Taxes : Who all are Filing as a Professional Gambler ?

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  • Sam Odom
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-30-05
    • 58063

    #1
    Taxes : Who all are Filing as a Professional Gambler ?
    Tax issues for professional gamblers

  • ttwarrior1
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 06-23-09
    • 28460

    #2
    if u win over a certain amount, they give u a tax form you have to file no matter who u are
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    • Foxx
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 05-25-11
      • 5832

      #3
      Originally posted by ttwarrior1
      if u win over a certain amount, they give u a tax form you have to file no matter who u are
      That wasn't really the question. Receiving W2G has little to do with whether or not one files as a professional.
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      • Foxx
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 05-25-11
        • 5832

        #4
        One thing I don't see in the article is that filing as a professional subjects you to the self employment tax for Social Security and Medicare.
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        • Philmill
          SBR MVP
          • 09-30-11
          • 4275

          #5
          Originally posted by Sam Odom
          Tax issues for professional gamblers


          https://www.journalofaccountancy.com...-gamblers.html
          interesting..... Thanks Sam for the read
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          • jjgold
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-20-05
            • 388179

            #6
            Lol

            Gamers reporting
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            • phinfan27615
              SBR MVP
              • 07-10-17
              • 1837

              #7
              Originally posted by Foxx
              One thing I don't see in the article is that filing as a professional subjects you to the self employment tax file Social Security and Medicare.
              You get a deduction for half though so it ends up being the same results
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              • dark star
                SBR MVP
                • 01-04-09
                • 3900

                #8
                Is Broke Landers a Pro?
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                • ttwarrior1
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 06-23-09
                  • 28460

                  #9
                  what about for everyone, anyone here file their forms or losses
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                  • Foxx
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 05-25-11
                    • 5832

                    #10
                    Originally posted by phinfan27615
                    You get a deduction for half though so it ends up being the same results
                    Yes you can deduct half of the self employment tax for calculating taxable income for income tax purposes. That's not a tax credit though and the value of the deduction would be the amount of the deduction times your marginal rate. So the effective bite of the 15.3% Self Employment Tax would wind up being 7.65% + 7.65% x (1 - tax rate) so about 13.4% if you are in the 25% bracket. Certainly not the "same result" as not filing as a professional and paying 0% for that tax. Of course, professionals can deduct certain expenses which may or may not offset the self employment tax cost. Filing as a professional gambler no doubt skyrockets your audit risk as well.
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                    • Marco30
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 12-05-17
                      • 26

                      #11
                      thought that was for state loterries....
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                      • phinfan27615
                        SBR MVP
                        • 07-10-17
                        • 1837

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Foxx
                        Yes you can deduct half of the self employment tax for calculating taxable income for income tax purposes. That's not a tax credit though and the value of the deduction would be the amount of the deduction times your marginal rate. So the effective bite of the 15.3% Self Employment Tax would wind up being 7.65% + 7.65% x (1 - tax rate) so about 13.4% if you are in the 25% bracket. Certainly not the "same result" as not filing as a professional and paying 0% for that tax. Of course, professionals can deduct certain expenses which may or may not offset the self employment tax cost. Filing as a professional gambler no doubt skyrockets your audit risk as well.
                        you're right, had a brain fart and forgot a "for agi* deduction isn't the same as a tax credit. thanks for clarifying
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