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  • JAKEPEAVY21
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 03-11-11
    • 29254

    #176
    Originally posted by mpaschal34
    Oh sh!t....did I do something stupid or wrong?

    Should have known it wasn't that easy. I'm off to find an underground dude to change my identity.
    coinbase will shut you down if you send directly to sportsbooks or gambling sites. You need to have an intermediary wallet to fund any gambling sites.
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    • khicks26
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 09-16-06
      • 45575

      #177
      Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
      coinbase will shut you down if you send directly to sportsbooks or gambling sites. You need to have an intermediary wallet to fund any gambling sites.
      So how long before the government comes in & shuts down the intermediary wallets?
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      • terpkeg
        SBR MVP
        • 10-26-09
        • 2364

        #178
        Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
        coinbase will shut you down if you send directly to sportsbooks or gambling sites. You need to have an intermediary wallet to fund any gambling sites.
        How would coinbase know that the address you send coins to is controlled by someone in the industry? I have been transferring this way for several years.
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        • moojoo
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 09-02-16
          • 938

          #179
          Cant compare btc pure cash and sportsbook cash with 5xRollOver.
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          • R40
            SBR High Roller
            • 07-18-17
            • 203

            #180
            If Sportsbook cash has a 5x rollover your value is reduced about 30%. At present, it looks like bitcoin payments are about 60% of sportsbook cash so sportsbook cash is a slightly better value. But then you do not have to go through everything you do with sportsbook cash so I would prefer the bitcoin payout at the present redemption rate.
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            • JAKEPEAVY21
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 03-11-11
              • 29254

              #181
              Originally posted by khicks26
              So how long before the government comes in & shuts down the intermediary wallets?
              not sure how they could swing that when bitcoin and cryptocurrencies are used by numerous countries worldwide.
              Originally posted by terpkeg
              How would coinbase know that the address you send coins to is controlled by someone in the industry? I have been transferring this way for several years.
              just what I've heard happen to some others on the forums
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              • khicks26
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 09-16-06
                • 45575

                #182
                Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                not sure how they could swing that when bitcoin and cryptocurrencies are used by numerous countries worldwide.

                just what I've heard happen to some others on the forums
                So is US currency. Got burned for about 1K in the 08 poker shutdown.
                Last edited by khicks26; 09-11-17, 02:37 PM.
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                • RoyBacon
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 09-21-05
                  • 37074

                  #183
                  Originally posted by khicks26
                  So to use BTC from the store. You need a Coinbase account & a Blockchian account? The store will send the BTC to your Coinbase account & you then send it to your Blockchain account? Then you can send it to a Book? Is this correct?
                  Yes. Correct.
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                  • khicks26
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 09-16-06
                    • 45575

                    #184
                    Originally posted by RoyBacon
                    Yes. Correct.
                    Thanks Bros!
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                    • grease lightnin
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 10-01-12
                      • 16015

                      #185
                      Originally posted by terpkeg
                      How would coinbase know that the address you send coins to is controlled by someone in the industry? I have been transferring this way for several years.
                      From what I understand, if the book uses a new address for every transaction, you will be fine. But if they don't, and coinbase sees a shitload of transfers to/from 1 address, and you can't eaxplain, then they assume it is shady and ban you.
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                      • sweep
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 10-09-10
                        • 16753

                        #186
                        This gives a whole new meaning to the term " broke dikk fukk"

                        this thread should be SBRPRO only
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                        • JAKEPEAVY21
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 03-11-11
                          • 29254

                          #187
                          Originally posted by khicks26
                          So is US currency. Got burned for about 1K in the 08 poker shutdown.
                          everything in life is a gamble, you could die crossing the street.
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                          • sweep
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 10-09-10
                            • 16753

                            #188
                            Originally posted by khicks26
                            So is US currency. Got burned for about 1K in the 08 poker shutdown.
                            consider yourself lucky..im out 5 figures
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                            • khicks26
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 09-16-06
                              • 45575

                              #189
                              Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                              everything in life is a gamble, you could die crossing the street.
                              Very true. That's why I would mostly just use betpoints to fund the account.

                              Did you get hit in 08 as well. I remember your user name from the poker tables & some of the poker forums. Also remember playing with TT warrior as well.
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                              • JAKEPEAVY21
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 03-11-11
                                • 29254

                                #190
                                Originally posted by khicks26
                                Very true. That's why I would mostly just use betpoints to fund the account.

