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  • maggiethebestdog
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    • 12-21-13
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    #176
    Originally posted by khicks26
    fas·cism
    ˈfaSHˌizəm/
    noun
    [COLOR=#878787 !important][/COLOR]
    • an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
      synonyms: authoritarianism, totalitarianism, dictatorship, despotism, autocracy; More







      • (in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.








    By the definition alone it fits Trump. But here is a list if you need more insight. Read it & we can apply them to Trump if you like.

    Fourteen Defining
    Characteristics Of Fascism
    By Dr. Lawrence Britt
    Source Free Inquiry.co
    5-28-3


    Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each: 1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays. 2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc. 3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc. 4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespreaddomestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized. 5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution. 6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common. 7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses. 8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions. 9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite. 10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed. 11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked. 12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations. 13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders. 14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections. From Liberty Forum
    I know what fascism is. Typical condescending liberal. I need to now the actual reality of what Trump has done or said that puts him into that definition. I dont see it even as close. It is sensationalism with no specifics. You said he has fascist tendencies. Give SPECIFIC EXAMPLES. I know that lying fear mongers aren't capable of proving what they say. You are just proving it for me.
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    • khicks26
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      • 09-16-06
      • 45704

      #177
      Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
      I just want you to show me the fascist tendencies with examples in reality. You throw the word around pretty loosley so I need specific examples. I don't see it. He has a billion flaws but in this day and age people who use the terms fascist and racist every other word have to be held accountable and prove it.
      Just wanted to add that when capitalism breaks down, which it has with the 2008 crash. Countries will turn to a form of fascism with a strong hand to maintain order.
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      • khicks26
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 09-16-06
        • 45704

        #178
        Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
        I know what fascism is. Typical condescending liberal. I need to now the actual reality of what Trump has done or said that puts him into that definition. I dont see it even as close. It is sensationalism with no specifics. You said he has fascist tendencies. Give SPECIFIC EXAMPLES. I know that lying fear mongers aren't capable of proving what they say. You are just proving it for me.
        If you can't read that list & apply it to Trump. Then like I said, your not paying attention.

        I don't have time right now, your asking for at the least an hours worth of work. Will get get back to you. But I know already I am wasting my time.
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        • maggiethebestdog
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          • 12-21-13
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          #179
          Originally posted by khicks26
          Just wanted to add that when capitalism breaks down, which it has with the 2008 crash. Countries will turn to a form of fascism with a strong hand to maintain order.
          That has nothing to do with Trump.
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          • khicks26
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            • 09-16-06
            • 45704

            #180
            Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
            That has nothing to do with Trump.
            I never said he was the cause. He's the effect.
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            • maggiethebestdog
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              • 12-21-13
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              #181
              Originally posted by khicks26
              If you can't read that list & apply it to Trump. Then like I said, your not paying attention.

              I don't have time right now, your asking for at the least an hours worth of work. Will get get back to you. But I know already I am wasting my time.
              Just show 1 thing that proves what you say. I am the one wasting my time. Funny how people who claim things are so obvious can never come up with any proof.
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              • maggiethebestdog
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                • 12-21-13
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                #182
                While I am waiting for a factless reply, you listed one big fascist element is controlling the media. The media in this country leans so far left they couldn't even control themselves on election night. Cbs, abc, nbc, cnn, msnbc and every left wing rag ran unfactual hit pieces on Trump while ignoring the most corrupt person in the country that happened to be running as well. Fox news is biased, but the media has always been extremely left. They used phony poll numbers to influence the vote and got exposed. The left is fascist and you accuse Trump of it.
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                • khicks26
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                  • 09-16-06
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                  #183
                  Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                  While I am waiting for a factless reply, you listed one big fascist element is controlling the media. The media in this country leans so far left they couldn't even control themselves on election night. Cbs, abc, nbc, cnn, msnbc and every left wing rag ran unfactual hit pieces on Trump while ignoring the most corrupt person in the country that happened to be running as well. Fox news is biased, but the media has always been extremely left. They used phony poll numbers to influence the vote and got exposed. The left is fascist and you accuse Trump of it.

