President Trump tells NFL owners something.

[Thor4140]

As someone who is in the military, I will tell you I am losing all respect for the NFL and the players today. I'm not even watching the games. This is stupid. I like that Trump came out and said what he said, although I thought his language was a little harsh. I think he went over the top a bit with it which has caused this backlash. But players sitting for the national anthem? Players not coming out for the national anthem? Yeah, have fun with your ratings and attendance now, NFL. It is the first amendment right so I'm not here to say they can't do it, but I can say they are disrespectful, idiotic, stupid and unpatriotic for doing it.

This has nothing to do with the military and if u don't understand that than maybe u should stay out of the conversation.

[Grits n' Gravy]

And so does every last anti-Trumper there is. And anyone not irrationally anti-Trump thinks you, the millionaire players, and the billionaire owners are a bunch of assholes.

Trump wins again.

I see your writing skills are as bad as your avatar's ass wiping skills. You can't even form a coherent sentence.

You lose again.

[Kermit]

Not every one that was protesting the statue removal was a white supremacist and not everyone protesting was Antifa.

[pilebuck13]

lol, your being duped like the rest of em. I'm sure trump specifically was only referring to torch wielding white supremacists when he made that statement...not the hundreds of other peaceful protesters that didn't want the monument to be torn down....but every white person that attended was a neo nazi lol....do you miss logic or what

[JIBBBY]

Destroy Trump media makes Trump seem like a racist when he's clearly not.. People are brainwashed by the media or still butt hurt from the Hillary loss is what we are still seeing to this day.. Robots and or cry babies..

[Grits n' Gravy]

lol, your being duped like the rest of em. I'm sure trump specifically was only referring to torch wielding white supremacists when he made that statement...not the hundreds of other peaceful protesters that didn't want the monument to be torn down....but every white person that attended was a neo nazi lol....do you miss logic or what

How are you sure Trump specifically was only referring to his white trash fan base? Do you two share a brain?

[pilebuck13]

How are you sure Trump specifically was only referring to his white trash fan base? Do you two share a brain?

Ignorant to believe a bunch of rednecks or "white trash" as you call it is just trumps fan base. I'm not sure, nobody is are they? But the media pushes it like they are sure who he was referring to...I believe he wasn't referring to neo nazis and you can believe the latter...I don't really care...I don't believe trump is racist, you can I don't care. What I see is when the media all jumps on it and tag teams the hell out of him it seems to me one sided and slander..

[bosigga]

Not every one that was protesting the statue removal was a white supremacist and not everyone protesting was Antifa.

lol, your being duped like the rest of em. I'm sure trump specifically was only referring to torch wielding white supremacists when he made that statement...not the hundreds of other peaceful protesters that didn't want the monument to be torn down....but every white person that attended was a neo nazi lol....do you miss logic or what

I think it's both of you who are missing the point. After a case of demotic terrorism by neonazis/KKK he comes out and says there's very fine people on both sides. Yet these NFL players who are peacefully making a statement, who aren't committing a crime, are called sons of bitches and that they should be fired. Did he call for violent neo-nazis to lose their jobs?

Kermit, did you watch that video yourself? Trump doesn't feel what he's saying. He only made those statements AFTER catching heat for his initial reactions. It's incredibly forced. Watch how riled up he is about the NFL players.

You are are kidding yourself if you don't see the difference in how he responds differently between the two. And no, I'm not saying every person who was there in VA is a neo-nazi. I know you'll try to go there.

[khicks26]

Well most of us are going to watch the NFL. All the Trump Nazi's can sit in here & bitch about it for the rest of the day. Since they won't be watching. LOL

[khicks26]

[pilebuck13]

Fukin boos were loud as hell in New England they cut the feed off lol dumb this will be over in a few weeks...

[khicks26]

[khicks26]

Packed House in Detroit.

[The Kraken]

People think Trump is outspoken? People believe Trump never thinks?

