Mass shooting in San Bernardino CA--up to 12 dead so far

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

Snowball is convinced YouTube is on the conspiracy, too.

This thing is bigger than any of us have ever imagined.

... nice

[Snowball]

Again, the age old question......why? Why perpetuate a false flag? What's the end game? False flag Sandy hook
produced no change in gun control. We are already fighting IS and terrorism. A false flag doesn't change that.
Terrorist false flags are taking more and more of our freedoms, is that the end game, to control us?.

Yes, to control us. Did you know the SPLC has all Christian Identity groups on their terror watch list ?
Traditional Catholic groups and anti-LGBT groups are also on their terror-hate map.
The no-fly list is secret. You don't know you're on it until you try to fly. Expanding this list, and
the delineation of a large segment of the population according to profile based on data (red list, blue list, green list, etc)
in case of a national emergency is real. The NSA/Mossad monitors everything. Google/You Tube.
Facebook. Twitter. Smartphones. ALL of it.
Conversations. Medical. Travel. Purchasing. Banking. You name it. They created these
companies, not the people you think did. They are merely chosen icons for public consumption.
The President wants a firearm ban on a vague
"list" of people who have committed no crime, but who have "anti-government" viewpoints.
- expansion of domestic surveillance
- restriction of Second Amendment
- monitoring of all money transactions
- monitoring of travel via satellite, drones, and GPS
- foreign invasions to advance the one-world government
While the Left cries for taking away guns, the Right cries for foreign invasions, they both
cry for surveillance and there is Billions of dollars to be made, plus the overarching agenda
which is complete population control. They have technologies at their command which
are hidden from the public and from the entire education establishment.

[INVEGA MAN]

Snowball, im glad you are not my neighbor because you are one sick dude.

[Russian Rocket]

[TheMoneyShot]

im not really into the crisis actor thing but for the drills part ill answer.

1. patsies that they killed
2. real deaths but done by pro killers
3. probably. bush certainly was
4. probably not. i think the reason for drills being conducted for the same thing on the same day at the same location for all these attacks is that the ppl who plan the false flags want their ppl there to run the show so that they will be controlling all the local law enforcement in order to keep them doing what they want where they want while their own handpicked ppl do the real work.

i think there may be some actors just to corroborate the story they want to spin. for instance in this shooting maybe some real witnesses said there were 3 men. they now need witnesses to say it was actually two ppl to fit their story and to explain why they suspected those two.

the main reason ppl think there are fake deaths is because of sandy hook where some of the parents and background ppl were laughing and smiling. the coroner acted very strange and the bizarre story of kids escaping the shooting then being picked up by a school bus who took them to a strangers house where he just let them chill out for awhile until they told them there was a shooting at the school. also i dont think there was any footage of any children actually being evacuated or present at that school or the firehouse during the news coverage. the police just declared the kids dead, i think within minutes, and never let any paramedics or doctors in the school to try to save the kids and they never called any emergency helicopters to air lift them out.

if you think it is ludicrous that our government would fake deaths and terrorist attacks then you should google operation northwoods where the joint chiefs of staff and the cia actually submitted a proposal to kennedy to commit terrorist attacks against US civilians and soldiers with real and fake deaths in order to blame it on cuba so we could go to war with them.

the uss maine was also destroyed from within and blamed on spain in order to start the spanish american war.

a fake gulf of tonkin attack justified vietnam.

the sinking of the lusitania was the justification for the usa to enter ww1. the usa placed over 170 tons of war munitions on the lusitania which carried over 1200 civilian passangers even after germany told the usa they would sink ships flying british or ally flags near the british isles that were suspected to be smuggling arms. they also took out ads in newspapers warning potential passengers.

those are just the false flags that were verified.

This isn't considered conspiracy anymore. This is non-fiction.

Some people are real. Some people aren't.

If the government wants to test out situations.... and your own family happens to be at the wrong place and the wrong time... consider it bad luck. Our government would kill it's own people to get a pattern or point across. Why don't you people get this???