                  Never mind, now I know I;m wasting my time, Fox news is biased. LOL
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                  • daneblazer
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                    • 09-14-08
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                    #184
                    Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                    The liberal playbook. Race baiting. Gender baiting. Gay baiting. Immigrant baiting and Muslim baiting. When that all fails, compare everyone that doesn't accept that crap to Hitler. That is why libs lost the election. People are tired of the lies.
                    Sure seems that way sometimes
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                    • opie1988
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                      • 09-12-10
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                      #185
                      I feel like Stealthy is clearly gay baiting us here.

                      Stealth is a big gay baiter.
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                      • Fire in da hole
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                        • 09-29-10
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                        #186
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                        • Sam Odom
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                          • 10-30-05
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                          #187
                          that kid can sing
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                          • Fire in da hole
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                            • 09-29-10
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                            #188
                            yeah, he has a number of other songs that are pretty good as well.
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                            • gojetsgomoxies
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                              • 09-04-12
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                              #189
                              Originally posted by astro61200
                              I get where they are coming from, as they probably only associate with like minded people and thus they feel like because everyone they know voted for Clinton, then there must be something going on for her to lose. They fail to understand the Electoral College, and either won't listen to why it's necessary, or could careless about anyone over 100 miles away.
                              great comment............ i think the #1 problem with millenials is that they've been brainwashed by liberal teachers since they were very young. they have zero doubt that they are correct and have no respect for dissenting opinions.

                              i live in Canada which basically liberal country..... two people/movements that really bother me are David Suzuki and the We forums for school children....

                              Suzuki, one of the world's leading environmentalists, never ever gets challenged by semi like-minded people on anything he says... as an example, he thinks that Japan should have relied on alternative energy the last 45 years... the statement is so LOL, especially coming from an expert. but no liberal/environmentalists called him on it.

                              the WE movement stuff is pushing propaganda on school children plain and simple.... reminds me of a grade 10 science teacher who challeged us to "open our minds" and then was very dismissive on non-liberal thinking.

                              lastly, and this may not be that important, but bill clinton, schwarzeneger sp? and jfk all completely abused women in their lifetimes but no millenials/liberals seem to care an iota about it.......... but trump, well he's a misogynist LOL
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                              • gojetsgomoxies
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                                • 09-04-12
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                                #190
                                to the poster who said hilary got killed, she won the popular vote and would have won the election with under 1% more of the popular vote. wisc/mich/penn was all very close.

                                strikes me that liberals have almost become like preachers........ nothing they say can ever be questioned because they consider themselves factually right and morally right... and people hate that.
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                                • maggiethebestdog
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                                  • 12-21-13
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                                  #191
                                  Originally posted by khicks26
                                  Never mind, now I know I;m wasting my time, Fox news is biased. LOL
                                  Fox news isn't biased??? WTF is wrong with you?? I concede they are all right wing. You must concede that the media has always been left biased. I think you are losing it because you have to actually prove the nonsense you are spewing and can't do it.
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                                  • khicks26
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                                    • 09-16-06
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                                    #192
                                    Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                    Fox news isn't biased??? WTF is wrong with you?? I concede they are all right wing. You must concede that the media has always been left biased. I think you are losing it because you have to actually prove the nonsense you are spewing and can't do it.
                                    NO I'm not losing it. Most of the media in the US including print is owed by 6 large corporations. So what your getting is the corporate narrative. If you think its left wing or not doesn't matter. Its not news its infotainment & opinion. They are never going to tell you the whole story. Only what they want you to hear. Yes this means Fox also. Take it for what it is.