                                Did you get hit in 08 as well. I remember your user name from the poker tables & some of the poker forums. Also remember playing with TT warrior as well.
                                no thankfully I had no money on full tilt or absolute poker at the time. I had some at pokerstars but was able to get that quickly.
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                                • Sam Losco
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-03-16
                                  • 3858

                                  #191
                                  Originally posted by spider



                                  basic math 101 for international members (including canucks)
                                  ======================================== =======

                                  $100 sportsbook cash ...................... 1500 pts

                                  $100 bitcoin purchase...................... 3300 pts
                                  thats good, but some people still may take the BC option if given to them at those prices. bills come before bets, and cash is king
                                  Last edited by Sam Losco; 09-11-17, 02:49 PM.
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                                  • khicks26
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 09-16-06
                                    • 45575

                                    #192
                                    Originally posted by sweep
                                    consider yourself lucky..im out 5 figures
                                    I do. Sorry for your lose, the whole thing was BS. I was also cashing in my Full Tilt points for a 50 inch TV at the time. Had the order placed at the time of the bust. Never got the TV
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                                    • khicks26
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 09-16-06
                                      • 45575

                                      #193
                                      Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                      no thankfully I had no money on full tilt or absolute poker at the time. I had some at pokerstars but was able to get that quickly.
                                      Yeah Stars was good about that. I also got my money from Stars pretty fast.
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                                      • Optional
                                        Administrator
                                        • 06-10-10
                                        • 61228

                                        #194
                                        Originally posted by mpaschal34
                                        Oh sh!t....did I do something stupid or wrong?

                                        Should have known it wasn't that easy. I'm off to find an underground dude to change my identity.
                                        No, you just did the 'normal' thing lots of people do.

                                        Coinbase ban the use of funds bought or sold there to go/come from a gambling site.

                                        They have banned quite a few accounts in the past.

                                        Basically, use blockchain.info/wallet at the place to receive bitcoin from books or SBR or anything gambling related... and only send it on to Coinbase from there if you are wanting to change it for US$ to cashout.


                                        Truth is that the system has changed to the point that Coinbase 'probably' can't link wallet addresses to books any more... and they havent banned anyone in quite a while. But still the advice is to not flout their rules when we dont need to.

                                        Originally posted by khicks26
                                        So to use BTC from the store. You need a Coinbase account & a Blockchian account? The store will send the BTC to your Coinbase account & you then send it to your Blockchain account? Then you can send it to a Book? Is this correct?
                                        You sound like you have an extra step in there for no reason.

                                        Buy from SBR and send to a private wallet (blockchain.info/wallet or maybe an Electrum desktop wallet)... after that you can either send it to a book as a depsoit, or send it to somewhere like Coinbase to sell it and cash out for US$.
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                                        • mpaschal34
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 02-04-13
                                          • 12086

                                          #195
                                          Thanks for the info JP21 and Opti. It wasn't that much money so the odds of me getting enough to cash out are slim.

                                          Guess I can put the stop to my Ron Mexico drivers license.
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                                          • khicks26
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 09-16-06
                                            • 45575

                                            #196
                                            Originally posted by Optional
                                            No, you just did the 'normal' thing lots of people do.

                                            Coinbase ban the use of funds bought or sold there to go/come from a gambling site.

                                            They have banned quite a few accounts in the past.

                                            Basically, use blockchain.info/wallet at the place to receive bitcoin from books or SBR or anything gambling related... and only send it on to Coinbase from there if you are wanting to change it for US$ to cashout.


                                            Truth is that the system has changed to the point that Coinbase 'probably' can't link wallet addresses to books any more... and they havent banned anyone in quite a while. But still the advice is to not flout their rules when we dont need to.



                                            You sound like you have an extra step in there for no reason.

                                            Buy from SBR and send to a private wallet (blockchain.info/wallet or maybe an Electrum desktop wallet)... after that you can either send it to a book as a depsoit, or send it to somewhere like Coinbase to sell it and cash out for US$.
                                            So SBR sends the BTC to your BlockChian wallet? But to get any winnings you need Coinbase?
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                                            • milwaukee mike
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 08-22-07
                                              • 26914

                                              #197
                                              Originally posted by Optional
                                              No, you just did the 'normal' thing lots of people do.