I said in another post about Saddam Hussein... a friend of mine is in the Marines. They had a direct shot at Saddam Hussein within the first 2 months at war. Their commander told them to "stand down". I believe this was in 2002 or 2003. My friend got a dishonorable discharge for leaving the military. He said he didn't care. 12 years later... it's been passed down in the military. Other soldiers have heard about this... and they see with their own eyes what type of missions they are receiving. They are inconsistent.

So what was the point to let Saddam live at that particular time? The US Military won the war to quickly? Word got out that the squad that was suppose to kill Saddam unbelievably found him too quickly. It even surprised the commander.

There's a point with everything.... in life. The US govt. didn't want him dead at that particular time. Which means... they had a plan and motive of their own.

I understand that CIA and war topics are classified. I get that. You wouldn't want your enemies getting all the details. But don't lie to the citizens of the USA. Don't continually cause drama in your own homeland.

The govts. plan on taking weaponry from citizens isn't working. Nice try.

As for the Twin Towers... hate to bring it up... but I have to. 110 story building that didn't collapse left, or right, or tilt any angle on camera. It came unbelievably straight down to the ground. Doesn't anyone want to question science? If a plane runs into a building... wouldn't a 1,368 foot building tilt from beams wearing out... pressure... anything. 1,368 foot buildings just don't implode on their own and come straight down. Unless they were designed to come straight down? Which tells me... something was staged over there.

So believe whatever you want to believe.

I laugh every time I see these military commercials on TV. Yep, go and be a pawn. Sounds like a fulfilled life. Being owned.

[sourtwist]

Saw plenty of injured being treated on scene and serious casualties were transported to hospital, I'm sure they will all be speaking out once released.

Those pics are from drills leading up to the show

[sourtwist]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://dailyhaze.com/was-there-active-shooter-drills-2-days-before-the-san-bernardino-shooting/&ved=0ahUKEwi-5-XY0M_JAhVIej4KHaTNC3kQFggjMAI&usg=AFQjCNGFpaK4m_RNS_4eMY_6QXX2yGFf3g

Here you go

[sourtwist]

I will always wonder why people just call people crazy without looking into things for themselves

Guys like bitemybigpussydoj are a disgrace.

[TheSideBet]

Those pics are from drills leading up to the show

Come on now. Yes they had drills, but the ones I posted are from the aftermath of the actual shooting. Are you saying nobody got injured then? Is that your opinion?

[Snowball]

Come on now. Yes they had drills, but the ones I posted are from the aftermath of the actual shooting. Are you saying nobody got injured then? Is that your opinion?

it was part real and part fake.
where is his "brother", the Navy veteran ? and his wife ?
strangely absent.

[TheSideBet]

it was part real and part fake.
where is his "brother", the Navy veteran ? and his wife ?
strangely absent.

Which brother?

I have only heard his father and mother are now on a terror watch list and that the guy he purchased two rifles from (Enrique Marquez) was in the process of converting to Islam and had planned to attack the U.S. in 2012 but they called it off after terror related arrests happened close by.

[paco]

Where is the dead wife pic?

[Snowball]

Which brother?

I have only heard his father and mother are now on a terror watch list and that the guy he purchased two rifles from (Enrique Marquez) was in the process of converting to Islam and had planned to attack the U.S. in 2012 but they called it off after terror related arrests happened close by.

Even the "official" news had wrong photos when this started.
His brother is a decorated Navy veteran named Syed Raheel Farook.
That brother's wife is Tatiana Farook. Neither have come forward, if
they are even alive now. There is a weird story about an anonymous neighbor
saying they were fighting a lot the couple weeks up to the shooting.
Still, neither has appeared. Syed Rizwan Farook is/was the purported terrorist.

[Snowball]

Where is the dead wife pic?

she is here.
do you like the weird perfectly square rectangle on her back ?

[MoeSedway]

Some of you are in serious need of sunlight and/or psychiatric care.

[sourtwist]

Some of you are in serious need of sunlight and/or psychiatric care.