                                    No point in spewing anything at you. Fox news is biased. LOL
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                                    • maggiethebestdog
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                                      • 12-21-13
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                                      #193
                                      Wow. I said Fox was right wing. That means biased. If you are telling me the media is not left wing then you are retarded. You still have not given 1 example of the baseless fear mongering names you have used for Trump. Until you do so STFU.
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                                      • rkelly110
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                                        • 10-05-09
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                                        #194
                                        Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                        Wow. I said Fox was right wing. That means biased. If you are telling me the media is not left wing then you are retarded. You still have not given 1 example of the baseless fear mongering names you have used for Trump. Until you do so STFU.
                                        Come on Margaret, do you need Trump to explain EVERYTHING for you, sheep?
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                                        • Russian Rocket
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                                          • 09-02-12
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                                          #195
                                          Originally posted by rkelly110
                                          Come on Margaret, do you need Trump to explain EVERYTHING for you, sheep?
                                          Gotta love this lowlife is trying to call others sheep, after he's been labeled the biggest sheeple on this entire damn board.




                                          We're talking about the same braindead clown who thought that he can help Killary win the election with this shit on his fukking tree.

                                          Originally posted by rkelly110
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                                          • jtoler
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                                            • 12-17-13
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                                            #196
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                                            • rkelly110
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                                              #197
                                              Originally posted by Russian Rocket
                                              Gotta love this lowlife is trying to call others sheep, after he's been labeled the biggest sheeple on this entire damn board.




                                              We're talking about the same braindead clown who thought that he can help Killary win the election with this shit on his fukking tree.
                                              Funny how I was the only one who posted a pic of HIS sign, eh rocket boy? Big balls.......triggered.
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                                              • grease lightnin
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                                                • 10-01-12
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                                                #198
                                                Russian can you make a meme with my name on it?
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                                                • khicks26
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                                                  • 09-16-06
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                                                  #199
                                                  Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                                  Wow. I said Fox was right wing. That means biased. If you are telling me the media is not left wing then you are retarded. You still have not given 1 example of the baseless fear mongering names you have used for Trump. Until you do so STFU.
                                                  I know some retarded guys. If you called them that they would break you in half. So STFU

                                                  I will not give you an example because you watch Fox News.

                                                  Their is no left wing media when it comes to issues that matter. All the media does is preach the government & parties agenda. Since we don't have a left wing party, we don't have a left wing media.
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                                                  • bigtymer56
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                                                    • 07-31-12
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                                                    #200
                                                    Originally posted by Cuse0323
                                                    Campaign Trump is different from President Trump. It will disappoint some, but he will use common sense as a President. All illegals aren't going to be shipped out. The wall has been in play for years. Though, it may be a virtual wall, with some physical attributes.

                                                    Everyone who is freaking out just needs to relax. I enjoy seeing those who identify themselves as Liberal, like Stealthy, take a deep breath and relax. It's refreshing, and what the majority is doing. These protesters can release their angst, but it's going too far. There is no logic behind destroying parts of your city. Especially when you live in a highly Liberal area, full of Hillary voters. Essentially destroying businesses, and property of those on your side.

                                                    We will be fine. Unless the Country wants to stay divided. People can protest, throw their temper tantrums, and whatnot. In the end, everything will be okay. Hey, it may even be better. This is why we voted him in. We need change. Most importantly, everyone needs to come together for the bigger cause. The USA, and its success in domestic, and foreign affairs.

                                                    Obama ran on change, and tapped into a similar group. I won't get into my thoughts on him, but I got fully behind him, and hoping for a better America. Now the other side needs to do the same with Trump.
                                                    So Trump said all that awful shit during the campaign... because he knew there was enough awful people around that it would appeal to?

                                                    Boy, I feel so much better now.
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                                                    • maggiethebestdog
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                                                      • 12-21-13
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                                                      #201
                                                      Originally posted by khicks26
                                                      I know some retarded guys. If you called them that they would break you in half. So STFU

                                                      I will not give you an example because you watch Fox News.

