Boxing: Pac vs Horn

[thetrinity]

did he get robbed guys?

He dominated the 9th round and the ref came to Horn's corner and told him the fight would be stopped if he didn't see anything from him.

Up to that point, personally, I thought it was pretty close. After that, Pac was gassed. Horn showed himself well the last 3 rounds.

I expected a close Pac decision. Guys are wound up because of the 117-111 scorecard and because the 9th round looked really bad for Horn.

Also, after the fight Pacman seemed to give 2 shits and quickly reminded everyone of the rematch clause if he lost, so it definitely looked shady. It was a great fight otherwise.

[ringemup]

Horn may have gotten the corrupt decision but within the boxing inner circles he is not validated because of the result. Anybody at the elite level will tell you he lost that fight and it wasn't all that close. Regardless it was an awkward opponent for Pac and his constant holding tactics and roughing tactics may have influenced the judges along with the crowd reactions and support for Horn. The blood dripping from Pac's head also may have slowed Pac down a bit and he had him hurt bad late but Horn got away with a lot of intentional holding to avoid getting countered on the way in and probably should have been deducted a point. A tough fighter he is but I do not think he is validated at all at the elite level of boxing within the community so a good night for him but he will soon find out that receiving a corrupt decision will have people coming at him from all angles although it isn't his fault.

[teaserpleaser]

Somebody made alot of money last night ....a lot of money.

Horn was what + 450

and im pretty sure horn by dec was +1250

[5mike5]

DDD had horn at +500

[Optional]

Check out this post from a couple of days ago on a boxing forum;

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=750878

I just noticed about Jeff Horn...

His style is a blend of Shane Mosley and Roy Jones Jr.

The problem - the BIG problem - is he's nowhere near or as fast as either fighter. Their styles require speed, and Horn is way too slow. Barely touched a 40-year old Randall Bailey, but he certainly did try.

He's very effective in the trench - but Manny prefers to fight at range more often than not.

He eats punches so he can land his own - but Manny only needs to land one.

Add to that the fact he's never been on a really big stage like this.


On the flip, he's ranked #2 by the WBO, same as Bradley when he fought Manny the first time - and that was also assumed to be a mismatch. We saw what happened there.

And one of the judges is Waleska Roldan - the same Waleska Roldan who gave a gift to Heather Hardy in 2014.

Ref is Mark Nelson - the same ref who took a flush right from Hugo Centeno Jr. and wiped it off - but doesn't like inside fighting. Jeff's strongest weapon.


Something smells about Arum picking this guy. I wouldn't put money on it, but I would not be shocked to see a repeat of Pacquiao/Bradley I.

[teaserpleaser]

Nice find optional...

[GoBlue77]

so manny pulverized Horn's face so badly in round 9 the ref wanted to stop the fight

Horn was beaten bloody

manny landed a much higher percentage and also more punches overall

the only real damage horn did to pacquaio was with head butts

and yeah it's 117-111 horn

summed it up perfectly. thats boxing. the most corrupt "sport" there is and why nobody gives a damn about it anymore

i hope the mob was in on the fix otherwise some of these judges and commission folks are going to find a nice car bomb in their future. DONT mess with folks money boxing...

[yisman]

In front of 51,052, Pacquiao lost a hard fought fight via a controversial unanimous decision when the three judges scored it 117-111, 115-113, 115-113 in favor of Horn. Many pundits, current and former boxers believed Pacquiao had done enough to retain the WBO title. Although Horn was the aggressor and showed determination throughout the fight, it nearly came to an end in round 9 when Pacquiao took control and looked for the stoppage. Horn lasted the round and was told by referee Mark Nelson, that he needs to show competitiveness or he would stop the fight.
Despite now having lost five of his last nine fights, Pacquiao remained humble, “I’m professional. I respect the judges.”
It was reported that Horn would receive $500,000 from this fight and Pacquiao was guaranteed at least $10 million. Pacquiao stated he would activate the rematch clause and fight Horn again at the end of 2017. Compubox stats showed that Pacquiao landed 182 out of 573 punches thrown (32%), whilst Horn landed 92 of 625 thrown (15%).^[11][12]
In regards to the controversial scorecards, ESPN's Dan Rafael scored the fight 117-111 and ESPN analyst scored it 116-111, both for Pacquiao. The Guardian also scored the fight 117-111 in favor of Pacquiao. CBS Sports scored the fight 114-114 even. IBT scored the fight 117-111 for Pacquiao.<sup>[13][14][15][16]



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manny_..._vs._Jeff_Horn</sup>

[slayer14]

[DiggityDaggityDo]

[Thor4140]

the said part is that none of you realize who is the main culprit and that would be the books who win all these corrupt decisions. On another note why is Manny always fighting these guys twice his size? Especially at his age.