Cloudy by me today, but I'm in NY and think you are too

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

Hey sourloon... I realize you had a near mental breakdown recently (your own admission) and, in general, you move along in life with less marbles than the Average Joe... but still, try your best to read and comprehend the following (even tho reading/comprehending has already been established as another weakness of yours):

1) Normal, reasonable people of actual intelligence have looked at all kinds of information from all kinds of sources; we're just not loons (like you) and can actually follow the bouncing ball and don't have a mental disorder (like you) that makes us conspiracy nuts at every turn. While we realize the MSM doesn't always get things 100% correct -- and often their initial mistakes are due to their zeal for "getting it reported first" in a competitive news market, and not conspiratorial... and is subsequently corrected -- normal people realize that while conspiracies/coverups have certainly existed (Watergate, etc.), not next-to-everything that occurs is an actual one.

2) You are 100% wrong. The pictures TheSideBet posted are from the terrorist act shooting, not drills. Those pics appeared in numerous reputable publications (Washington Post, NY Post, etc.) chronicling the shootings. If you possessed more mental marbles then you do, you'd realize the pics at your dopey website link are, in fact, different pics. But, congrats on finally figuring out how to direct link!... you simpleton you. Still can't do it with that video, but oh well... (Oh wait, that's right, the Washington & NY Post and all the others are in on the conspiracy too! My bad.)

3) Unlike you, I've put on a uniform to fight & defend this country, so that loons like you can enjoy the freedom(s) to be mental midgets and say all the stupid things you say; I'm proud of that, and wouldn't have it any other way. You need guys like me and the millions of others to put on the uniform of this country to help protect your freedoms, ergo, your lunacy. I'm completely confident if Lt. Col. Ralph Peters were to jump into this thread right now, he'd make it abundantly clear who the real pussy was.

CARRY ON, LOON

[fried cheese]

You might want to read his latest false flag post and reevaluate.
President Bush was involved in 9/11 and other such loonery.

You pulled a Jerry Jones and fell in love too soon, pal.
Fried Cheese is just SBR's Brandon Weeden, pal.
Burned ya like a stuck pumpernickel in a turned up toaster oven.

so if 9/11 wasnt staged how did the third word trade tower fall symmetrically at freefall speeds with asymmetrical damage? even nist admits it fell at freefall speeds for 8 stories and cant explain it. freefall speeds means it fell at the acceleration of gravity with only air resistance. crashing through the building below it tends to slow it down a little right?

in one of the other trade center towers you can clearly see the top part tipping at an angle as it falls but it still falls straight down demolishing the whole building instead of getting imbalanced and falling off the building. the north and south tower also fell too fast and symmetrically.

molten steel was shown streaming out of one tower prior to its collapse and there were reports of molten steel under the building by firemen as well as pictures during the cleanup. jet fuel fire cannot melt steel. and no it was not molten aluminium because aluminum looks silvery when it is melted not bright orange.

high tech nano-thermite was found in the dust by a byu physicist in a peer reviewed paper. this is an explosive form of thermite that would be capable of melting steel. this would not be something terrorists would have access too without our government giving it to them.

bush's brother and cousin headed the company that provided security for the world trade center, dulles airport, and united airlines. until 1998 this security company was also used by los alamos where nano thermite was first created. in the weeks prior to 9/11 they had elevator refurbishments which would allow access to the main structure and bomb sniffing dogs were removed from the wtc for the first time since the bombing in 1993.

there were many eye witnesses that saw and heard explosions well after the planes hit as well as William Rodriguez (arguably the biggest hero during 9/11) who heard large explosions in the sub-basement before any of the towers were even hit by a plane.

[Kermit]

Looks like Farook had this attack planned out for a year.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/san-bernardino-shooting/san-bernardino-shooters-planned-attack-least-year-advance-n476521

[jjgold]

A neighbor not in hot water for selling him the guns

Seems like a good kid too

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

^^ you're just parroting long conspiratorial musings that have been around forever that have little basis in actual fact. I trust you're not anything close to a structural engineer, so perhaps start with this as your 101 lesson and progress from there. As you conspiratorial types love to say: THE ANSWERS ARE OUT THERE.