He intentionally blurts out things. He's the President... he knows what needs to be done.

If he didn't say anything... in about 5 years from now... 30% of the USA would be sitting through the anthem. It's a disgrace.

These fools kneeling are dividing the nation.... not Trump.

He's the president so he knows what needs to be done????

Did you say the same about Obama because you know, he was a president too

[jjgold]

Never forget whites run the world

Blacks going nowhere

[HockeyRocks]

General Bonespur talking Patriotism is laughable

[MinnesotaFats]

This has nothing to do with the military and if u don't understand that than maybe u should stay out of the conversation.

This is not accurate. Most if not all pregame ceremonies are conducted by the Honor Guard and feature Vets and it disabled Vets and it current active duty, many also invite these people's to hold flags or unveil a giant flag on the field. It us part if a civil society honoring those who voluntarily protect it. If these jerkoffs won't stand in attention to respect those individuals then they have no place in a society that is free due solely to those being locally honored.

That is the problem with the black players protests here....they are misusing their local platform for national reasons and it's not working. The players who feel abused or who want to bring awareness to a cause should pool their money and buy public service announcement time during the NFL games, while still honoring the local individuals and military units honored at each game.

There has never been a more misguided approach to civil disobedience in my experience, the players are biting the hand that feeds them and threaten to turn all sports back 40 years in terms of money, bargaining and rights.

They had a good thing going, just too F-ing stupid to keep their mouths shut and not rock the boat. We always laugh when some firmer pro bowler goes broke 5 years after retiring, we'll be laughing without control when 500 currebtplayers get a 25% pay cut next CBA due to their actions.

[Nitrogen]

This is not accurate. Most if not all pregame ceremonies are conducted by the Honor Guard and feature Vets and it disabled Vets and it current active duty, many also invite these people's to hold flags or unveil a giant flag on the field. It us part if a civil society honoring those who voluntarily protect it. If these jerkoffs won't stand in attention to respect those individuals then they have no place in a society that is free due solely to those being locally honored.

That is the problem with the black players protests here....they are misusing their local platform for national reasons and it's not working. The players who feel abused or who want to bring awareness to a cause should pool their money and buy public service announcement time during the NFL games, while still honoring the local individuals and military units honored at each game.

#1 - a lot of these ceremonies are PAID FOR by the military. How long until they force fans to watch Red Dawn before the start of each game (wait, under Trump Red Dawn would have to be re-made where North Koreans attack a cross burning in Idaho)

#2 - The players are not screaming during the anthem. They aren't burning a flag. They are kneeling. Whatever your background is, the fact that you feel you know better how someone should exercise their right to express themselves in a quiet, non violent way, speaks volumes.

[ByeShea]

This has nothing to do with the military and if u don't understand that than maybe u should stay out of the conversation.

Awww, there's my precious snotnose.

Hi little angry buddy.

[doubledime]

31 arrests in 2017 alone in the NFL! Let that sink in...................................... .......

https://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/arrests/

[MinnesotaFats]

#1 - a lot of these ceremonies are PAID FOR by the military. How long until they force fans to watch Red Dawn before the start of each game (wait, under Trump Red Dawn would have to be re-made where North Koreans attack a cross burning in Idaho)

#2 - The players are not screaming during the anthem. They aren't burning a flag. They are kneeling. Whatever your background is, the fact that you feel you know better how someone should exercise their right to express themselves in a quiet, non violent way, speaks volumes.

So herein lays a valid point of Trump. If the US MILITARY pays the NFL to display and conduct these expressions of support, is the player not being insubordinate? If Pepsi pays the league for sideline Cola sponsorship and a bunch of clowns start drinking COKE, they'd be punished or sanctioned. It's disrespectful to the Military in one manner, to the league advertisers as another.

Second of all, the league partners with several foundation's associated with honoring the Military as part of the partnership. Tillman foundation, wounded warriors, you name it- there's a co-opted agreement with the shield involved. The protests, due to their misguided messages and abuse of venue, is sending a contradictory message to the public. That's not good PR.

