Finally is Tom Coughlin Fired ?

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  • Sam Odom
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-30-05
    • 58063

    #1
    Finally is Tom Coughlin Fired ?
    Should have been gone a long ago
  • Booya711
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 12-20-11
    • 27329

    #2
    Agreed Sammy...he is done
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    • Bostongambler
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 02-01-08
      • 35581

      #3
      He is friends with the owner. He should be gone yes.
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      • Renegades
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 10-12-11
        • 5290

        #4
        He has nothing to work with. And the Giants should have never got rid of Kevin Gilbride
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        • 44 Mag
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 10-14-13
          • 34490

          #5
          Originally posted by Sam Odom
          Should have been gone a long ago
          Have to agree, his team sucks, he should be gone.
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          • mintpicks79
            SBR MVP
            • 10-04-08
            • 1151

            #6
            No... 2 superbowls. Coaching is not reason here.
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            • navyblue81
              SBR MVP
              • 11-29-13
              • 4143

              #7
              He won't be fired, but I can see him retire after this year. He's up there in age and I think he's at the end of his coaching career.
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              • KRIT
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 01-11-14
                • 12878

                #8
                Honestly, that would be kind of "dirty" to do Tom like that. He won them two SBs with pretty average teams. Doesn't matter who the coach of the Giants is, they'd probably be a 5-6 win team at best. Their roster sucked coming into the year, mix it in with some injuries and their roster is trash.

                If anything, fire Perry Fewell, I don't think he even knew that Russell Wilson is a running QB.
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                • pavyracer
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 04-12-07
                  • 82840

                  #9
                  Need to fire Eli too. Maybe trade him to the Cardinals if they want him.
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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388179

                    #10
                    End of year he'll retire
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                    • Seattle Slew
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                      • 01-02-06
                      • 7373

                      #11
                      GM has done terrible job. If they didn't win the second Super Bowl vs. NE, both of them would be gone after this year. Roster is terrible.
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                      • Scorpion
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-04-05
                        • 7797

                        #12
                        Tom won 2 super bowls, beat belicheat and brady 2 times, Tom is a great coach
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                        • bigtymer56
                          SBR MVP
                          • 07-31-12
                          • 4742

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Scorpion
                          Tom won 2 super bowls, beat belicheat and brady 2 times, Tom is a great coach
                          Far as Im concerned he can stay for as long as he wants...as long as he doesnt put the challenge flag in his socks anymore
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                          • MoneyLineDawg
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-01-09
                            • 13253

                            #14
                            2 miracle wildcard runs to the Superbowl and shit years with no playoffs in all other years

                            Weird team under Coughlin/Eli.....Even the years they won the Superbowl no one thought of them as elite or even close

                            Still, gotta let him go out on his own terms
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                            • laclippers504
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-21-06
                              • 4553

                              #15
                              No sense in firing him now
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                              • Scorpion
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-04-05
                                • 7797

                                #16
                                Nyg +4 over sf WEEK 11
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                                • TheMetsSuck
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 01-14-12
                                  • 6146

                                  #17
                                  he wont reitre folks. guy lives for coaching and will do it until he is fired 100%. he has pretty much stated this
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                                  • GunShard
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 03-05-10
                                    • 10032

                                    #18
                                    Winning 2 super bowls. Their keeping him.
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                                    • Str8Mush4Life
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-25-13
                                      • 1031

                                      #19
                                      Here is my problem with this. During Andy Reid's last year in Philly as a lame duck, the National Media buried the fan base of Philadelphia saying things like "be careful what you wish for" "Philly fans don't deserve a good coach" "Andy deserves to leave on his own terms" after 14 years of producing nothing minus 4 NFC Championship games which don't mean shit (especially when you lose in 2 of them that you were favored in at home). After 10 years in NYC, Coughlin delivered NYC 2 super bowls with less than a dominant team, defeating the Pats twice including one of the most dominating teams I ever witnessed (2007 Pats) and these guys just want to run him out and hang it all on him. penetrate that, if half that had the same fire/attitude that Tom had then maybe they'd have some life..........
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                                      • slacker00
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 10-06-05
                                        • 12262

                                        #20
                                        It's hard to find a parallel example, but the closest was Shanny in DEN who survived 10 years after his last SB.
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                                        • Big Bear
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 11-01-11
                                          • 43253

                                          #21
                                          he won 2 super bowls so he is untouchable.

                                          New Yorkers think just bc they live in a big city the Yankees, Giants, Mets, Yankees , Jets,and knicks should be good every year.

                                          I mean so what they got blown out at Seattle??? that had to be expected its a tremendous home field advantage... they have real fans in Seattle.
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                                          • Big Bear
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 11-01-11
                                            • 43253

                                            #22
                                            Giants fans just be thankful that Eli said he was too good for San Diego... he atleast got yall 2 rings.

                                            How many Rings does Rivers have?

                                            0.
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                                            • Smoke
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 10-09-09
                                              • 48111

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Big Bear
                                              he won 2 super bowls so he is untouchable.

                                              New Yorkers think just bc they live in a big city the Yankees, Giants, Mets, Yankees , Jets,and knicks should be good every year.

