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It wins 89%. You should go deposit your entire paycheck to an online book right now.
well i found another baby here at sbr once again
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Flyers09
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04-13-09
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#37
according to this theory the boston/cleveland game is a gift
Boston=69%
Cleveland=40%
Boston=-115
Cleveland=-105
Boston is the winner by a huge percentage...according to this theory
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Justin7
SBR Hall of Famer
07-31-06
8577
#38
Originally posted by Flyers09
according to this theory the boston/cleveland game is a gift
Boston=69%
Cleveland=40%
Boston=-115
Cleveland=-105
Boston is the winner by a huge percentage...according to this theory
huh?
What are your projected runs for Boston and Cleveland?
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Flyers09
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04-13-09
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#39
i went with the percentage of this year, and came up with that, as for the other games it was pretty even, this is the only game that stood out, as for getting projected runs for a team in its last 100 games, where am i to find that info at?
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Flyers09
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04-13-09
3666
#40
are you checking to see if thats acceptable justin7??
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durito
SBR Posting Legend
07-03-06
13173
#41
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Flyers09
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04-13-09
3666
#42
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suicidekings
SBR Hall of Famer
03-23-09
9962
#43
Originally posted by Flyers09
according to this theory the boston/cleveland game is a gift
Boston=69%
Cleveland=40%
Boston=-115
Cleveland=-105
Boston is the winner by a huge percentage...according to this theory
If you were capping the BOS-CLE game using this method and this seasons data (just for example),
BOS: 112 runs scored, 80 runs allowed
CLE: 103 runs scored, 115 runs allowed
*Assume same number of games played for simplicity
P[W](BOS) = 0.648 / (0.648 + 0.45) = 59%
P[W](CLE) = 0.45 / (0.648 + 0.45) = 41%
P[W] = Probability of winning this game
So Boston has a 59% chance of winning this game. That doesn't mean they won't potentially get blown out in this game, so it's far from being a sure thing. Instead, it implies that if this exact game was played under similar conditions many times, Boston should win approximately 59% of those games.
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suicidekings
SBR Hall of Famer
03-23-09
9962
#44
But again, that doesn't factor in the specific starting pitcher matchup, which is a pretty significant element to leave out.
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Flyers09
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04-13-09
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#45
wait whats the ^ mean?????
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Flyers09
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04-13-09
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#46
Originally posted by suicidekings
If you were capping the BOS-CLE game using this method and this seasons data (just for example),
BOS: 112 runs scored, 80 runs allowed
CLE: 103 runs scored, 115 runs allowed
*Assume same number of games played for simplicity
P[W](BOS) = 0.648 / (0.648 + 0.45) = 59%
P[W](CLE) = 0.45 / (0.648 + 0.45) = 41%
P[W] = Probability of winning this game
So Boston has a 59% chance of winning this game. That doesn't mean they won't potentially get blown out in this game, so it's far from being a sure thing. Instead, it implies that if this exact game was played under similar conditions many times, Boston should win approximately 59% of those games.
look at the spots i bolded, where r u getting them numbers? r they standard numbers that r used every time?
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suicidekings
SBR Hall of Famer
03-23-09
9962
#47
The 0.45 was calculated in the E[W](CLE) line above. The 1.82 comes from empirical testing done on the system. The original calculation used 2 as the exponent, it was determined that an exponent of 1.82 provides a better correlation to actual team winning percentages in baseball. Other sports use different exponents. The link below gives a little more info.
i think i finally understand this...i appreicate it
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losturmarbles
SBR MVP
07-01-08
4604
#49
exponent
3^2
is 3 squared
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Flyers09
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04-13-09
3666
#50
this math problem
E[W](BOS) = 112^1.82 / ( 80^1.82 + 112^1.82 ) = 0.648
Does not equal .648, im getting .583
??
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whatisit
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01-25-09
319
#51
Originally posted by Flyers09
this math problem
E[W](BOS) = 112^1.82 / ( 80^1.82 + 112^1.82 ) = 0.648
Does not equal .648, im getting .583
??
You might be doing it wrong bro, it's .648. Make sure you're doing the operations in the right order.
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Flyers09
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04-13-09
3666
#52
i am still getting .583
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Flyers09
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04-13-09
3666
#53
and im getting .472 for cleveland
no way the calculations r right
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Justin7
SBR Hall of Famer
07-31-06
8577
#54
^1.82 is better than ^2, but they are close.
I would NEVER use season-long runs scored to predict an individual game.
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Flyers09
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04-13-09
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#55
Originally posted by Justin7
^1.82 is better than ^2, but they are close.
I would NEVER use season-long runs scored to predict an individual game.
so you use last seasons runs?
if so how is that effective? what if players r traded etc etc
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losturmarbles
SBR MVP
07-01-08
4604
#56
Originally posted by Flyers09
and im getting .472 for cleveland
no way the calculations r right
its not advanced math flyers
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Justin7
SBR Hall of Famer
07-31-06
8577
#57
Originally posted by Flyers09
so you use last seasons runs?
if so how is that effective? what if players r traded etc etc
As in the video, I'd use the current batting lineup, starting pitcher, and bullpen to set projected runs. I'd use THAT to set the ML.
I've had a lot of feedback and questions on this topic, so I might do a demo video on it.
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Flyers09
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04-13-09
3666
#58
Originally posted by Justin7
As in the video, I'd use the current batting lineup, starting pitcher, and bullpen to set projected runs. I'd use THAT to set the ML.
I've had a lot of feedback and questions on this topic, so I might do a demo video on it.
if you could that would be highly appreciated
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suicidekings
SBR Hall of Famer
03-23-09
9962
#59
Justin:
If you ignore current season data, how do you account for a pitcher when his current season performance deviates significantly from his career stats? Take Zach Duke for example: Career ERA = 4.30, BAA = .305, etc, but has been pitching very well this year so far. If you were capping a game in which he was starting, how would you approach estimating how many runs he will allow?
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Justin7
SBR Hall of Famer
07-31-06
8577
#60
Originally posted by suicidekings
Justin:
If you ignore current season data, how do you account for a pitcher when his current season performance deviates significantly from his career stats? Take Zach Duke for example: Career ERA = 4.30, BAA = .305, etc, but has been pitching very well this year so far. If you were capping a game in which he was starting, how would you approach estimating how many runs he will allow?
I'd assume he was lucky so far, and will pitch going forward like he has in the past. And I'd be more right than wrong.