This bet should be, at least, 100 to 1. What am I missing??????

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  • Dan Kelly
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    • 02-19-11
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    #1
    This bet should be, at least, 100 to 1. What am I missing??????
    I just found this bet on Bookmaker.eu under "GOLF SPECIALS".

    WILL ANY PLAYER MAKE A HOLE-IN-ONE SKIPPING BALL ACROSS POND ON NO. 16 DURING WEDNESDAY PRACTICE ROUND?
    <small style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; position: relative; font-size: 12px;">11:16 AM</small>
    YES <label style="margin: 0px; padding: 0.75em; position: relative; font-size: 14px; text-align: center; display: block; cursor: pointer; border: 1px solid rgb(213, 213, 213); border-radius: 0.3em;">+685</label> ADDED
    NO <label style="margin: 0px; padding: 0.75em; position: relative; font-size: 14px; text-align: center; display: block; cursor: pointer; border: 1px solid rgb(213, 213, 213); border-radius: 0.3em;">-1415</label>
    There hasn&#8217;t been an ace yet this year during the practice round game, but the tradition of rocketing balls across the water is strong as ever at Augusta National.


    Best as I can tell, in the past few years there have been hundreds of practice rounds played on Wednesdays at the Masters and 2 have skipped a ball in to the hole on 16, I hate to lay 14 to 1 on anything, but this seems very wrong.

    Anyone have any insight.

    BoL
  • floridagolfer
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    • 12-19-08
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    #2
    "No" is the obvious way to go, but there are all kinds of fluke things that happen; why risk that much for a hundred bucks? Pass.
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    • unde0087
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      • 03-27-08
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      #3
      Ya, the chances of that happening are almost zero.
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      • trytrytry
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        • 03-13-06
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        #4
        interesting prop. unique anyway
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        • lilpete
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          • 02-03-15
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          #5
          the obvious choice is yes otherwise they wouldnt offer the bet
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          • TheMoneyShot
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            • 02-14-07
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            #6
            "Skipping the ball across the pond"

            What kind of sh@# are they coming up with now?
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            • pavyracer
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              • 04-12-07
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              #7
              How do you cap or model this crap?
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              • SharpAngles
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                • 04-15-14
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                #8
                Very weird number and oddly specific SKIPPING BALL ACROSS POND ON NO. 16 DURING WEDNESDAY PRACTICE ROUND?

                smells fishy... must be some bet between pros the books picked up on and fishing for suckers @-1415 but even if you're trying to hit that shot it can't be easy
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                • grease lightnin
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                  • 10-01-12
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                  #9
                  No fukking way. Anybody that plays golf knows that should be waaaaaay higher. At least 100 to 1
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                  • Breadloser
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                    • 03-16-16
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                    #10
                    Bookmaker is horrific. That's why.
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                    • TheMoneyShot
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by grease lightnin
                      No fukking way. Anybody that plays golf knows that should be waaaaaay higher. At least 100 to 1
                      I agree. More and more you look at this.... something is really weird about this prop.
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                      • unde0087
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                        How do you cap or model this crap?
                        You have go go out and measure each pond
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                        • Snowball
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                          #13
                          pin placement matters here.
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                          • sweethook
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                            • 11-21-07
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                            #14
                            yes 100-1 or 250 - 1
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                            • bruceBRUCEbruce
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                              #15
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                              • Jayvegas420
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                                #16
                                Holy shit Bruce.
                                Was that today?

                                So the -1400 was a loser?
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                                • SharpAngles
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                                  #17
                                  Moral of the story...