                                              Coinbase ban the use of funds bought or sold there to go/come from a gambling site.

                                              They have banned quite a few accounts in the past.

                                              Basically, use blockchain.info/wallet at the place to receive bitcoin from books or SBR or anything gambling related... and only send it on to Coinbase from there if you are wanting to change it for US$ to cashout.


                                              Truth is that the system has changed to the point that Coinbase 'probably' can't link wallet addresses to books any more... and they havent banned anyone in quite a while. But still the advice is to not flout their rules when we dont need to.



                                              You sound like you have an extra step in there for no reason.

                                              Buy from SBR and send to a private wallet (blockchain.info/wallet or maybe an Electrum desktop wallet)... after that you can either send it to a book as a depsoit, or send it to somewhere like Coinbase to sell it and cash out for US$.
                                              yeah i wouldn't worry too much about an extra step every time... if someone gets banned from coinbase they could just use kraken

                                              or gemini

                                              etc etc etc

                                              look at all the people that wasted that extra step with circle... and then circle quit bitcoin anyway, what a waste of time and effort for nothing
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                                              • milwaukee mike
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 08-22-07
                                                • 26914

                                                #198
                                                Originally posted by khicks26
                                                So SBR sends the BTC to your BlockChian wallet? But to get any winnings you need Coinbase?
                                                if you don't know what you're doing (like me)... just get a receiving address on coinbase and send it to that

                                                no reason to get paranoid over 1 transaction
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                                                • MeanPeopleSuck
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 04-29-17
                                                  • 950

                                                  #199
                                                  Originally posted by Optional
                                                  Are you really suggesting trying to scam SBR here?

                                                  I hope I am misunderstanding.
                                                  Scam? Are you kidding me?

                                                  Are you seriously saying you're discriminating against non US players ON PURPOSE?

                                                  What's the logic behind that, that we're superior to them because we happen to live in the USA?
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                                                  • khicks26
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 09-16-06
                                                    • 45575

                                                    #200
                                                    Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                    if you don't know what you're doing (like me)... just get a receiving address on coinbase and send it to that

                                                    no reason to get paranoid over 1 transaction
                                                    Not paranoid. If I won at the book I would get the Coinbase account to cash out. But if all I need is the wallet to play. I'm fine with that until I win.
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                                                    • reigle9
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 10-25-07
                                                      • 17879

                                                      #201
                                                      opti, want me to take a hammer to this guys hand or something?
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                                                      • USCPHILLYGUY
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 12-15-12
                                                        • 21744

                                                        #202
                                                        Originally posted by MeanPeopleSuck
                                                        Scam? Are you kidding me?

                                                        Are you seriously saying you're discriminating against non US players ON PURPOSE?

                                                        What's the logic behind that, that we're superior to them because we happen to live in the USA?
                                                        I'd like to buy $1000 worth from you....at 2 points a day that will only take me 1100 days...are we good
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                                                        • Optional
                                                          Administrator
                                                          • 06-10-10
                                                          • 61228

                                                          #203
                                                          Originally posted by khicks26

                                                          So SBR sends the BTC to your BlockChian wallet? But to get any winnings you need Coinbase?
                                                          Blockchain wallet is a independent wallet that you have complete control over.

                                                          Coinbase is an exchanger with a wallet attached that you have no control over.

                                                          If you choose to send from SBR or a book or some other place where you have no control over their wallet... and ask them to send your bitcoin to another wallet you have no control over, then if something goes wrong you cant even see what is happening let alone do anything.


                                                          Don't be lazy like Mike... use your own wallet that you control as your central/main wallet. Just get in the habit.

                                                          That said, what Mike said is probably true right now as well and you can just send direct from SBR or Book to Coinbase and nothing will happen... but we cant know that for sure.
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                                                          • milwaukee mike
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 08-22-07
                                                            • 26914

                                                            #204
                                                            Originally posted by MeanPeopleSuck
                                                            Scam? Are you kidding me?

                                                            Are you seriously saying you're discriminating against non US players ON PURPOSE?

