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  • Smoke
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-09-09
    • 48111

    #36
    Originally posted by BigDeem5
    Msu is a real contender

    Zona will be there

    Iowa St has a good shot

    Florida, outside looking in

    Look out for Cincinnati
    cincy
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    • InTheDrink
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 11-23-09
      • 23983

      #37
      Originally posted by Smoke
      cincy
      Look at the fat ghey loser back posting
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      • Smoke
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-09-09
        • 48111

        #38
        Take your meds weirdo
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        • TeeRose
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 03-23-13
          • 821

          #39
          My Top 5

          1- Michigan State
          2- Kansas
          3- Ohio State
          4- Wichita State
          5- Michigan
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          • InTheDrink
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 11-23-09
            • 23983

            #40
            Originally posted by Smoke
            Take your meds weirdo
            The fat ghey guey who can't handle the pressure of posting everyday is calling anyone weird

            Go cash another pizza card so you can eat you fat ghey brokedik fukk
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            • Smoke
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 10-09-09
              • 48111

              #41
              Originally posted by InTheDrink
              The fat ghey guey who can't handle the pressure of posting everyday is calling anyone weird

              Go cash another pizza card so you can eat you fat ghey brokedik fukk
              There's a reason your on meds little boy
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              • InTheDrink
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-23-09
                • 23983

                #42
                Originally posted by Smoke
                There's a reason your on meds little boy
                Good one

                I forgot to mention how fukkin stupid you are. It's hard to keep up
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                • Smoke
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 10-09-09
                  • 48111

                  #43
                  Looks like I struck a nerve
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                  • las8
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-09-09
                    • 1262

                    #44
                    Hawks have enough depth on both sides of the court to be dangerous
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                    • MCOZONE
                      SBR Hustler
                      • 07-11-12
                      • 94

                      #45
                      Michigan State
                      Shockers
                      Zona
                      Badgers
                      OK state
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                      • ChalkyDog
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 10-02-11
                        • 9598

                        #46
                        I have actually never seen a team being ranked 1st on all polls an math models.

                        Arizona is dominating right now.
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                        • RollinDo
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 09-04-13
                          • 13322

                          #47
                          Zona
                          Okie State
                          Kansas
                          Cuse
                          Mich. State
                          ----
                          Sleepers: Iowa - teams that make it or win the NIT championship usually get that experience that helps in the NCAA tourney.
                          Pittsburgh - They will be chomping at the bit to win after an early exit in last year's Dance.
                          I see Iowa getting to Elite 8 or better.
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                          • ChalkyDog
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 10-02-11
                            • 9598

                            #48
                            Originally posted by RollinDo
                            Zona
                            Okie State
                            Kansas
                            Cuse
                            Mich. State
                            ----
                            Sleepers: Iowa - teams that make it or win the NIT championship usually get that experience that helps in the NCAA tourney.
                            Pittsburgh - They will be chomping at the bit to win after an early exit in last year's Dance.
                            I see Iowa getting to Elite 8 or better.
                            Jamie Dixon will always underachieve in March. It's painful to watch.
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                            • ChalkyDog
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 10-02-11
                              • 9598

                              #49
                              Just fukkin around looking at stats.

                              Arizona has 3 players in the top 20 nationally at defensive win shares. That's pretty unheard of. Both Aaron Gordon and Rondae Jefferson are 1 and tied for 2nd respectively in defensive win shares among freshman.

                              Defense holds up well in the tournament.
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                              • Husker36
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-02-08
                                • 3846

                                #50
                                Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                I'd take

                                in no particular order

                                UK
                                Creighton
                                Iowa
                                Kansas
                                Mich St

                                Chalky is gonna bury me here but it's just one kids opinion...
                                Nice to see Creighton on your list. I'm a season ticket holder and this team is a once in a lifetime team for Creighton. McDermott is an amazing college bb player and should have a decent pro career. I heard an interesting thing the other day..... they had the Vegas lines makers rank the top 10 and they had Creighton at #10.
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                                • Husker36
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-02-08
                                  • 3846