Again, everyone has a right to free speech, but no-one has a right to free speech at work. It is utterly inexcusable to dishonor your own country when playing abroad, and it makes absolutely no sense to the large majority of Americans what the players are protesting when you kneel in Green Bay or Indianapolis or Dallas. Middle America doesn't care about the perceived so oak injustices of Michael Bennet- you know why, because they all think the same thing..."why are you out on the streets of Vegas at 4am". They don't care about Kaepernick because they say "You had a $125mm contract, just shut up and cash checks"....they don't care about the hypocrisy of a black thief shot by Ferguson officers because he's guilty, and then when the cards are reversed and an innocent white woman is shot by a black cop in MN no-one talks about it in Media.

The real issue we all ought to discuss is how to get the truth and accuracy increased in our media and reporting so we don't have these over the top inflamifory reactions and protests in sports. We all remember when NBA players came out w "hands up don't shoot" and that expression turned out to be a complete lie and fabrication.

Bottom line is- the protests here are interfering with business as usual and people are sick of it, it's not helping the black cause at all....I don't know how a player kneeling makes your life any better, but i can guaranty that had these players been proactive with public service regarding this the league would have chipped in and money would have been raised and distributed to community action groups.

There is a more proactice, less decisive way to handle this without jeopardizing the league.

[Nitrogen]

31 arrests in 2017 alone in the NFL! Let that sink in...................................... .......

https://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/arrests/

1700 players in the league. 1.8% arrested.

Venturing a guess that the % is higher for this forum.

[chico2663]

As a former member of the military ;I believe it is their right. I have a problem with flag burning but that is just me. I find it hilarious that people like trump that refused to serve have a problem. Trump only has 6 or 7 housing violations for discrimination. He also put shit in the times about some black kids (central park 5) and never apologized when they were proven innocent. Dad was arrested at klan meeting. But no he loves people of color. Anyone that has a problem with this are the dweebs that never played sports or are undercover racists. These are the same people that will spew how bad obama was. But couldn't tell you why he was bad and refuse to put any blame on the situation he was left with

[DwightShrute]

As a former member of the military ;I believe it is their right. I have a problem with flag burning but that is just me. I find it hilarious that people like trump that refused to serve have a problem. Trump only has 6 or 7 housing violations for discrimination. He also put shit in the times about some black kids (central park 5) and never apologized when they were proven innocent. Dad was arrested at klan meeting. But no he loves people of color. Anyone that has a problem with this are the dweebs that never played sports or are undercover racists. These are the same people that will spew how bad obama was. But couldn't tell you why he was bad and refuse to put any blame on the situation he was left with

no one is saying it not their right. Just do it on your own time. Just like those fukking assholes at awards shows like the Oscars. We are hear to watch football not some asshole disrespecting the game.

Oh and Trump also has a right to say what he feels about it. Millions agree with him.

[bigtymer56]

So herein lays a valid point of Trump. If the US MILITARY pays the NFL to display and conduct these expressions of support, is the player not being insubordinate? If Pepsi pays the league for sideline Cola sponsorship and a bunch of clowns start drinking COKE, they'd be punished or sanctioned. It's disrespectful to the Military in one manner, to the league advertisers as another.

Second of all, the league partners with several foundation's associated with honoring the Military as part of the partnership. Tillman foundation, wounded warriors, you name it- there's a co-opted agreement with the shield involved. The protests, due to their misguided messages and abuse of venue, is sending a contradictory message to the public. That's not good PR.