                                                            What's the logic behind that, that we're superior to them because we happen to live in the USA?
                                                            us players have been the ones discriminated against for years

                                                            sportsbook cash is by far the best way to spend betpoints... and us players haven't been able to do that for quite a long time
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                                                            • milwaukee mike
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 08-22-07
                                                              • 26914

                                                              #205
                                                              Originally posted by Optional
                                                              Blockchain wallet is a independent wallet that you have complete control over.

                                                              Coinbase is an exchanger with a wallet attached that you have no control over.

                                                              If you choose to send from SBR or a book or some other place where you have no control over their wallet... and ask them to send your bitcoin to another wallet you have no control over, then if something goes wrong you cant even see what is happening let alone do anything.


                                                              Don't be lazy like Mike... use your own wallet that you control as your central/main wallet. Just get in the habit.

                                                              That said, what Mike said is probably true right now as well and you can just send direct from SBR or Book to Coinbase and nothing will happen... but we cant know that for sure.


                                                              yeah and while you're moving codes all over the place you can watch the price fluctuate $100 against you, that's always fun
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                                                              • JIBBBY
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 12-10-09
                                                                • 83686

                                                                #206
                                                                You spend alot in transfer fees over time when using a buffer especially if you are a loser and always needing to fund your accounts..

                                                                I do wonder how they can tell if a random bitcoin exchange address is traceable to a sports book?

                                                                I got lazy and impatient one time because Block Chain was experiencing delays.. Did this one straight Coinbase transfer one time a month ago to fund a new sportsbook account straight from coin base with no buffer.. I experienced no problems what so ever..
                                                                Last edited by JIBBBY; 09-11-17, 03:54 PM.
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                                                                • Optional
                                                                  Administrator
                                                                  • 06-10-10
                                                                  • 61228

                                                                  #207
                                                                  Originally posted by MeanPeopleSuck
                                                                  Scam? Are you kidding me?

                                                                  Are you seriously saying you're discriminating against non US players ON PURPOSE?

                                                                  What's the logic behind that, that we're superior to them because we happen to live in the USA?
                                                                  No I was not saying anything like that.

                                                                  I was a bit surprised that you were saying ignore SBR rules and just setup a VPN to work around them.

                                                                  And was asking you if I was mistaken thinking that is what you meant.

                                                                  I'm not sure why you want to get in my face right now... you have already received a pass for something I would ban others for on the spot normally. And then go on to tell people you will transfer the benefit to them to get around the rules. As Phillyguy said you are usually a good contributor and that is why you are still a member here after your posts, but dont make the mistake of suggesting people scam SBR again. You wont get a 2nd chance.
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                                                                  • Optional
                                                                    Administrator
                                                                    • 06-10-10
                                                                    • 61228

                                                                    #208
                                                                    Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                    You spend alot in transfer fees over time when using a buffer especially if you are a loser and always needing to fund your accounts..

                                                                    I do wonder how they can tell if a random bitcoin exchange address is traceable to a sports book?

                                                                    I got lazy and impatient one time because Block Chain was experiencing delays.. Did this one straight Coinbase transfer one time a month ago to fund a new account straight from coin base with no buffer.. No problem what so ever..
                                                                    I think they were originally doing it by looking for the wallets books used to consolidate deposits and once one big wallet is identified, work backwards from there to all previous transactions that ended up back at Coinbase.

                                                                    When wallets changed so that they held lots of addresses and issued a new ones for each transaction, I suspect Coinbase lost their ability to do the tracking as they had been.

                                                                    BTW, I dont think Coinbase want to police bitcoin usage. I think their main desire is to look like they are doing all that is required to meet their license conditions. Whilst they could track, they had to. Now if they cant, they just have to be able to show its no longer possible.


                                                                    I also think the feds are a lot less worried about gambling and taxing winnings than most people think. They have a hard on for bitcoin as it gives every normal person easy access to a "swiss style bank account" to hide bulk funds in.
                                                                    Last edited by Optional; 09-11-17, 04:04 PM.
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                                                                    • USCPHILLYGUY
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 12-15-12
                                                                      • 21744

                                                                      #209
                                                                      Opti...his acid washed jeans & sandals THROWING the hammer down
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                                                                      • 5mike5
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 09-21-11
                                                                        • 51967

                                                                        #210
                                                                        #dontfukkwithopti
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