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by TeeRose
                                  My Top 5

                                  1- Michigan State
                                  2- Kansas
                                  3- Ohio State
                                  4- Wichita State
                                  5- Michigan
                                  The problem with Wichita State is that they will not be battle tested this season. With Creighton leaving the Mo Valley (Creighton dominated Wichita State last season) there is nobody to challenge Wichita State for the conference title. They had a nice little run last year but I don't see this Wichita State team making it to the sweet 16. My opinion.
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                                  • ChalkyDog
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 10-02-11
                                    • 9598

                                    #52
                                    The final four wont be chalk, and there is a lot of chalk on most peoples list.

                                    There is parity this year. There aren't 4 dominant teams.
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                                    • Soxsfan9
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-30-08
                                      • 3705

                                      #53
                                      Give me Izzo and Zona and you can have the rest!
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                                      • DoggyStyle
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 07-14-13
                                        • 890

                                        #54
                                        Badgers nuff said. Lol

                                        Real list

                                        JayHawks
                                        Cuse
                                        Badgers (homer, but they are damn good)
                                        Zona
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                                        • nvrlose37
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 06-01-12
                                          • 2730

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                          I'd take

                                          in no particular order

                                          UK
                                          Creighton
                                          Iowa
                                          Kansas
                                          Mich St

                                          Chalky is gonna bury me here but it's just one kids opinion...
                                          I like Iowa a lot myself, they can shoot and can run the floor.
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                                          • You mad bro
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 01-15-12
                                            • 16641

                                            #56
                                            msu
                                            kansas
                                            zona
                                            ohio state
                                            oklahoma state
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                                            • GT21Megatron
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 12-20-13
                                              • 10818

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by t-wizzle
                                              bro are you trying to be trendy with iowa and creighton.


                                              Kansas and michigan state for sure are top 5 contenders. Kentucky will be there come march.


                                              Did you not include arizona on purpose? Pitt will be in the conversation as the season progresses.
                                              where is florida? Experience, depth, length?
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                                              • Cuse0323
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 12-09-09
                                                • 30169

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by ChalkyDog
                                                The final four wont be chalk, and there is a lot of chalk on most peoples list.

                                                There is parity this year. There aren't 4 dominant teams.
                                                I do think Zona and Cuse are a step ahead of everyone else but that's just me. Anything can happen obviously but no team scares me this year.
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                                                • brooks85
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 01-05-09
                                                  • 44709

                                                  #59
                                                  5 teams... that's like entering 2 or more brackets for march madness and taking claim if/when one of them wins.

                                                  Pick a team.

                                                  UK
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                                                  • ChalkyDog
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 10-02-11
                                                    • 9598

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by Cuse0323
                                                    I do think Zona and Cuse are a step ahead of everyone else but that's just me. Anything can happen obviously but no team scares me this year.
                                                    Zona and Cuse are absolutely a cut above the rest, but Zona is a bad foul night and Cuse a team going off from deep from an L.

                                                    Tournament is hard to win. Toughest in all sports not named World Cup.
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                                                    • Cuse0323
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 12-09-09
                                                      • 30169

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by ChalkyDog
                                                      Zona and Cuse are absolutely a cut above the rest, but Zona is a bad foul night and Cuse a team going off from deep from an L.

                                                      Tournament is hard to win. Toughest in all sports not named World Cup.
                                                      Yeah, basketball in a one game setting is something unpredictable really. Just like growing up, you play someone one on one, eventually you'll get at least one win.
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                                                      • RichardGeorge
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 04-18-10
                                                        • 640

                                                        #62
                                                        Creighton? LOL... You need to play defense to win in March
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                                                        • RichardGeorge
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 04-18-10
                                                          • 640

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by ChalkyDog
                                                          Zona and Cuse are absolutely a cut above the rest, but Zona is a bad foul night and Cuse a team going off from deep from an L.

                                                          Tournament is hard to win. Toughest in all sports not named World Cup.
                                                          I don't think Arizona's offense is good enough to win 6 games in a row.

