Did FishHead really beat the slots?

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  • mathdotcom
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-24-08
    • 11689

    #1
    Did FishHead really beat the slots?
    No.

    https://www.camh.net/egambling/issue...06harrigan.pdf
  • mathdotcom
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-24-08
    • 11689

    #2
    PS: Most poorly written piece of research I've ever laid eyes upon. Your abstract, if anything, should be perfectly clear.
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    • Slim
      SBR MVP
      • 11-13-08
      • 4722

      #3
      Nope. But he makes annoying threads across the street. Like WILHEIM, tell us about the great insert name here. He makes one everyday about some douchebag nobody ever heard about. Wilheim doesn't have time for that shit.
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      • j0hnnyv
        SBR MVP
        • 01-06-09
        • 3620

        #4
        Fishhead is a legend across the street with a post count that makes jjgold blush. 67000 posts over there the latest great is....LUIS TIANT.

        FH please fill us in on this great man
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        • englishmike
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 06-19-08
          • 5279

          #5
          Whether he made any money or not i'd have no clue but he is extremely knowledgeable about all things slots, even down to what came out when.

          Not sure if that proves anything or nothing, just putting it out there.
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          • pavyracer
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 04-12-07
            • 82907

            #6
            He couldn't beat a rigged machine. That's how bad Fishhead is.
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            • Fishhead
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-11-05
              • 40179

              #7
              Originally posted by pavyracer
              He couldn't beat a rigged machine. That's how bad Fishhead is.

              I relish your non-beliefs.






              By the way, will have a sitdown and discuss any past and present slot/video poker strategy at the SBR Bash with anyone...........and will even provide some hands on play in the field of battle.


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              • reno cool
                SBR MVP
                • 07-02-08
                • 3567

                #8
                We've been over this many times. Yes.
                Many people did and still do.
                No way someone would know about the plays as he does and not have played them.
                bird bird da bird's da word
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                • BGS 9.5
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-10-08
                  • 4628

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Fishhead
                  I relish your non-beliefs.






                  By the way, will have a sitdown and discuss any past and present slot/video poker strategy at the SBR Bash with anyone...........and will even provide some hands on play in the field of battle.


                  I hope so, these threads are horrible
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                  • reno cool
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-02-08
                    • 3567

                    #10
                    This is not to say that any random machine in a casino can be beaten or that those that can, can be played continuesly.
                    bird bird da bird's da word
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                    • Fishhead
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 08-11-05
                      • 40179

                      #11
                      Here is an article that actually mentions my group(but not by name). I have BOLDED IT.

                      It would be best if you read the entire article to understand SOMEWHAT of what I did. Please note, JEAN SCOTT and CHARLES LUND(even though they are well known through the media with their books, websites and such, were MINOR LEAGUERS if you will in the area of beatable slots.






                      How The Indiana Jones Slot Machine Works REVEALED!


                      Picture Courtesy of IGT Website


                      The link from the Atlantic City Press went away so I am pasting a copy of the original article below. Not only does it detail how the new Indiana Jones Slot Machine gives all those progressives out so frequently, but it also talks about recent slot machine scandal and hustling surrounding the machine.

                      After not being able to get on the machine at the Borgata in one trip due to the machines having a line to play, 0n the second trip I got to play and it did offer good play time value. I was on there for a good amount of time playing $2.50 a spin and lost $40. What made me stop playing was when a bigger $90 bonus came up, the person next to me playing only $0.75 a spin won the progressive. Annoying for me playing almost 4 times the amount, and great for her. This experience also backs up what the article is saying about people in the know stalking the machines to get an advantage. You do not necessarily have to bet a lot to win a progressive. Slot machine controversy is always fun.


                      From the Atlantic City Press:

                      Indiana Jones slots attract modern "raiders"(Published: Sunday, July 27, 2008)
                      ATLANTIC CITY - There's a saying about slot machines that the only way to beat 'em is to cheat 'em.

                      But a cadre of hustlers is demonstrating there is an exception to every rule, as they exploit a new machine's program to win - and their profit comes not at the expense of the casinos, but rather unsuspecting gamblers.

                      Their target is the "Indiana Jones: Well of Souls" penny-progressive slots that came to Atlantic City a few weeks ago and are found in about a half-dozen gaming halls.

                      The machines are popular with tourists. Hustlers let visitors run up the progressive jackpot meters - and there are five of them on this game - and then move in for the kill when the jackpots are ready to hit.

                      Take the bank of five machines at Borgata Hotel Casino & Spa on a recent Friday evening.
                      Four regular gamblers played 25 cents or more per spin. One man on the end, his slot-club card propped up against the screen to hide his total bet, played 3 cents per game. The man bided his time as the other players added to the progressive jackpots.

                      After a while, graphic flames surrounded the two lower jackpot amounts, a signal that they would pay off relatively soon. The man increased his play to 8 cents per spin. A few minutes later, he inserted his slot-club card into the reader and played the maximum $2.50.
                      A bell rang, and three of the players were sent into a bonus round of 10 free spins. One of them, not the hustler, won the small jackpot.