And, of course, let's forget about the human fact that all you conspiracy aficionados conveniently leave out of the equation with all this mass conspiracy blather, which, is so eloquently summed up by this brilliant man:

"Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead."
-- Benjamin Franklin

[paco]

Looks like Farook had this attack planned out for a year.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/san-bernardino-shooting/san-bernardino-shooters-planned-attack-least-year-advance-n476521

Stupidest article ever. Just cause someone goes to a range to shoot frequently means they are planning an attack? Lmfao. Story gets dumber and dumber

[Kermit]

Stupidest article ever. Just cause someone goes to a range to shoot frequently means they are planning an attack? Lmfao. Story gets dumber and dumber

Have you found any witnesses from inside the conference room where the shooting took place that claimed that they were fired upon by 3 tall white athletic males yet?

[TheSideBet]

Stupidest article ever. Just cause someone goes to a range to shoot frequently means they are planning an attack? Lmfao. Story gets dumber and dumber

Way more to that story. Yes the couple went to a range. The article and overall story thought points to how he spoke of attacks online to the wife even before they were married.

How about we let this all play out for a few weeks and the piece it all together? I say that, but I realize some will say they know too much too fast so its fake or they are adding things as they find them through investigating and links and that means its all planted, so its fake. I hope we can all meet in the middle here.

[TheSideBet]

Even the "official" news had wrong photos when this started.
His brother is a decorated Navy veteran named Syed Raheel Farook.
That brother's wife is Tatiana Farook. Neither have come forward, if
they are even alive now. There is a weird story about an anonymous neighbor
saying they were fighting a lot the couple weeks up to the shooting.
Still, neither has appeared. Syed Rizwan Farook is/was the purported terrorist.

This guy? I just Googled "Farook brother Navy" and this popped up.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/08/farook-brother-not-a-decorated-navy-veteran/

[TheSideBet]

@Snowball here is the mythical brother. Meeting with the family attorney. Guess he doesn't want to be in the spotlight but he is real.

[JIBBBY]

I hope they hammer down on the families of these terrorists, brothers, sisters, relatives, mothers and Fathers!! I'd bet my ass most if not all of them knew this was going down.. None of them called it in and I think if you know a terrorist act is gonna happen in America and you don't report it to the authorities you should be made just as punishable for the crime...

The father is already avoiding the media like the plague...

[Snowball]

well that's good. But it was only a very minor question I had.
There are dozens of others. I'm still convinced of a false flag,
as is their lawyer.

[fried cheese]

^^ you're just parroting long conspiratorial musings that have been around forever that have little basis in actual fact. I trust you're not anything close to a structural engineer, so perhaps start with this as your 101 lesson and progress from there. As you conspiratorial types love to say: THE ANSWERS ARE OUT THERE.

And, of course, let's forget about the human fact that all you conspiracy aficionados conveniently leave out of the equation with all this mass conspiracy blather, which, is so eloquently summed up by this brilliant man:

"Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead."
-- Benjamin Franklin

i think all the statements i made were facts except "the north and south tower also fell too fast and symmetrically". which were not?

i am not an engineer but there is a site with over 2400 engineers and architects agreeing that the wtc towers could not have fallen as they did.

http://www.ae911truth.org/about.html

you video didnt even address wtc7 at all or the rate of acceleration or symmetry the south tower fell at. one guy was quoted in it saying "it was very much like a controlled demolition when you look at it because the building fell almost vertically down as if someone had deliberately set blasts to take place to cause the building to fall vertically downward". the explanation was that the whole core in the north tower was compromised so it imploded in on itself. that argument is fine for the north tower but for the south they said the fires on one side caused the weakening so it should not have imploded into itself it should have fallen down at an angle.

