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  • daneblazer
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    • 09-14-08
    • 27861

    #1
    Matt Harvey going to shut himself down
    ing toward stopping at 180 IP


    Matt Harvey said Saturday he's always considered 180 innings to be his limit for this year and would not answer questions about pitching in the postseason.

    It would seem that Harvey is siding with agent Scott Boras, who does not want him to pitch past 180 innings. Part of the blame has to fall on the Mets, who had all season to figure out what they were going to do with Harvey. Regardless, it's baffling Harvey is willing to hang it up right in the middle of a pennant race. It's a huge 180 for Harvey after the right-hander convinced the Mets not to go to a six-man rotation earlier this year. It's a messy situation for the Mets and one that could keep happening with young players coming off Tommy John surgery.
  • The Giant
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    • 01-21-12
    • 21480

    #2
    What does this mean for the playoffs? He's only at 166 innings right now.
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    • jjgold
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      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #3
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      • MoneyLineDawg
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        • 01-01-09
        • 13253

        #4
        If he's gunna do that they should hold him till the playoffs and use him out of the pen

        Pretty selfish move
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        • jjgold
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          • 07-20-05
          • 388179

          #5
          I would never sign a quitter like that

          ho wants a quitter in clubhouse??
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          • stealthyburrito
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            • 05-12-09
            • 21562

            #6
            smart move - looking out for his long term earning potential.

            just goes to show pro players have no loyalty to any fanbase despite what they say.
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            • MoneyLineDawg
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              • 01-01-09
              • 13253

              #7
              Yeah but why "180" innings....Such an arbitrary number

              How many times has he thrown a ball when he wasn't pitching an official inning...How many pitches were actually thrown during these innings also matters more
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              • innovation
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                • 01-27-12
                • 6218

                #8
                ask the Nats how it works out
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                • jjgold
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                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388179

                  #9
                  I would never sign him if I was the Mets

                  He proves he is into himself, does not want to win and is afraid of the big spotlight
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                  • The Giant
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                    • 01-21-12
                    • 21480

                    #10
                    Can he even do this?

                    It seems like if a team tells you to pitch, and you're not injured, you have to pitch.
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                    • jjgold
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                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #11
                      Originally posted by The Giant
                      Can he even do this?

                      It seems like if a team tells you to pitch, and you're not injured, you have to pitch.
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                      • KingJD31
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                        • 11-04-11
                        • 8167

                        #12
                        Let the pussy go somewhere else, invest the money on a bat
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                        • jjgold
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                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388179

                          #13
                          I agree King the Mets have a shot to win it all in the pussy wants to quit I think he's gay
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                          • Harold Baines
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                            • 03-20-12
                            • 158

                            #14
                            Too bad he's already arbitration eligible this winter... otherwise if I'm the Mets, I option him down to AAA immediately to mess with his MLB service time, then renew his contract for the minimum next spring.
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                            • Mike Huntertz
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                              • 08-19-09
                              • 11207

                              #15
                              You PITCH BITCH, when I tell you to.
                              I pay you huge dough to work as directed.
                              Get your rich ass off the bench and throw.

                              I'm the boss of you!

                              Fred Wilpon
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                              • afgballer56
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-11-14
                                • 1312

                                #16
                                This is a punk move by harvey
                                I dont see a tru compeitor quitting this time in the season when they have a legit shot of making a run
                                I think these innings limits and pitch counts are out of hand
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                                • kidcudi92
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 12-14-11
                                  • 15434

                                  #17
                                  Scott Boras is a Jackoff
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                                  • pensfan1919
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                                    • 04-08-12
                                    • 120

                                    #18
                                    Boras is just the bad cop-he's doing what Harvey wants him to do.
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                                    • texhooper
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                                      • 01-05-09
                                      • 10001

                                      #19
                                      I'm gonna self-impose a keystroke limit at my job. Shut it down late November until mid January when I'm feeling it again
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                                      • krk1030
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                                        • 08-13-08
                                        • 17610

                                        #20
                                        Mets should void is contract if he refuses to pitch.
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                                        • BarkingToad
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                                          • 08-31-08
                                          • 5913

                                          #21
                                          Unreal, why didn't he just start his season sometime in May if that was the case?
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                                          • iifold
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                                            • 04-25-10
                                            • 11111

                                            #22
                                            Why the Mets should trade Noah Syndergaard and Matt Harvey...

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                                            • temple2010
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                                              • 03-16-10
                                              • 1369

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by BarkingToad
                                              Unreal, why didn't he just start his season sometime in May if that was the case?
                                              Cause the Mets management are fuking incompetent jerkoffs who didn't think they had chance to win the division this year
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                                              • Mase of Base
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 07-24-12
                                                • 3622

                                                #24
                                                Step on up Steven Matz. Already shut down the team they could end up playing in the playoffs the LAD at Dodger Stadium.