Again, everyone has a right to free speech, but no-one has a right to free speech at work. It is utterly inexcusable to dishonor your own country when playing abroad, and it makes absolutely no sense to the large majority of Americans what the players are protesting when you kneel in Green Bay or Indianapolis or Dallas. Middle America doesn't care about the perceived so oak injustices of Michael Bennet- you know why, because they all think the same thing..."why are you out on the streets of Vegas at 4am". They don't care about Kaepernick because they say "You had a $125mm contract, just shut up and cash checks"....they don't care about the hypocrisy of a black thief shot by Ferguson officers because he's guilty, and then when the cards are reversed and an innocent white woman is shot by a black cop in MN no-one talks about it in Media.

The real issue we all ought to discuss is how to get the truth and accuracy increased in our media and reporting so we don't have these over the top inflamifory reactions and protests in sports. We all remember when NBA players came out w "hands up don't shoot" and that expression turned out to be a complete lie and fabrication.

Bottom line is- the protests here are interfering with business as usual and people are sick of it, it's not helping the black cause at all....I don't know how a player kneeling makes your life any better, but i can guaranty that had these players been proactive with public service regarding this the league would have chipped in and money would have been raised and distributed to community action groups.

There is a more proactice, less decisive way to handle this without jeopardizing the league.

White people: "Black people should protest peacefully!"
*Black person sits quietly during national anthem*
White people: "No not like that."

[bigtymer56]

[Nitrogen]

As a former member of the military ;I believe it is their right. I have a problem with flag burning but that is just me.

That's an important distinction. There's this weird sentiment that people want to dictate how people protest, and ideally, would prefer they only protest out of sight.

[DwightShrute]

That's an important distinction. There's this weird sentiment that people want to dictate how people protest, and ideally, would prefer they only protest out of sight.

not at all. Its a football game. 3 hours to go watch and cheer. No need to be a selfish oyster and inject politics into it. That leaves you about 165 hours during the week to protest like fukk

[lakerboy]

not at all. Its a football game. 3 hours to go watch and cheer. No need to be a selfish oyster and inject politics into it. That leaves you about 165 hours during the week to protest like fukk

This is their only podium.

[Mac4Lyfe]

So herein lays a valid point of Trump. If the US MILITARY pays the NFL to display and conduct these expressions of support, is the player not being insubordinate? If Pepsi pays the league for sideline Cola sponsorship and a bunch of clowns start drinking COKE, they'd be punished or sanctioned. It's disrespectful to the Military in one manner, to the league advertisers as another.

So if a cigarette company wanted to advertise with the NFL or some company that you did not agree with. Are you saying that you would stand, applaud, support said company? Wouldn't you just do what Kaernick is doing by being silent? He's not drinking Coke on the sideline. He's not stepping on the flag during the anthem.

I actually think the anthem is played too damn much. They play it for every damn thing. No I don't feel like standing at a Junior High School swimming meet. I don't feel like standing because they play it at the rodeo. I do it anyway but it is forced obedience. It's mind control because we are sheep and will cow tow and don't even know why we do it.

Most people don't give a shit about the military. Most people are fukking hypocrites. They could care less about our vets, who are committing suicide every day. Why aren't blacks doing something about murders in Chicago? Well why aren't we doing something about the thousands of vets killing themselves, almost 1 vet per hour across the country? Where is the outrage over 22 service men dying a day? What are we doing to help them? Oh, we're all standing and putting our hands on our hearts. Give me a fukkin break.

Most people will stand for the anthem but do nothing for society. Many people will scream out USA, while calling Muslim Americans names behind their back. Most of these people in congress have never served and would never let their kids serve but they are the most vocal on these issues. Why is it the people that never served are the most self righteous telling you how you should serve? Trump never served, found a loophole so he wouldn't serve and is supposed to tell me what's Patriotism? He bashed a guy that was a prisoner of war and some of you side with him on this no issue?

A president is supposed to bring people together. He's supposed to create a dialog that can bring about unity, not confusion and hatred. This was a bad move by Trump.

[JIBBBY]

31 arrests in 2017 alone in the NFL! Let that sink in...................................... .......

https://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/arrests/

NFL - National Felony League


Looks like alot of DUI's, few drugs, gun and of course the Domestic violence arrest..