another point that video makes is that the majority of fire proofing was knocked off by the plane crash because there is no way the steel could have been weakened enough in that period of time if most of it remained. even though the building was designed to be hit by planes multiple times, a larger plane will certainly take off most of the fireproofing? the lab director of UL (which certified the wtc steel) disagreed with that and the projected fire temperatures in the building and sent a letter to nist to clarify their position and was fired for that.

below is a picture of the floors that got upgrades to their fireproofing in the years prior to 9/11 and where the planes impacted.

maybe the upgrade was taking it all off?

if you have a video which explains how a building can implode at freefall speeds without a controlled demolition please post it. and your quote is ridiculous otherwise there would be no point in classifying information.

[eidolon]

i think all the statements i made were facts except "the north and south tower also fell too fast and symmetrically". which were not?

i am not an engineer but there is a site with over 2400 engineers and architects agreeing that the wtc towers could not have fallen as they did.

http://www.ae911truth.org/about.html

you video didnt even address wtc7 at all or the rate of acceleration or symmetry the south tower fell at. one guy was quoted in it saying "it was very much like a controlled demolition when you look at it because the building fell almost vertically down as if someone had deliberately set blasts to take place to cause the building to fall vertically downward". the explanation was that the whole core in the north tower was compromised so it imploded in on itself. that argument is fine for the north tower but for the south they said the fires on one side caused the weakening so it should not have imploded into itself it should have fallen down at an angle.

another point that video makes is that the majority of fire proofing was knocked off by the plane crash because there is no way the steel could have been weakened enough in that period of time if most of it remained. even though the building was designed to be hit by planes multiple times, a larger plane will certainly take off most of the fireproofing? the lab director of UL (which certified the wtc steel) disagreed with that and the projected fire temperatures in the building and sent a letter to nist to clarify their position and was fired for that.

below is a picture of the floors that got upgrades to their fireproofing in the years prior to 9/11 and where the planes impacted.
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maybe the upgrade was taking it all off?

if you have a video which explains how a building can implode at freefall speeds without a controlled demolition please post it. and your quote is ridiculous otherwise there would be no point in classifying information.

There about 7+ conspiracy theories of why/how 9/11 happened. Yet, they don't connect and work with each other to actually paint a picture. Quit playing with feces, open the door, and come to reality.

[fried cheese]

There about 7+ conspiracy theories of why/how 9/11 happened. Yet, they don't connect and work with each other to actually paint a picture. Quit playing with feces, open the door, and come to reality.

just explain to me how a building can implode symmetrically at freefall speeds without a controlled demolition then. even nist wont explain it and their computer models for all the building collapses end right when the building starts to collapse because they cant make the computer model have a symmetrical collapse and the speeds they actually fell at.

[TheMoneyShot]

A lot of great posters at SBR. Not arguing with any of them.

I'm just saying... I just find it unusual that 2 huge buildings came crashing down like free fall speed. No pause. No tilting. Just straight down? Why not just collapse halfway down? Or... have a part of the building break off and fall to the ground below?

I would imagine if this jet fuel caught fire.... melting the beams... why didn't the building just tilt and fall on other structures?

It just came down too perfectly in my eyes.

[eidolon]

she is here.
do you like the weird perfectly square rectangle on her back ?

You missed the perfect circle on the shin as well. That is also weird.

[JIBBBY]

just explain to me how a building can implode symmetrically at freefall speeds without a controlled demolition then. even nist wont explain it and their computer models for all the building collapses end right when the building starts to collapse because they cant make the computer model have a symmetrical collapse and the speeds they actually fell at.

We all saw that conspiracy theory debunked on the Cable channels already.. It was clearly explained by a master engineer that at the time the trade center building came tumbling down, more and more weight was pushing down on the weak points of the structure crushing and giving way at those exact points... Yes it looked like well placed, spaced and timed explosions but in reality it was just weak points in the structure that failed systematically between floors..

[TheMoneyShot]

she is here.
do you like the weird perfectly square rectangle on her back ?

This person looks awfully thin. Wasn't the mother on the chubby side?