BetOnline trying to screw me out of $77,000 Slot winnings (claiming technical issue)

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  • msutter
    SBR MVP
    • 03-14-07
    • 1162

    #1
    BetOnline trying to screw me out of $77,000 Slot winnings (claiming technical issue)
    Edit by OP:

    I just talked to Robert guys. He emailed me a massive excel spread sheet showing my Demi Gods slot play history. What was happening was whenever I had a win I was being rewarded my win amount + my bet amount. I was still seeing my balance fluctuate up and down because on a losing spin I would get nothing. He apologized for not having all the information at hand when we spoke over the phone yesterday. He also apologized for the mishandled software integration that led me to think I had won a small fortune lol.

    He was extremely professional and apologetic. He let me know that he values my business and doesn't want to lose me as a customer. We are currently in discussions about compensation for the mishap so I can at least walk away from this with something. Thanks again for all the support guys! SBR and the entire forum community helped me tremendously and I'll never forget that.

    Wish you gents all the best in your gambling endeavors and life!
    _______


    I was playing the online slot game Demi Gods at BetOnline for around 8+ hours straight on the early morning of Thursday April 27th. I proceeded to win a total of $76 863.30. I started off betting $5 in the very beginning but quickly started pressing my bet. The majority of my spins were between $80 and $150 per spin. After finishing my session I tried cashing out for the maximum $10,000. I was notified later that my cash out had been cancelled until a 24 hour account review was completed. 24 hours later I tried cashing out again. This time it was cancelled because I was told I had cashed out $300 earlier in the week and was told I needed to wait two days to withdraw $10k or I could request a $9,700 payment. I requested the $9,700 and once again my payout was cancelled. I was told this time that my casino play was going to be under review and they would get back to me in the next 72 hours.

    I received an email today saying that there was a recent casino software issue and it unfortunately affected my account. Of course the issue has now been fixed and I'm free to play lol. They confiscated all of my winnings, but gave me $250 as a good gesture (Great Guys!).

    I just spoke with Robert the Players Club manager over the phone. He tried telling me the same thing about how they had a technical issue last week and how it was fixed. I said that I didn't hear anything on the gambling sites I frequent about there being any kind of casino software glitch with BetOnline. I told him that the slot software is programmed by betsoft and has already been tested endlessly before being released. I told him I played this game many times at other casinos like Bovada. It's not a new game that was just released. He said that it was new to BetOnline and when they uploaded it to their skin there must have been a problem. I then let him know that this wasn't the first time I had played this game at BetOnline either. He seemed kind of stumped. Then he tried telling me that everytime I bet whatever amount my bet per spin was automatically got counted as a win towards my account. I told him this was completely false. I was fluctuating up and down just like any normal slot play. I was fluctuating up and down thousands of dollars so this narrative of his was completely false. He seemed rattled and said he was going to look at some more data and get back to me.

    Please help me with this SBR. These guys are trying to hose me for a lot of money.
    Last edited by SBR Forum; 05-02-17, 07:43 PM. Reason: edited by user
  • msutter
    SBR MVP
    • 03-14-07
    • 1162

    #2
    Here's the email...

    Dear Mr. Sutter
    My name is Robert and I’m the Player Services Manager at BetOnline.
    I’m contacting you about a recent issue we had with our Casino software which unfortunately affected your account. This was an entirely technical issue which has now been completely solved but resulted in unearned winnings being added to your account.
    As per our site rules we will void all activity on your account which was a direct result of this technical error and so will be return your account balance to $88.88
    BetOnline cannot be held responsible for any computer, typing or human error when posting odds, lines or point spreads. However, in the case of obvious mechanical, technical or human error in the prices or conditions we publish, we reserve the right, at our discretion, to correct obvious errors and to No-Action your wager
    These rules can be referenced here: https://www.betonline.ag/rules#general
    Please accept my deepest apologies for the inconvenience caused and you will find an additional $250 cash credit in your to your account.
    Thank you for your patience and understanding and please don’t hesitate to get back in touch if I can be of any further assistance.
    Robert
    Player Services Department
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    • msutter
      SBR MVP
      • 03-14-07
      • 1162

      #3
      How does software that is created by Betsoft and can be played at many different online casinos decide to automatically go rogue and change it's code mysteriously on BetOnline during my session play only? I see nothing online through google about any other players having problems with BetOnline's slot software. Why is the players manager making up shit on the phone telling me that I was winning on every spin when this is completely a lie. I'm so pissed off right now. Fuk.