                                  When a book offers you a cupcake you better check that fker for broken glass
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                                  • Jayvegas420
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                                    #18
                                    How long till Lil Pete checks in????
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                                    • smoke a bowl
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                                      #19
                                      That was in 2009 I think.
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                                      • Jayvegas420
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                                        #20
                                        Oh. It was posted this morning.
                                        Is sighn even playing this week?
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                                        • smoke a bowl
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                                          #21
                                          Not sure but looks like it happened in 2009 and 2011 during practice rounds. Guessing if anything the yes is closer to a good bet than the no but feels like about +700 to +800 is the fair price here.
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                                          • smoke a bowl
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                                            #22
                                            I'm 100% that -1400ish is a losing bet longterm here.
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                                            • rm18
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                                              • 09-20-05
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                                              #23
                                              This is like when I bet Kobe and Shaq would not shake hands -600 sucker bet.
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                                              • Jayvegas420
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                                                #24
                                                Are the players allowed to hit as many balls as they want?
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                                                • trytrytry
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                                                  • 03-13-06
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                                                  #25
                                                  Published: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 | 9:13 a.m.







                                                  The Masters has so many great, fun traditions.
                                                  Two of those fun on-course traditions that come before the actual tournament proper begins are the Par 3 Contest and the skipping-the-ball-across-the-water on the par-3 16th hole during practice rounds.
                                                  Basically, after hitting their actual tee shots on No. 16, players go to the front of the tee box right at the water's edge. From there, they drop a ball, take a swing and skip the ball across the water to see who can come closest to the hole. The patrons love it.
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                                                  Well, on April 7, 2009, the patrons got an even bigger thrill than they bargained for.
                                                  On that day, 2000 Masters champion Vijay Singh did one better than skipping his ball across the water and onto the green.
                                                  Instead, he skipped it across the water, onto the green and into the hole.
                                                  Luckily for those of us who weren't there in person, a patron captured it on camera:
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                                                  • trytrytry
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                                                    #26
                                                    Published: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 | 10:40 a.m.





                                                    AUGUSTA, Ga. (AP) – The chants start as soon as each group has finished teeing off at the 16th hole.

                                                    "Skip! Skip! Skip!"

                                                    At Augusta National, this is the closest thing to a party.

                                                    "The fans get pretty irate when they don't skip the ball," said Masters patron Dave Goldbach of Buffalo, sipping on a beer as the final groups came through in the fading sunlight of Tuesday's practice round.

                                                    For many, this is the place to be before the first major of the year gets going for real, a chance to watch everyone from the biggest names in golf to unknown amateurs attempt to skip the ball off the water – the more times, the better – and land it safely on the green.

                                                    It's a technique roughly akin to throwing a smooth rock across a glassy pond. Only in this case, it's done with a 4-iron instead of a strong arm, after dropping a ball on the downslope in the second cut of grass between the tee box and the water on the 170-yard hole known as "Redbud," tucked back in a far corner of the course, about as far from the clubhouse as you can get.

                                                    The 16th – essentially a tee and a green connected by a narrow strand of water – has been the sight of many dramatic moments at the Masters, from Tiger Woods holing an improbable chip that carried him to the green jacket in 2005 to Greg Norman dumping his tee shot in the water to finish off a stunning collapse two decades ago.

                                                    There's nothing on the line during the practice rounds, which allowed for a tradition that dates to the 1980s and has become as much a part of the place as blooming azaleas and pimiento cheese sandwiches.

                                                    No one in an official capacity is quite sure when all this started, but former player Ken Green took credit for it during an interview with Golfweek.

                                                    Davis Love III played his first Masters in 1988. Even as more and more players took part, he refused for several years to join the skip-a-thon at No. 16, mindful that club founders Clifford Roberts and Bobby Jones likely would've frowned on those sort of hijinks.

                                                    "I didn't think it was in the tradition of the Masters," Love said. "Then I started getting booed."

                                                    Indeed, this is the one spot where the patrons, who are expected to be on their best behavior most of the week, can let down their hair just a bit. Not to say the heckling approaches anything you might hear coming from the bleachers at Yankee Stadium, but no one will be thrown off the grounds if they direct a hearty catcall at anyone who refuses to take part.

                                                    "When no one put a note in my locker saying not to do it," Love went on, "I decided it must be OK. So I started doing it again."

