Kraft, Brady put Belichick in his place, he may leave

**Snowball** · 01-05-18, 09:34 AM

also on Brady not happy with Bill personally:

Yahoo News

https://www.yahoo.com/news/report-tom-brady-grew-weary-124703052.html

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**19th Hole** · 01-05-18, 09:35 AM

Unbelievable news

**Harry N. Lloyd** · 01-05-18, 09:36 AM

Snowey, can't you tell when you're being played? The NY Daily News article comes from an ESPN piece. The Patriots don't let ESPN anywhere near the facilities after they let Chris Mortenson mis-report about Deflategate. This is what is known as Fake News.

**Snowball** · 01-05-18, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by Harry N. Lloyd

Snowey, can't you tell when you're being played? The NY Daily News article comes from an ESPN piece. The Patriots don't let ESPN anywhere near the facilities after they let Chris Mortenson mis-report about Deflategate. This is what is known as Fake News.

I'm listening to Wickersham on CSSNE right now
it's about TB12 and lots of other reasons
this is probably real - we all know Bill is an egomaniac.

**lakerboy** · 01-05-18, 09:39 AM

Harry keep deflecting. The pats did NOT deny the full story

**19th Hole** · 01-05-18, 09:41 AM

The last 4 letters in Wickersham's name tell the whole story.

**Snowball** · 01-05-18, 09:43 AM

I would like to see Belichick go.
He is a lousy GM and other players don't like him either
he rode the organization - inherited Parcells and Carroll era
players - and directed cheating - send BB packing
and let's see what Kraft and Brady can do alone
promote Josh or Matt to head coach.

**Dilo** · 01-05-18, 09:45 AM

Alex guerrero had a major role in this. Also jimmy garrapolo was making big time progress in the system. Both Brady and belicheck put in enough time and their roles were coming to an end anyways. its just ugly the way the story is ending.

**Snowball** · 01-05-18, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by 19th Hole

The last 4 letters in Wickersham's name tell the whole story.

no, other local writers adding and backing up story
it is real... but no decisions for sure
maybe Belichick to Giants ?

**19th Hole** · 01-05-18, 09:57 AM

NFL isn't summer camp...

**shadymcgrady** · 01-05-18, 10:43 AM

Unbelievable, brady would've been just another check down charlie without belicheat

**DOM-Ganador** · 01-05-18, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by Snowball

I would like to see Belichick go.
He is a lousy GM and other players don't like him either
he rode the organization - inherited Parcells and Carroll era
players - and directed cheating - send BB packing
and let's see what Kraft and Brady can do alone
promote Josh or Matt to head coach.

Snow. WTF you talkin` bout.
1) BB
2) BB
3) TB

Bill is far and away the most important piece of this dynasty. Brady has been awesome.
BUT, I believe Bill would have found another QB along the way and had some great success.
Krafts greatest strength as owner has been managing the brand and leaving the football to Bill.

The JG situation is simple. Hard cap. No way to keep them both. Bill kept him as long as he could, probably hoping TB fell off a cliff.

Also, the thinking that you can replace Bill with either JM/MP is ludicrous. Their success as coordinators has everything to do with attending the BB graduate FB program.

NFL head coach is chess @ a MASTER level. Coordinators have like 20% of the responsibility.

**A4K** · 01-05-18, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by shadymcgrady

Unbelievable, brady would've been just another check down charlie without belicheat

**DOM-Ganador** · 01-05-18, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by shadymcgrady

Unbelievable, brady would've been just another check down charlie without belicheat

OK Shady.Sure TB never had all the natural talent as some other QBs. No sheit. He is basically Herman Munster.
BUT what he did give you, and still does, is leadership, work ethic and an unbeatable calmness under pressure.
So calling him a check down Charlie ( Alex Smith) simply shows your disdain for the greatest NFL dynasty of all time.

**eswerve4** · 01-05-18, 10:48 AM

The reign will continue until B.B. and Brady are both gone. B.B. won’t leave, he would have to be forced out

**DOM-Ganador** · 01-05-18, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by A4K

OK, name 5 guys, all time who you would put ahead of TB to play for BB and all those different type of offenses.

If the Pats win #6, misses their #1 LB and best ball control receiver, will you give them any respect?

What NFL team are you a fan of ?

**Kermit** · 01-05-18, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by shadymcgrady

Unbelievable, brady would've been just another check down charlie without belicheat

I don't know about that. Over the last decade, I've watched the guy put together some of the most amazing comeback wins ever.

I hate Brady as much as anyone else, but you cannot deny his talent. Best QB to ever play the game IMO.

**A4K** · 01-05-18, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by DOM-Ganador

OK, name 5 guys, all time who you would put ahead of TB to play for BB and all those different type of offenses.

If the Pats win #6, misses their #1 LB and best ball control receiver, will you give them any respect?