                                                Sucks for Met fans though Harveys out.
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                                                • bigballa
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 10-18-12
                                                  • 429

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Harold Baines
                                                  Too bad he's already arbitration eligible this winter... otherwise if I'm the Mets, I option him down to AAA immediately to mess with his MLB service time, then renew his contract for the minimum next spring.
                                                  amen brother, tried to give you points,wouldnt let me but yes i agree shame they cant do that, guy is piece of shit, boras his agent tells you all you need to know about the guy...
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                                                  • Ra77er
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                                                    • 06-20-11
                                                    • 10969

                                                    #26
                                                    The future depends on bright arms/and bats to a lesser degree and if you start sacrificing everything just to win now then you cannot establish a dynasty. It is selfish to a degree though but I understand. I have no idea how a competitor can sit by idly during this kind of 2h but hopefully it will payoff for the Muts in the long run.
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                                                    • konck
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                                                      • 10-17-06
                                                      • 12554

                                                      #27
                                                      Its been forever since the Mets had playoff hopes.......Harvey was my favorite Met now he is a pussy
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                                                      • jjgold
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                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                        • 388179

                                                        #28
                                                        I say he does not

                                                        Too much pressure

                                                        He should lighten up rest of season though on innings
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                                                        • afgballer56
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-11-14
                                                          • 1312

                                                          #29
                                                          He should have started the season later
                                                          Instead of missing the important games in october
                                                          These teams are stupid sometimes
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                                                          • ByeShea
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                                                            • 06-30-08
                                                            • 8117

                                                            #30
                                                            This is typical Boras situation - but remember, Boras works for Harvey.

                                                            He's going to step up and act like he won't let Harvey pitch for medical reasons - so Boras will be the bad guy to the fans, but it is 100% Harvey's decision. Strasburg 2.0.

                                                            Mets should have traded the fukk while they could have gotten a king's ransom for him.
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                                                            • Mr KLC
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                                                              • 12-19-07
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                                                              #31
                                                              Mets have enough starting pitching to trade Harvey during the offseason. They are going to need some hitting if Cespedes does not resign with them. What I like best is that the Mets went to the 6 man rotation to preserve his arm, and Harvey bitched about it then. Mets just need to cut bait, and get some value for this wishy washy kid.
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                                                              • 44 Mag
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                                                                • 10-14-13
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by ByeShea
                                                                This is typical Boras situation - but remember, Boras works for Harvey.

                                                                He's going to step up and act like he won't let Harvey pitch for medical reasons - so Boras will be the bad guy to the fans, but it is 100% Harvey's decision. Strasburg 2.0.

                                                                Mets should have traded the fukk while they could have gotten a king's ransom for him.
                                                                Seems like a good idea now, but don't think that other GM's don't know this guy and his agent. I'm sure it is well know in the MLB community how this guy is. It' one thing getting David Price as a "Summer Rental", it's another getting Harvey, just my opinion.
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                                                                • stealthyburrito
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                                                                  • 05-12-09
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by ByeShea
                                                                  This is typical Boras situation - but remember, Boras works for Harvey.

                                                                  He's going to step up and act like he won't let Harvey pitch for medical reasons - so Boras will be the bad guy to the fans, but it is 100% Harvey's decision. Strasburg 2.0.

                                                                  Mets should have traded the fukk while they could have gotten a king's ransom for him.
                                                                  Not exactly - Strasburg had no say in the matter and the inning cap was determined in spring training not late in the pennant race.
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                                                                  • 19th Hole
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                                                                    • 03-22-09
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    What did you expect?
                                                                    He's a METROPOLITAN..
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                                                                    • daneblazer
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                                                                      • 09-14-08
                                                                      • 27861

                                                                      #35
                                                                      @jazayerli: J Johnson, 2009: 15.71 Pitches/inning
                                                                      J Parker, 2012: 15.62
                                                                      S Marcum, 2010: 15.58
                                                                      K Medlen, 2013: 15.48
                                                                      *M Harvey, 2015: 14.78*

                                                                      @jazayerli: Or put it another way:

                                                                      Johnson: 3284 pitches
                                                                      Parker: 3155 pitches
                                                                      Medlen: 3049 pitches
                                                                      Marcum: 3043 pitches
                                                                      Harvey: 2459 pitches

                                                                      @jazayerli: If the Mets were to limit Harvey to 3000 pitches, at his current pace of pitches per inning, Harvey could throw *203* innings, not 180.

                                                                      @jazayerli: Without even getting into the wisdom of basing decisions on a sample size of 4 pitchers, USING BORAS' OWN CRITERIA, Harvey can go 203 IP.
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