                                              I mean so what they got blown out at Seattle??? that had to be expected its a tremendous home field advantage... they have real fans in Seattle.
                                              Checkmate
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                                              • I/O
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 05-26-11
                                                • 7922

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by bigtymer56
                                                Far as Im concerned he can stay for as long as he wants...as long as he doesnt put the challenge flag in his socks anymore
                                                this
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                                                • slacker00
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 10-06-05
                                                  • 12262

                                                  #25
                                                  It doesn't get any easier for the Giants, SF coming to town isn't going to be an easy out.

                                                  If I'm a Giants fan, I stick it out with Coughlin, he seems to have the magic, whatever it is.

                                                  Giants have 3 division games left. They can steady the ship, beat on their rivals, give the fans hope.
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                                                  • Sam Odom
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 10-30-05
                                                    • 58063

                                                    #26
                                                    Ok... "Fire" is too strong

                                                    Retire and let John Mara give him a cushy job title
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                                                    • jjgold
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                      • 388179

                                                      #27
                                                      He had a great run

                                                      The game has passed him buy

                                                      amazing these old guys refuse to give up jobs..greedy $$$
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                                                      • Harry N. Lloyd
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 03-26-08
                                                        • 4810

                                                        #28
                                                        Eli is a joke. Hard to believe he won not 1 but 2 Super Bowls!
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                                                        • TheeArchBishop
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 11-17-11
                                                          • 1328

                                                          #29
                                                          Here is why he will stay:

                                                          1) New Offense put into place - needs time to gel and work
                                                          2) Top guys on offense injured - not Coughlin's fault (Jennings and Cruz)
                                                          3) Rookie RB not panning out (Williams) and Beckham is finally but missed a lot of games early in the year
                                                          4) In offseason, they invested way too much into the secondary. On paper, best secondary in the league. Offensive line, Special Teams, and other areas still a weakness that were barely addressed
                                                          5) Eli coming off surgery, older, and learning the new offense

                                                          All these things you could say are "against" the Giants. I do agree, that they need to shake things up but doubt he will get fired mid-season.
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                                                          • I/O
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 05-26-11
                                                            • 7922

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by TheeArchBishop
                                                            Here is why he will stay:

                                                            1) New Offense put into place - needs time to gel and work
                                                            2) Top guys on offense injured - not Coughlin's fault (Jennings and Cruz)
                                                            3) Rookie RB not panning out (Williams) and Beckham is finally but missed a lot of games early in the year
                                                            4) In offseason, they invested way too much into the secondary. On paper, best secondary in the league. Offensive line, Special Teams, and other areas still a weakness that were barely addressed
                                                            5) Eli coming off surgery, older, and learning the new offense

                                                            All these things you could say are "against" the Giants. I do agree, that they need to shake things up but doubt he will get fired mid-season.
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                                                            • stevenash
                                                              Moderator
                                                              • 01-17-11
                                                              • 65710

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Renegades
                                                              He has nothing to work with. And the Giants should have never got rid of Kevin Gilbride
                                                              This and this.

                                                              I hated when the Giants signed him, thought he was too much drill sergeant for me, but he learned to adapt, toned it down, and he became likeable.

                                                              He's saddled with a QB who is a pick machine, and if you look at his career, was a pretty good QB, not great by any stretch, who has limited mobility, they haven't had a solid running back in almost 10 years when Tiki retired, and as much as I loved Barber, he wasn't elite. Bradshaw was a good back, but really, what kind of run attack has Tom had to work with too?

                                                              You can't put all this on Coughlin, McAdoo is not the savior, I knew that experiment was going to blow up in the Giants face, you can't install that type of offense in one season, especially on that team that isn't their style, you can tell nobody is buy into that west coast offense or whatever you want to call it.

                                                              Tisch and Mara won't fire Coughlin, and Tom has no desire to retire, he will coach two more seasons
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                                                              • stevenash
                                                                Moderator
                                                                • 01-17-11
                                                                • 65710

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Renegades
                                                                And the Giants should have never got rid of Kevin Gilbride
                                                                Nobody got rid of Gilbride.

                                                                Gilbride retired, and no he wasn't pushed into retirement, Gilbride had a contract on the table, with a pen next to it.
                                                                Gilbride wanted one last shot as head coach in NFL.

                                                                His Charger team sucked ass, brutal defense and his QB was Ryan Leaf, how'd that work out for Kevin?

                                                                Nobody got rid of Gilbride, he retired, he wanted to go home to family, and wait for a HC job to be offered to him, if not, he'll stay retired. He took a lot of the blame for the 2012 Giants though.
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                                                                • TheMoneyShot
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                                                                  • 02-14-07
                                                                  • 28672

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Coughlin has done some amazing things with this football team. But I do agree... he needs to go now. Regardless of how many championships and playoff appearances. I don't think the team is responding well to him. I also believe the OC screwing with Eli's head with those new QB techniques wasn't the answer either. A variety of issues... but Coughlin needs to go.
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                                                                  • Sam Odom
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 10-30-05
                                                                    • 58063

                                                                    #34
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                                                                    • BarkingToad
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                                                                      • 08-31-08
                                                                      • 5913

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I never liked Coughlin, but he's delivered the goods twice, so he should stay. Any plan on who the replacement would be, and would he be better?
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