      Are there casino glitches where players lose more than they should as well??? hmmmm....does that ever get investigated???
      Last edited by msutter; 05-01-17, 06:20 PM.
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      • Fidel_CashFlow
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 12-03-12
        • 53970

        #4
        sore losers, but thats what you get for playing casino online
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        • Dirty Sanchez
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 03-01-10
          • 16031

          #5
          $5 into 77 grand....something tells me there's a bunch missing from this story....there always is
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          • Pinoy-T-X
            SBR MVP
            • 10-28-12
            • 2176

            #6
            You won $76,863.30?
            wow! ��
            Thats messed up they gonna do you like that.
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            • msutter
              SBR MVP
              • 03-14-07
              • 1162

              #7
              Originally posted by Dirty Sanchez
              $5 into 77 grand....something tells me there's a bunch missing from this story....there always is
              Was betting $5 per spin in the very beginning, but rose it to $10 per spin after I got up to $500 or so. Then kept pressing it.

              Started with $100. Had pissed $1500 away the day before playing poker and had $100 left. Said penetrate it lets dust off this last $100 trying my luck in slots. I've played online slots many times at BetOnline before. Usually lose, but sometimes win. I have plenty of pictures during my run as I was texting friends with pictures celebrating
              Last edited by msutter; 05-01-17, 06:31 PM.
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              • USCPHILLYGUY
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 12-15-12
                • 21744

                #8
                So you started with $88 in your account (as per email) and it ballooned to 77k?

                Come on man
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                • No coincidences
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-18-10
                  • 76300

                  #9
                  You played an on-line slots game for more than 8 hours straight?

                  Hope you get your money, but this place always makes me feel better about my gambling addiction.
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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388189

                    #10
                    Maybe kid saw flaw in software


                    Slots not beatable like that for 8 straight hours
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                    • msutter
                      SBR MVP
                      • 03-14-07
                      • 1162

                      #11
                      Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
                      So you started with $88 in your account (as per email) and it ballooned to 77k?

                      Come on man
                      No shit I was running good...but it's not like I was betting $2 a spin guy. 3 hours of my play was on auto spin at $150 per spin... Obviously if you run good playing big winning $77,000 or more is possible...
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                      • klemopixx
                        SBR MVP
                        • 10-02-14
                        • 3806

                        #12
                        Usually when you win at slots, it comes in one or two big hits. NEVER have I seen anyone hit time and time again, letting their wins grow at that rate. When you do get a machine that pays out a lot it basically lets you double or at best, triple your winnings before it goes cold.


                        Not trying to bust your bubble but that's a rare win. I hope you get your winnings!
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                        • msutter
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-14-07
                          • 1162

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jjgold
                          Maybe kid saw flaw in software


                          Slots not beatable like that for 8 straight hours
                          I've played this game many times before. It wasn't flawed then, but now all of a sudden the code magically changed in the player's favor??? come on? Where are all the other people online that got affected by this from BetOnline? I guess it's just a software glitch when you win big right? These games have already gone through massive amounts of testing before being released by the publisher. The code doesn't magically change itself for someones winning slot session
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                          • msutter
                            SBR MVP
                            • 03-14-07
                            • 1162

                            #14
                            You guys don't think it's strange that the Player's manager was making up random shiat when I was on the phone with him? First it was a brand new game and the code must have changed when betsoft uploaded the game to their skin??? Then when I let him know that it wasn't the first time I've played Demi Gods there he changed his narrative that I was winning the amount I bet on every spin... This was entirely false...I fluctuated up and down just like any regular slot.. Now he needs to go "get more data" before he talks with me...wtf.....
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                            • slayer14
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 08-12-13
                              • 22007

                              #15
                              Its a Costa Rican bookie they lack the facilities
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                              • msutter
                                SBR MVP
                                • 03-14-07
                                • 1162

                                #16
                                Originally posted by slayer14
                                Its a Costa Rican bookie they lack the facilities
                                No. They're in Panama City
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                                • senseionline
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-20-10
                                  • 1819

                                  #17
                                  did you hit the jackpot? sound like software glitch your not push luck
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                                  • msutter
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 03-14-07
                                    • 1162

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by senseionline
                                    did you hit the jackpot? sound like software glitch your not push luck
                                    No Jackpots...Biggest win I had was a bonus in a bonus round for around $6-7K.
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                                    • Dirty Sanchez
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 03-01-10
                                      • 16031

                                      #19
                                      I suggest you fill out a Complaint form and let SBR look into it:
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                                      • slayer14
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 08-12-13
                                        • 22007

                                        #20
                                        some guy on betfair never got the full payout

                                        https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/345233...ed-to-pay-out/
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                                        • jjgold
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388189

                                          #21
                                          Fill out complaint form


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                                          • msutter
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-14-07
                                            • 1162