                                                    Now, as he prepares to play in his 20th Masters, the Ryder Cup captain has developed into one of the better ball-skippers. The 51-year-old showed off his form to a couple of younger players Tuesday, rocketing the ball into the water just a few feet past the bank to produce one towering bounce, followed by a couple of smaller hops that sent it bouncing onto the green.

                                                    Amateur Paul Chaplet, playing in his first Masters, decided to keep his ball low all the way.

                                                    Rookie mistake.

                                                    He got three short skips before his ball whacked the grassy bank at the other end of the pond, falling back into the water. There were shouts of "Again! Again!" but he merely smiled and began the walk of shame toward the green.

                                                    Chris Kirk also went for a shot that was never more than a few inches off the water. Same result, though he did score points for smacking a GoPro camera installed along the bank to provide a water-level perspective of the whole scene.

                                                    "I went for the low shot," Kirk said, grinning. "Davis goes with a higher ball. Obviously, his worked better than mine."

                                                    The fans really get into it, reminding Goldbach to bring up another 16th hole known for its boisterous shenanigans at the Phoenix Open. OK, so it's not that wild – c'mon, this is Augusta – but there are certainly plenty of etiquette-diminishing suds flowing among fans who pack the grandstands and the towering hill that provides a natural amphitheater for both the 16th and the adjacent sixth hole, also a par 3.

                                                    "It's an exciting aspect of watching a practice round," said Goldbach, attending his first Masters along with a friend, Roger Kapturowski. "There's an art to it. It's all in the technique."

                                                    Six-time Masters champion Jack Nicklaus would occasionally skip the ball at the 16th, but only when he was at the club working on his game the week before the tournament.

                                                    He never tried it in front of the patrons.

                                                    "I don't think I was good enough," the Golden Bear explained. "And I was too cheap. I didn't want to lose a golf ball."

                                                    These days, hardly anyone is willing to risk the wrath of the crowd by skipping the chance to skip.

                                                    "For some people, it's the only day they'll be here. It might be the only day they'll ever be here," Love said, standing outside the clubhouse after completing his practice round. "If you don't do it, you're going to let someone down."

                                                    Right then, Augusta National Chairman Billy Payne pulled up on a golf cart.

                                                    "Maybe we should ask the chairman if it's OK to skip the ball," Love suggested. "I wonder what he would think if we did it during the tournament."

                                                    What about it, Mr. Chairman?

                                                    "Can you do it during the tournament?" Payne repeated, pursing his lips and pausing for dramatic effect. "Only if it goes in."


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                                                    • Jeffie
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                                                      #27
                                                      Hole in one for Player!
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                                                      • jjgold
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                                                        #28
                                                        It's worth a shot because they're all great golfers and extremely accurate
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                                                        • dfish
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Jeffie
                                                          Hole in one for Player!
                                                          Wow, his 31st to boot.
                                                          The PGA of America is one of the world's largest sports organizations, composed of PGA of America Golf Professionals who work daily to grow interest and participation in the game of golf.
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                                                          • Jeffie
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by dfish
                                                            I know he's been playing for a long time but 31 is still incredible to me. Even great golfers won't even get 1 throughout life.
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                                                            • trytrytry
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Jeffie
                                                              Hole in one for Player!
                                                              luckily it did not Skip across the pond. it was the conventional type!
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                                                              • SharpAngles
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by trytrytry
                                                                luckily it did not Skip across the pond. it was the conventional type!
                                                                Lol... how much you get down on no?
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                                                                • trytrytry
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Record Breaking Nine Aces at the 2016 Par 3 ContestRecord Breaking Nine Aces at the 2016 Par 3 Contest
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                                                                  • smoke a bowl
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by trytrytry
                                                                    Record Breaking Nine Aces at the 2016 Par 3 ContestRecord Breaking Nine Aces at the 2016 Par 3 Contest
                                                                    Any on 16?
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                                                                    • trytrytry
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by smoke a bowl
                                                                      Any on 16?
                                                                      no skippers
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