What NFL team are you a fan of ?

Not a fan of any team, I am an adult. You think Brady or any of these fuqtards care about you or your city?

Brady is a great but without Bill's system he would not be a great. Put Brady on the Browns his whole career and he's a good not great QB.

**shocka1212** · 01-05-18, 11:01 AM

come home Bill. We won't disrespect you like that

**DOM-Ganador** · 01-05-18, 11:03 AM

Originally posted by A4K

Not a fan of any team, I am an adult. You think Brady or any of these fuqtards care about you or your city?

Brady is a great but without Bill's system he would not be a great. Put Brady on the Browns his whole career and he's a good not great QB.

So, in your adult, informed opinion, answer my? Name your better QBs.

**A4K** · 01-05-18, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by DOM-Ganador

So, in your adult, informed opinion, answer my? Name your better QBs.

Vinny Testaverde

**Snowball** · 01-05-18, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by DOM-Ganador

Bill is far and away the most important piece of this dynasty.

I don't agree at all, but we will never know for sure.
Patriot coordinators have been excellent over the years,
and it is not possible to underestimate the influence GM Scott Pioli
had on the team - Parcell's son-in-law. The Krafts themselves
have exercised influence since the beginning also. It is ridiculous
for you to attempt to minimize Tom Brady. Evidently you don't remember
the years Belichick was nothing but an average coach before walking into
New England and inheriting the Patriots.
Concerning this spat, no idea if it sticks or goes away - that's probably
up to Bill and his own plans. But the gauntlet has been laid down -
and it's the Krafts and Tom who will call the shots.

**shadymcgrady** · 01-05-18, 11:14 AM

Brady is lucky Luciano, belicheat is the rothstein that created him

**SharpAngles** · 01-05-18, 11:22 AM

Writing was on the wall when Belichik gave away Jimmy G for peanuts. His FU to Kraft for not letting him whack Brady.

**Harry N. Lloyd** · 01-05-18, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by Snowball

I would like to see Belichick go.
He is a lousy GM and other players don't like him either
he rode the organization - inherited Parcells and Carroll era
players - and directed cheating - send BB packing
and let's see what Kraft and Brady can do alone
promote Josh or Matt to head coach.

Snowey, take 2 weeks off from posting and then quit for good.

**lakerboy** · 01-05-18, 11:29 AM

Great systems win.
Best system managers ever

Belichick
Alex Ferguson

**shadymcgrady** · 01-05-18, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by Kermit

I don't know about that. Over the last decade, I've watched the guy put together some of the most amazing comeback wins ever.

I hate Brady as much as anyone else, but you cannot deny his talent. Best QB to ever play the game IMO.

Belicheat is arguably the greatest nfl coach of all time. He's in that mix with shula or Walsh or whoever

Brady is good but I see him more like a scottie pippen

**Snowball** · 01-05-18, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by SharpAngles

Writing was on the wall when Belichik gave away Jimmy G for peanuts. His FU to Kraft for not letting him whack Brady.

you have the story wrong.

**Snowball** · 01-05-18, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by Harry N. Lloyd

Snowey, take 2 weeks off from posting and then quit for good.

Belichick is a losing coach without Brady
those are the stats bud.

**lakerboy** · 01-05-18, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by Snowball

Belichick is a losing coach without Brady
those are the stats bud.

What is Tom bradys record without belichick in the NFL?

**survive** · 01-05-18, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by DOM-Ganador

Snow. WTF you talkin` bout.
1) BB
2) BB
3) TB

Bill is far and away the most important piece of this dynasty. Brady has been awesome.
BUT, I believe Bill would have found another QB along the way and had some great success.
Krafts greatest strength as owner has been managing the brand and leaving the football to Bill.

The JG situation is simple. Hard cap. No way to keep them both. Bill kept him as long as he could, probably hoping TB fell off a cliff.

Also, the thinking that you can replace Bill with either JM/MP is ludicrous. Their success as coordinators has everything to do with attending the BB graduate FB program.

NFL head coach is chess @ a MASTER level. Coordinators have like 20% of the responsibility.

This is absolutely correct. Snowy is straight up embarrassing himself in this thread lmao

**jjgold** · 01-05-18, 11:42 AM

Brady is all you need

Without him zero superbowls

**Harry N. Lloyd** · 01-05-18, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Harry keep deflecting. The pats did NOT deny the full story

Page not found – Boston Herald

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots/the_blitz/2018/01/kraft_brady_belichick_blast_fallacies_in_report_say_we_stand

Not sure where you're getting your info from. The ESPN article did not contain one single on-the-record quote. Not one.

**19th Hole** · 01-05-18, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Brady is all you need
Without him zero superbowls

JJ...
Your astuteness, acumen and perception in all things sporting is mind-boggling.