                                                      Their is no left wing media when it comes to issues that matter. All the media does is preach the government & parties agenda. Since we don't have a left wing party, we don't have a left wing media.
                                                      Wow. What is wrong with you. I said Fox is all right wing. Where are you getting I watch them and believe them? So Hillary and Obama are not left wing?? Maybe you should re-check that. You can play word games all you want but everyone knows that the media is mainly liberal and anti Republican. Call it what you want. Election night coverage exposed these frauds as they reacted to the results. And the repeating of fake polls that were never close to accurate was exposed.
                                                      Now they are giving credence to a bunch of terrorists who want to use violence to overthrow a democratically elected President and change the Constitution all because their hack lost. They also link senseless white bafoons commiting hate crimes with Trump. Just like you do. You still have not given 1 example of what you said about Trump. You can't. How pathetic is it that now I have not let you get away with the normal name calling by having you prove it, you play the retard card. How low can you go. The blame game knows no boundaries.
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                                                      • Russian Rocket
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                                                        • 09-02-12
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                                                        #202
                                                        Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                        Funny how I was the only one who posted a pic of HIS sign, eh rocket boy? Big balls.......triggered.
                                                        What a retard!!! More like a tiny brain triggered.
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                                                        • Russian Rocket
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                                                          #203
                                                          Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                                          Russian can you make a meme with my name on it?
                                                          PM me your best photo
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                                                          • thetrinity
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                                                            #204
                                                            Originally posted by Russian Rocket
                                                            Gotta love this lowlife is trying to call others sheep, after he's been labeled the biggest sheeple on this entire damn board.




                                                            We're talking about the same braindead clown who thought that he can help Killary win the election with this shit on his fukking tree.
                                                            yeah the definition of the pot calling the kettle black

                                                            rkelly is louis I
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                                                            • DwightShrute
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                                                              #205
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                                                              • SteelRain
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                                                                #206
                                                                Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                                Funny how I was the only one who posted a pic of HIS sign, eh rocket boy? Big balls.......triggered.
                                                                Most people get it if you don't like Trump but backing a highly corrupt literal warmonger under several FBI investigations is beyond me. It really speaks volumes of what kind of person you are.
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                                                                • rkelly110
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                                                                  #207
                                                                  Originally posted by SteelRain
                                                                  Most people get it if you don't like Trump but backing a highly corrupt literal warmonger under several FBI investigations is beyond me. It really speaks volumes of what kind of person you are.
                                                                  What kind of person I am? You know before Ryan became speaker, there was another guy running for that job
                                                                  by the name of McCarthy who flat out told reporters the Benghazi hearings were only to discredit Hillary?

                                                                  The Repub party didn't do a damn thing for 8 years and used Hillary as a diversion from them.

                                                                  Trump ran his campaign like a 10 yo bully on the playground. Maybe you should look in the mirror yourself.
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                                                                  • DwightShrute
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                                                                    #208
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                                                                    • stealthyburrito
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                                                                      #209
                                                                      Been hearing and reading some interesting stuff today. Called my mom and she told me that she would participate in a women's march against trump come Inauguration Day. If she feels that strongly good for her. I'd like to reiterate that despite my sentiments following this election, I empathize with those who are in the line of fire of trumps rhetoric - i.e. Immigrants, LGBTQ, minorities etc. If rhetoric turns out to be more than just that, they face a very scary time. But despite the results of this election, the country is indeed more liberal than it has ever been in its history. We have a system of checks and balances to counteract such action if he is indeed a "madman". Frankly, given the news that has come out recently regarding his policy positions, the "wall", the Iran nuclear deal, Obamacare I have cautious optimism he is not out to gut civil liberties.
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                                                                      • SteelRain
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                                                                        #210
                                                                        Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                                        Trump ran his campaign like a 10 yo bully on the playground.
                                                                        Yes he did. And I love him for it. He won and destroyed the Bush, Clinton and Obama dynasties in one full swoop. It really telling isn't it? How much neoliberal Marxist world order is deeply despised by the average person. Trump literally took the world on and not only won but won with such a resounding and crushing victory it left literally millions of hillary supporters in tears for days. Think about that for a minute. Take a deep and honest reflection on why you lost, have some introspection. Your strategy failed ask yourself why.
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