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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    Flipper And Others Tell ME About Providence??
    I kneed to know about this squad at home
  • Snake24
    SBR MVP
    • 06-14-14
    • 2366

    #2
    Great home and away team, 9-2 and 4-0 respectively.
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    • iheartAlabama
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 12-15-15
      • 506

      #3
      Take the over
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      • FlipsideRM
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 09-28-11
        • 10518

        #4
        Very tough game to call. I think butler eeks it out even on the road but you couldnt force me to play this game
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388179

          #5
          Butler not bad either

          fukkin guess

          looking for angles
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          • 2daBank
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-26-09
            • 88966

            #6
            Originally posted by iheartAlabama
            Take the over
            i wouldnt be so fast to go that route. provo shot insanely and uncharacteristically well from behind the arc (other than lindsey nobody could miss and bullock made like half his 3s he has made all season in that game!) the 1st meeting and they scored 154, id expect this game to stay in the 140s so under or nothing makes way more sense imo..
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            • Capybara
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 08-17-08
              • 11803

              #7
              Originally posted by 2daBank
              i wouldnt be so fast to go that route. provo shot insanely and uncharacteristically well from behind the arc (other than lindsey nobody could miss and bullock made like half his 3s he has made all season in that game!) the 1st meeting and they scored 154, id expect this game to stay in the 140s so under or nothing makes way more sense imo..
              Bankerman, you got a call on the side here? Assuming you have it as a no-play but gun to your head?
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              • Snake24
                SBR MVP
                • 06-14-14
                • 2366

                #8
                Toss up game. I'm going with the home team with the best player!
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                • mikemca
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 03-10-10
                  • 10047

                  #9
                  Kris Dunn is legit. Should be #2 pick in nba draft imo.
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                  • Snake24
                    SBR MVP
                    • 06-14-14
                    • 2366

                    #10
                    He is real nice.
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                    • LT Profits
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-27-06
                      • 90963

                      #11
                      Butler +1.5 my only CBB play tonight so far. Big disparity in three-pointers made in favor of Butler tonight could be key as they get revenge for earlier home loss. Providence in not a good shooting team, ranked 213th in the country in effective field goal percentage, and they have been shooting even worse in recent games. Also, the two home losses this year have come in the last two home games vs. Seton Hall and Marquette, Butler is better than both those teams.
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                      • Jowframs
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 08-10-09
                        • 5128

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jjgold
                        Butler not bad either

                        fukkin guess

                        looking for angles
                        Spread tells it all.....Go Butler
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                        • mikemca
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 03-10-10
                          • 10047

                          #13
                          Would lean Butler here though. Butler was up 36-23 with 1min left in the 1st half when they played 12/31 before falling apart.
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                          • LT Profits
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 10-27-06
                            • 90963

                            #14
                            Originally posted by mikemca
                            Would lean Butler here though. Butler was up 36-23 with 1min left in the 1st half when they played 12/31 before falling apart.
                            Providence has made a habit of being down double-digits at halftime.
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                            • 2daBank
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 01-26-09
                              • 88966

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Capybara
                              Bankerman, you got a call on the side here? Assuming you have it as a no-play but gun to your head?
                              im a fan of dunn and have followed provo for last few years pretty close mostly because i like his game.

                              you right it a no play for me but gun to head i agree with LT, provo current form (havnt been sharp in conf at home) and how uncharacteristically well they shot the 1st meeting makes me think butler has pretty good shot to get a little revenge..
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                              • DOM_Toretto
                                Restricted User
                                • 01-28-13
                                • 9035

                                #16
                                Butler couldn't contain Dunn last time, he'll go off again. Bentil will have his way against undersized Butler down low.

                                Roosevelt Jones + Dunham + Chrabascz are combined 35/111 (31.5%) in the last 3 meetings vs Provo.
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                                • DOM_Toretto
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 01-28-13
                                  • 9035

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by mikemca
                                  Would lean Butler here though. Butler was up 36-23 with 1min left in the 1st half when they played 12/31 before falling apart.
                                  Both Dunn & Bentil were in foul trouble in 1H and I expect the refs to continue favoring home court tonight so that early foul trouble likely won't happen again
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                                  • PaperTrail07
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 08-29-08
                                    • 20423

                                    #18
                                    simmons dunn hield
                                    Originally posted by mikemca
                                    Kris Dunn is legit. Should be #2 pick in nba draft imo.
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                                    • Snake24
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 06-14-14
                                      • 2366

                                      #19
                                      Great thread! This is what it's about!
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                                      • Snake24
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 06-14-14
                                        • 2366

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                        simmons dunn hield
                                        Agree. That Murray kid from UK is in that mix.
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                                        • FlipsideRM
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 09-28-11
                                          • 10518

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                          simmons dunn hield
                                          hield isn't even top 5, love the kid but not sure if his game will translate well to the NBA to be a top 5 pick.
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                                          • PaperTrail07
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 08-29-08
                                            • 20423

                                            #22
                                            natural skill 100% translates...i just love the guy LOL...could see him coming off the bench and help out a few teams in the NBA....just my opinion..DEF a top 10---just not a deep draft...
                                            Originally posted by FlipsideRM
                                            hield isn't even top 5, love the kid but not sure if his game will translate well to the NBA to be a top 5 pick.
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                                            • Snowball
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 11-15-09
                                              • 30047