                      The man went back to playing 3 cents per spin. In casual conversation, he said he started the session with $200.

                      Several minutes later, the man upped his bet, and the bonus round reappeared. This time, he got the 10 free spins along with the $13-and-change jackpot. He cashed out $278 and left.
                      You won't get rich playing like this, but some folks find it an easy way to pick up some cash.

                      'Banking' machines

                      At one time, it was possible to do quite well hustling machines with a "banking" feature, said Charles W. Lund, of Las Vegas, author of "Robbing the One-Armed Bandits."
                      The machines, which made their debute about a dozen years ago, store credits in a bank, and players get a small bonus after it reaches a certain number of coins. If the person playing before you added to the collection and walked away before collecting the bonus, "the machine was actually in your favor rather than just against you," Lund said.
                      This feature was mostly on quarter and dollar machines, and some people made serious money playing machines about to pay a bonus, Lund said. They spent more time searching for machines than actually playing, but the effort paid off because many tourists didn't understand how the games worked.

                      "Somebody's done a lot of playing on it before you get there," he said.

                      Now, most of the bankable machines are in pennies and nickels, and not as lucrative, Lund said.
                      People banking slots aren't guaranteed a jackpot, big or small, but "you've got a head start if you pick the right machine," Lund said.

                      Jean Scott, of Las Vegas, author of "The Frugal Gambler," said she and her husband used to do well in the mid-1990s on a machine called Piggy Bankin'.

                      Every time the reels showed three blanks, a coin was added to the piggy bank, Scott said. When someone got a "break the bank" symbol on the third reel, they won the contents of the bank. Professionals quickly figured that the game was profitable once there were at least 25 coins in the bank.

                      In her book, Scott wrote she and her husband won $400 in one night of crawling the Las Vegas Strip in search of machines with full banks.

                      "We wouldn't sit there hoping for people to build it up. That was too time-consuming," Scott said, especially since they didn't need the money.

                      "At one time, there were people that were making a living doing this, honestly," Scott said. "Some people have gambling as their only means of support, so they're going to scramble. And then there are those people who just love hustling."

                      Casinos in Atlantic City and Las Vegas eventually got rid of the banking machines because hustlers often loitered around them and disturbed regular patrons, Scott and Lund said.
                      But they're coming back to the Indiana Jones slots. Recent visitors to Las Vegas have said teams of hustlers hang around the machines in downtown casinos, sometimes keeping in touch by cell phone with information on rising jackpots.

                      Reaping rewards

                      Hustlers, almost all of them young men, stalk the Indiana Jones machines in Atlantic City. Most are easy to spot, because they cover the amount they're betting with a slot-club card or small piece of paper.

                      Representatives of several Atlantic City casinos declined to comment on the hustlers but did say the Indiana Jones machines are very popular.

                      Visitors don't seem to be aware of the hustlers' activity or that they are contributing to the jackpots that the "pros" then claim.

                      At Resorts Atlantic City, one woman recently played 25 cents per spin on the bank of four Indiana Jones machines. Two men played a penny per spin, and one man played 6 cents per spin. In other words, the woman contributed more than triple to the four progressive mini-jackpots than the other three players combined.

                      The flames ignited on the lowest Sankara Stone progressive, at about $11. The woman went into the game's menu to figure out how to play, and the man next to her was happy to "help."
                      While the woman read the paytables, the bell rang and the bonus round went off. Two of the hustlers got 10 free spins, and one of them took the progressive, the money the female player contributed to the jackpot.

                      But some casinos are starting to act.

                      At least one gaming hall reportedly reprogrammed the Indiana Jones machine to make it impossible to play less than a quarter per spin. As if by magic, most of the hustlers disappeared.
                      How the game worksThe Indiana Jones: Well of Souls slot game has four progressive jackpots for each bank of machines, plus one six-figure jackpot linked to all casinos in town with the game.

                      Sankara Stone: Resets at $8 and must hit by $15
                      Golden Idol: Resets at $35 and must hit by $50
                      Ark of the Covenant: Resets at $75 and must hit by $100
                      Holy Grail: Resets at $400 and must hit by $500

                      The lower the jackpot, the faster the meter rises.

                      When the slot machine's random-number generator triggers a jackpot, anywhere from one to all players on the bank of machines win 10 free spins of the reels. Players betting more coins are more likely to get a bonus, but smaller bettors can get them, too. Ea

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                      • pavyracer
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 04-12-07
                        • 82907

                        #12
                        Fishhead,

                        You started with $200 and sat there for 12 hours to cash out at $278. That's not even minimum wage.
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                        • reno cool
                          SBR MVP
                          • 07-02-08
                          • 3567

                          #13
                          you should remove this FH. ij. see Hard Rock, remember.
                          bird bird da bird's da word
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