[Thor4140]

not one ten eight in the 9th round. Interesting

[Thor4140]

Steven A Smith was going on a rant and rightfully so but than he said this didn't happen in the UFC. LOL. Shit happens all the time.

[INVEGA MAN]

I missed a good fight. How much did it cost?

[Sam Losco]

judges gave it to horn so brock landers would lose an $1800 bet

[Thor4140]

I missed a good fight. How much did it cost?

WWE network showed it for 9.99

[Biff41]

Steven A Smith was going on a rant and rightfully so but than he said this didn't happen in the UFC. LOL. Shit happens all the time.

Steve Smith needs two drama queen episodes a week to keep his ratings up. Pacman is one fight away from retirement. Sorry I'm not buying the whole disaster to boxing senario.

[Optional]

Hmm that's interesting

Not a single round where the 'corrupt' judge wasn't agreed with by at least one of the other two.

[Biff41]

judges gave it to horn so brock landers would lose an $1800 bet

Finally some clarity on this boxing match

[DiggityDaggityDo]

judges gave it to horn so brock landers would lose an $1800 bet

[eidolon]

Steven A Smith was going on a rant and rightfully so but than he said this didn't happen in the UFC. LOL. Shit happens all the time.

I kept muting and then turned off the tv once he started talking. Why did they have him on there?

[Darkside Magick]

I kept muting and then turned off the tv once he started talking. Why did they have him on there?

Didn't understand why he was there...where was max kellerman ?

[Thor4140]

Geez bring up S Smith and the whole topic changes. I'm not sure why this guy has such a huge impact on others lives.

[Plaza23]

Also, after the fight Pacman seemed to give 2 shits and quickly reminded everyone of the rematch clause if he lost, so it definitely looked shady. It was a great fight otherwise.

I'm surprised anyone in this thread think the decision by the Judges was just an honest mistake. This was a clear fixed outcome and Manny himself was in on it. It's why when he was asked about it, he didn't say "I know i won that fight", he said "have to respect the decision of the judges and we will have a rematch later this year". This was nothing but a fixed outcome match meant to ensure 2 more money fights for Manny (both on PPV - since this one was free). It's a carbon copy of what happened with Bradley, except the first Pac-Bradley was way more one-sided than this one. This fight, Pac clearly won, but it was still fairly close. The Pac-Bradley fight was a farce. Pac won every around that fight and that judges still said he lost.

[PaperTrail07]

As fixed as it gets LOL....boxing

I'm surprised anyone in this thread think the decision by the Judges was just an honest mistake. This was a clear fixed outcome and Manny himself was in on it. It's why when he was asked about it, he didn't say "I know i won that fight", he said "have to respect the decision of the judges and we will have a rematch later this year". This was nothing but a fixed outcome match meant to ensure 2 more money fights for Manny (both on PPV - since this one was free). It's a carbon copy of what happened with Bradley, except the first Pac-Bradley was way more one-sided than this one. This fight, Pac clearly won, but it was still fairly close. The Pac-Bradley fight was a farce. Pac won every around that fight and that judges still said he lost.

[Grits n' Gravy]

Somebody made alot of money last night ....a lot of money.

Horn was what + 450

and im pretty sure horn by dec was +1250

+1250 was long gone weeks prior to the fight.

Fight was a coin toss if you watch it with the sound off. Everyone on the broadcast aside from Bradley was biased for Manny. Punch stats are irrelevant. They are recorded by a person in the crowd.

Manny will get his revenge in Phillippines and then get ko'd in his final fight vs Crawford.

[Optional]

Manny will get his revenge in Phillippines and then get ko'd in his final fight vs Crawford.

It will be tough to justify a Phillipines rematch when Jones won and the money men know they can probably get 70,000+ paying premium money to be there in Australia next time.

[yisman]

Jones?

You mean Horn?

[Optional]

Jones?

You mean Horn?

Yeah.

Thanks