Chinatown books it was -105 or even for all the lines with no juice movement when lines movedComment -
A4KSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-08-12
- 5243
#153I was just going to bring up baseball. For basketball and nfl the lines are all set at -105 and move based on action
For baseball and tennis the lines are terrible and always juiced up compared to 5d. Soccer as well but selectively so
Back when I was playing the Chinatown books it was -105 or even for all the lines with no juice movement when lines movedComment -
BriGuySBR MVP
- 12-06-11
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#156LOLOLOLLLLLLL!!!!!!
OK, it's clear you are shilling now.
Yeah, nothing's more "efficient" than having to wait 3 weeks to get paid and getting checks that bounce when they finally arrive (thanks bookmaker.eu!) and having limits on withdrawals and having to pay $50 just to get a withdrawal and credit card fees and bitcoin wallets and customer service that hangs up on you and cancelled bets and basically having no legal recourse whatsoever.Comment -
BriGuySBR MVP
- 12-06-11
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MicrophoneSBR MVP
- 01-08-08
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#158Key word EVENTUALLY. Money and the your local and federal government, good luck. Again still rather have my -105. The day I get stiffed I'll re-look at things. I haven't been yet. I'll keep rolling the dice.Comment -
ABEHONESTSBR Hall of Famer
- 06-27-09
- 9470
#159If I could bet this totally confusing theory JJ has predicted, I wager a hunk that no one knows the actual outcome, even our fabulous personality, JJ?
My money is on the "unpredictable-theory."Comment -
BigdaddyQHSBR Posting Legend
- 07-13-09
- 19530
#161Here is how it is going to work. First, things have been in the planning stages for YEARS, even though most you you people in here hand no idea about that. Next. Indian Tribes own the grounds that they reside on, NOT the State. The State has no power over them. William Hill has well over 100 locations in Nevada where players can wager on sports. It will not take them very long to enter into agreements with Casino's operating on Tribal lands to get their machines in those casino's.
The States that do allow any form of wagering will not sit still for this. They will come up with other ways to draw bettors into places of business so the States rack in huge tax revenues. Possibilities include such things as wagering in stores that carry Lottery Machines, wagering at race tracks, ala Monmouth Park, creating a sports wagering "Lottery", allowing sports wagering at "Off Track" wagering sites, and "On Line" wagering.
Now if you losers want to continue to fight the Bull S**t that off shore sites continue to dish out to you, that is your problem and your stupidity. If you want to wait for weeks to collect your money instead of minutes, go for it. The fact of the matter is that well over 90% of you people who wager something more than air in here are losers. There is certainly not an over abundance of intelligence in here. The vast majority of people who wager off shore will switch to local wagering, no matter what fools like JJ think.Comment -
A4KSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-08-12
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#162Here is how it is going to work. First, things have been in the planning stages for YEARS, even though most you you people in here hand no idea about that. Next. Indian Tribes own the grounds that they reside on, NOT the State. The State has no power over them. William Hill has well over 100 locations in Nevada where players can wager on sports. It will not take them very long to enter into agreements with Casino's operating on Tribal lands to get their machines in those casino's.
The States that do allow any form of wagering will not sit still for this. They will come up with other ways to draw bettors into places of business so the States rack in huge tax revenues. Possibilities include such things as wagering in stores that carry Lottery Machines, wagering at race tracks, ala Monmouth Park, creating a sports wagering "Lottery", allowing sports wagering at "Off Track" wagering sites, and "On Line" wagering.
Now if you losers want to continue to fight the Bull S**t that off shore sites continue to dish out to you, that is your problem and your stupidity. If you want to wait for weeks to collect your money instead of minutes, go for it. The fact of the matter is that well over 90% of you people who wager something more than air in here are losers. There is certainly not an over abundance of intelligence in here. The vast majority of people who wager off shore will switch to local wagering, no matter what fools like JJ think.Comment -
mrpapageorgioSBR MVP
- 09-07-17
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#163All of the states that are determined to have it will have it by September, the rest that are interested will start seriously working on it after the election and their new legislative bodies are sworn in.
For me, depositing/withdrawing via Bitcoin is second nature so I'll stick with offshore assuming they'll offer lower lines and offers to keep me loyal. This is also assuming mobile app betting will be a little slower to happen after in-casino betting is launched. However, once the legit books start offering mobile betting and if the lines are relatively decent, I may reconsider offshore.Last edited by mrpapageorgio; 05-15-18, 11:47 AM.Comment -
daneblazerBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 09-14-08
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#164Theres a finite amount of money and most of the die hard gamblers already gamble somewhere. Some of the diehards will go to the local casino while the new casual gamblers the law will attract will not go offshore. Offshore will still have its place, but this isn’t going to help Vegas, the leagues, offshore, the states, the casinos, the locals, and DFS. At least not in the long term. Someone is going to suffer.Comment -
Sam OdomSBR Aristocracy
- 10-30-05
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#166Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#167Got some call for some big operators and they’re not even remotely concerned because their business model in the USA is very different than Costa RicaComment -
mngamblerSBR MVP
- 08-01-11
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#168top 5 will stick around...the rest of the 3rd world garbage sites out there will go bye byeComment -
jts1207SBR Hall of Famer
- 12-15-16
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#169Once this gets rolling.....govt will kill off access to these sitesComment -
daneblazerBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 09-14-08
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#170Offshore dying? This sounds like a job for the Ayre Force!
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cincinnatikid513SBR Aristocracy
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secretstashSBR Posting Legend
- 03-29-10
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#172
If anything coach, you are making a valid point that the average book is devastated by this. I don't blame them being that a 3rd world country's main "export" they rely on, illegal sports betting, is being taken out from under them.
The one thing the offshores still have is history of offering 100% bonuses. If USA shops ever offer that, I wouldn't place any extended futures bets offshore if it were me--that might be the end.
-stashLast edited by secretstash; 05-15-18, 02:56 PM.Comment -
spro23SBR MVP
- 07-17-15
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#173I'm hoping for fatass deposit bonuses this fall for football with onlines trying to remind us why they're better.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#174Legal places do not give bonuses
Many players make 5K or more a year just on bonuses offshoreComment -
bonzaiiSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-07-17
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#175Don't worry JJ plenty of people who hate the US Govt who will continue to bet offshore to avoid getting taxed to death. If it ends not working out, you could always call Sugar Daddy Tony and I'm sure hell fill a position for ya.Comment
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