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                            I did that before venting on here. Such a helpless feeling blah
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                                            • Kermit
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 09-27-10
                                              • 32555

                                              #23
                                              I am sure if you would have lost that they would have credited your account back due to the software error.
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                                              • msutter
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 03-14-07
                                                • 1162

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Kermit
                                                I am sure if you would have lost that they would have credited your account back due to the software error.
                                                Oh..for sure Kermit. These offshore sportsbook operators are Men of the utmost integrity
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                                                • vividjohn45
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 11-21-10
                                                  • 6331

                                                  #25
                                                  New Jersey has legal online slots. At this point sounds like a offshore burn
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                                                  • TheMoneyShot
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 02-14-07
                                                    • 28672

                                                    #26
                                                    Sutter is one of the good guys here. Even though he doesn't post much.

                                                    I hope you get something out of this man. I hate seeing situations like this involving online software.
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                                                    • msutter
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 03-14-07
                                                      • 1162

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                      Sutter is one of the good guys here. Even though he doesn't post much.

                                                      I hope you get something out of this man. I hate seeing situations like this involving online software.
                                                      Thx for the support Money. Much appreciated
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                                                      • playersonly69
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 01-04-08
                                                        • 12827

                                                        #28
                                                        Something was wrong with the software that is for sure. I might understand if you said that you won 2 $50,000 jackpots and then lost some of it back. But consistently winning betting at $150 per spin just doesnt happen
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                                                        • msutter
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 03-14-07
                                                          • 1162

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by playersonly69
                                                          Something was wrong with the software that is for sure. I might understand if you said that you won 2 $50,000 jackpots and then lost some of it back. But consistently winning betting at $150 per spin just doesnt happen
                                                          It wasn't consistently winning. There were plenty of fluctuations. I dropped around 5K multiple times. Still ran extremely good obviously, but there are so many occasions where I've ran extremely bad and lost thousands of dollars. Is it literally not possible to run good in slots for several hours?
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                                                          • JIBBBY
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 12-10-09
                                                            • 83691

                                                            #30
                                                            I've been with betonline for years and I've never had a problem with payouts.. Then again I never turned $5 into $77,000 on slots in 5 hours.. I did once play Bovada on slots with my $200 play casino bonus and hit for $1800 last year.. The next month I cashed out and there was no problem but that was after betting $1000's on sports.....

                                                            First off I would have waited to try and cash out if I were you for that $77,000, maybe even tried to lose 20 grand and then try to cash out 4-6 months later.. Let some time pass. You might have had better luck then.. Trying to cash out same day on a HUGE win like that I wouldn't try anyways. Lucky you didn't get locked out and you got the $250.....

                                                            My 2 cents.. I don't play those Casino games on my real books unless it's bonus casino play..
                                                            Last edited by JIBBBY; 05-01-17, 07:24 PM.
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                                                            • msutter
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 03-14-07
                                                              • 1162

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                              I've been with betonline for years and I've never had a problem with payouts.. Then again I never turned $5 into $77,000 on slots in 5 hours.. I did once play Bovada on slots with a free my $200 play casino bonus and hit for $1800.. The next month I cashed out and there was no problem but that was after betting $1000's on sports.....

                                                              First off I would have waited to try and cash out if I were you for that $77,000, maybe even tried to lose 20 grand and then try to cash out 4-6 months later.. Let some time pass. You might have had better luck then.. Trying to cash out same day on a HUGE win like that I wouldn't try anyways. Lucky you didn't get locked out and you got the $250.....

                                                              My 2 cents.. I don't play those Casino games on my real books unless it's bonus casino play..
                                                              I've never had a problem with BetOnline as far as payouts either, but of course I've never tried cashing out more than $2K. I'm literally never playing slots again after this (dumb in the first place I know). One of my good friends is a slot technician at our local casino and he's telling me there's no way there is a software glitch. The slot code doesn't change. He's calling bullshit
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                                                              • SBRMAN23
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 01-07-11
                                                                • 6904

                                                                #32
                                                                wow sick that they can do things like this with no authority gl man
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                                                                • biggie12
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 12-30-05
                                                                  • 13784

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Cool story bro
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                                                                  • dlowilly
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 11-09-16
                                                                    • 13862

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I looked up Robert and he was recently promoted from dealer to Player Services Manager. Here's his picture, looks like a stand up guy:

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                                                                    • msutter
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 03-14-07
                                                                      • 1162

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I have to go to work unfortunately...I'll probably post pictures tomorrow once I figure out how. I have pictures showing my total balance and bet per spin during the progression of my slot session.
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