[DwightShrute]

This is their only podium.

but its really not isn't it?

[Mac4Lyfe]

I find it hilarious that people like trump that refused to serve have a problem. Trump only has 6 or 7 housing violations for discrimination. He also put shit in the times about some black kids (central park 5) and never apologized when they were proven innocent. Dad was arrested at klan meeting. But no he loves people of color. Anyone that has a problem with this are the dweebs that never played sports or are undercover racists.

Trump believes in shitting on everyone, doesn't matter what color. He has screwed so many people in NY that most won't even do business with him. He owes so many people money, he just won't pay them for work they've done. He calls it shrewd but it's being a dick. He has something wired where he feels he has to screw you. Then he's your friend right after he fukked you. Go look at the way he fukked Bob Arum, unbelievable. Trump once agreed to help pay off a mortgage for a lady. Once he found out she owed a lot of money, he tried to strong arm the mortgage company to not pay them. Who does that? Why agree in the first place? He likes to screw people. he gets off on it.

[dante1]

Trump believes in shitting on everyone, doesn't matter what color. He has screwed so many people in NY that most won't even do business with him. He owes so many people money, he just won't pay them for work they've done. He calls it shrewd but it's being a dick. He has something wired where he feels he has to screw you. Then he's your friend right after he fukked you. Go look at the way he fukked Bob Arum, unbelievable. Trump once agreed to help pay off a mortgage for a lady. Once he found out she owed a lot of money, he tried to strong arm the mortgage company to not pay them. Who does that? Why agree in the first place? He likes to screw people. he gets off on it.

the more he stirs the shit the more people are against him, let this BS issue be settled with the NFL and Kap. He sticks his nose in it and almost the entire NFL and mostly all the players give him the finger. President of the USA informing people to spite the spirit of capitalism. This is a first.

on another note the American people are greatly against the way he is handling NK. Handling? calling names can't be called handling. Newest poll shows again the majority of people against this asshole concerning NK. Everything he touches turns to shit. What a fckin disaster.

[Thor4140]

So if a cigarette company wanted to advertise with the NFL or some company that you did not agree with. Are you saying that you would stand, applaud, support said company? Wouldn't you just do what Kaernick is doing by being silent? He's not drinking Coke on the sideline. He's not stepping on the flag during the anthem.

I actually think the anthem is played too damn much. They play it for every damn thing. No I don't feel like standing at a Junior High School swimming meet. I don't feel like standing because they play it at the rodeo. I do it anyway but it is forced obedience. It's mind control because we are sheep and will cow tow and don't even know why we do it.

Most people don't give a shit about the military. Most people are fukking hypocrites. They could care less about our vets, who are committing suicide every day. Why aren't blacks doing something about murders in Chicago? Well why aren't we doing something about the thousands of vets killing themselves, almost 1 vet per hour across the country? Where is the outrage over 22 service men dying a day? What are we doing to help them? Oh, we're all standing and putting our hands on our hearts. Give me a fukkin break.

Most people will stand for the anthem but do nothing for society. Many people will scream out USA, while calling Muslim Americans names behind their back. Most of these people in congress have never served and would never let their kids serve but they are the most vocal on these issues. Why is it the people that never served are the most self righteous telling you how you should serve? Trump never served, found a loophole so he wouldn't serve and is supposed to tell me what's Patriotism? He bashed a guy that was a prisoner of war and some of you side with him on this no issue?

A president is supposed to bring people together. He's supposed to create a dialog that can bring about unity, not confusion and hatred. This was a bad move by Trump.

The party that lied us into an unwinnable war killing thousands upon thousands of our soldiers (while their campaign donors made out like bandits)always has the Vets in their heart according to these imbeciles. How any vet gets sucked into their nonsense is beyond be. The sad part is that if the other side knew how to make a point these soldiers wouldn't be this gullible but unfortunately we don't have a side that does this.