                                              #23
                                              Providence or no play. Why? A few reasons.
                                              They were undefeated until a slow start caught them
                                              vs Marquette. They rallied back but fell by 1 point in
                                              an ending that could have gone either way, fouls and all.
                                              In the loss to Seton Hall, sloppy play hurt them and there is
                                              some underestimation of Seton Hall this year, who are dangerous
                                              when hot. Friars were down 10 at the half, won the 2nd by 1.
                                              The game took place exactly at the same time as the Patriots.
                                              Players hoped they would get fan support at the Dunk but it wasn't
                                              so much because everyone was watching the Pats. Poo Poo that
                                              all you want but players said they hoped for support. Of course tonight
                                              there will be a lot of that.
                                              The main issue with Friars right now is buffing up the bench play and
                                              starting strong - the team has a demonstrated ability to rally back but
                                              shouldn't be putting themselves in a position where they need to.
                                              We can be sure coach Cooley is on this. On to the Butler game tonight
                                              I can understand the line (due to recent forms) and stats (which overinflate
                                              Butler's scoring against lesser teams) but at Butler just 3 weeks ago the
                                              Friars overcame an 11 pt deficit at the half to embarass Butler in front of
                                              their fans by 19 in the 2h with times they were up well into the 20's in
                                              10-15 minutes of bball. So anyone who takes Butler needs to understand
                                              that Providence when they are playing well is more talented.
                                              In the loss to Seton Hall, Kris Dunn fouled out and so did bench guard
                                              Edwards. Friars can't afford to see Dunn foul out and expect to beat
                                              top ranking teams. It was a Dunn foul that made them lose to Marquette also.
                                              If Cooley impresses on Dunn to be less eager to make overzealous plays on defense
                                              resulting in fouls they should win tonight.
                                              Butler wants revenge but the Friars should be able to force them into sloppy
                                              defense resulting in fouls and get to the line a lot. (Bentil).
                                              It's not worth taking Butler at this line, Providence has shown when they
                                              play their game smart they are the better team. They were able to impose
                                              their will on Butler quickly. They held Butler to 3/17 from 3.
                                              So basically unless you think Butler will drain 3's in Providence and force
                                              Kris Dunn into foul trouble again when he is instructed to avoid that
                                              then it's PC or no play or at the very least wait to 2h if you think the
                                              Friars will start slow again.
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                                              • mikemca
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 03-10-10
                                                • 10047

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by DOM_Toretto
                                                Both Dunn & Bentil were in foul trouble in 1H and I expect the refs to continue favoring home court tonight so that early foul trouble likely won't happen again
                                                Dunn fouled out Saturday at home when they lost to Seton Hall.

                                                Head to head on Kenpom Butler matches up very good vs Providence with a huge edge in effective FG%.

                                                I like Dunn a lot but think Providence is over rated because of him so you get + money with the better team.
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388179

                                                  #25
                                                  going to poke Prov just on the home court angle

                                                  good luck
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                                                  • mlathrop3
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 01-26-13
                                                    • 190

                                                    #26
                                                    Per my writeup on the front page I am taking Providence with some confidence. Butler has no size to create a mismatch with Providence, and the Friars younger lineup will be stoked to play at home (read: defense). I also see this as a let down game after Butler's last one in which they had all kinds of ceremonies for their center who died of cancer last week.

                                                    As always with a team like Butler they can hit a bunch of 3's and be in any game; however, if they come out cold they will shoot themselves into a big deficit on the road.
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                                                    • Louisvillekid1
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 10-17-07
                                                      • 52143

                                                      #27
                                                      Prov backers should wait until 2h as you'll get a better line, butler is going to come out strong, I'm on butler 1h
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                                                      • bndet99
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 03-06-15
                                                        • 452

                                                        #28
                                                        Good thread here. Let's go Providence Friars!
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                                                        • KRIT
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 01-11-14
                                                          • 12878

                                                          #29
                                                          Butler struggles with real athletic teams like Provo. Personally I just think Provo is the better team but won't touch because hard to sweep a team, especially when they just played each other a few weeks ago.
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388179

                                                            #30
                                                            Everyone going to flipper now

                                                            College hoops
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                                                            • terrortwylight
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 11-04-09
                                                              • 3032

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                              Butler +1.5 my only CBB play tonight so far. Big disparity in three-pointers made in favor of Butler tonight could be key as they get revenge for earlier home loss. Providence in not a good shooting team, ranked 213th in the country in effective field goal percentage, and they have been shooting even worse in recent games. Also, the two home losses this year have come in the last two home games vs. Seton Hall and Marquette, Butler is better than both those teams.
                                                              I agree with you as far as the 3 pointers/FG percentages are concerned. But, I don't put any stock in the fact that they lost to Seton Hall and Marquette and that Butler is better than both of them. Time and time again I find that there is no transitive property in sports.
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                                                              • ringemup
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 11-24-08
                                                                • 2112

                                                                #32
                                                                Don't know if guys here watch teams actually play rather than final scores but to me Prov. has looked disturbingly sloppy against lesser opponents and gotten outhustled in 2 straight home games as a ranked team. Yet almost 60% public on provo knowing they were ranked #4 or 5 only a week ago and still buying the hype. I can tell you to lose to seton hall and Marquette on home floor shows me this team is not very focused mentally and it will get even tougher vs a Butler squad that plays the full 40 min. with high intensity. Add in revenge and Butler the play here.
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                                                                • Chong Wizard
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 03-15-10
                                                                  • 1005

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                  going to poke Prov just on the home court angle

                                                                  good luck
                                                                  Who else you like today Goldy?
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                                                                  • jjgold
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                                    • 388179

                                                                    #34
                                                                    winner

                                                                    chongs nobody
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                                                                    • Capybara
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 08-17-08
                                                                      • 11803

                                                                      #35
                                                                      What a game!! Congrats, Prov backers!
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