                                                          Teams with solid defense, like Ohio State, Michigan State, Villanova or Syracuse would absolutely shut down that mediocre offense.

                                                          Even if they have to play a team like St. Louis in the sweet 16, or Virginia in the 2nd round.. it would be a huge struggle for them.
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                                                          • RichardGeorge
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 04-18-10
                                                            • 640

                                                            #64
                                                            My top 4 most likely would be:

                                                            - Kansas
                                                            - Kentucky
                                                            - Syracuse
                                                            - Villanova


                                                            All 4 teams have a solid mix of great offense and great defense.
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                                                            • ChalkyDog
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 10-02-11
                                                              • 9598

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Cuse0323
                                                              Yeah, basketball in a one game setting is something unpredictable really. Just like growing up, you play someone one on one, eventually you'll get at least one win.
                                                              Just came across a fukked up stat:

                                                              If Syracuse maintains its number 2 ranking, it will tie Dayton for 3rd all time for consecutive weeks at number 2 without reaching number 1.

                                                              Preseason rankings are the only reason the rankings at the top aren't flipped.
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                                                              • ChalkyDog
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 10-02-11
                                                                • 9598

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by RichardGeorge
                                                                I don't think Arizona's offense is good enough to win 6 games in a row.

                                                                Teams with solid defense, like Ohio State, Michigan State, Villanova or Syracuse would absolutely shut down that mediocre offense.

                                                                Even if they have to play a team like St. Louis in the sweet 16, or Virginia in the 2nd round.. it would be a huge struggle for them.
                                                                Depends on what you call mediocre?

                                                                Arizona this year has one of the faster offenses under miller with just around 12 seconds per possession and they just dropped 91 on Arizona State with about 3 minutes of walkons used. 7 guys scoring double digits. You'd be hard pressed to find who the last team that did that in conference play was. Arizona has guys that can score for days.

                                                                Arizona plays at whatever speed. OSU is good and so is MSU. Very good. Arizona and Cuse are just better. Only thing that gets Arizona a loss is foul trouble, which will happen in the tournament.

                                                                At current, Arizona is playing out of their minds. A graphed quantitative ranking that kenpom uses:

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                                                                • ChalkyDog
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 10-02-11
                                                                  • 9598

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Here is something everyone here will get. Arizona is 13-4 ATS on the season. They've been ranked number 1 for many of those covers. You know damn well, that number should be a lot closer to 50:50. Books can't even cap these guys right now, which is amazing considering their profile currently.
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                                                                  • StackinGreen
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 10-09-10
                                                                    • 12140

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Not that it means (at this moment, things can change later, yes) much but no one can match up with Arizona, you're absolutely insane given their history and Sweet 16 run last year to not include them ...


                                                                    Louisville Kid, Winn just went Magic Eight for this year, I'll give you 3 more. Who do you add to make up the 8?
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                                                                    • ChalkyDog
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 10-02-11
                                                                      • 9598

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Stat for Lville kid:

                                                                      According to Kenpom, Louisville last year and the Kansas team that beat Calipari are the best teams to win the title in the last 5 years, have a number higher than what Arizona is at currently.

                                                                      2013: Louisville = 0.9713 / All others were less than 0.9515
                                                                      2012: Kentucky = 0.9690 / All others were less than 0.9545
                                                                      2010: Duke = 0.9667 / Kansas = 0.9635 / All others were less than 0.9395
                                                                      2009: North Carolina = 0.9599 / Memphis = 0.9570 / All others were less than 0.9518
                                                                      2008: Kansas = 0.9753 / Memphis = 0.9661 / All others were less than 0.9537

                                                                      I find this funny only because if you ask anyone, including myself, I would give 2012 Kentucky the nod as the best national title winner in the last 5. Wouldn't even think twice.
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                                                                      • StackinGreen
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 10-09-10
                                                                        • 12140

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Chalk,

                                                                        How good is KenPom at predicting the tournament and/or its winner overall for the last 5-10 years?

                                                                        Thanks
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