New England Patriot Aaron Hernandez arrested and charged with MURDER

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  • shaunovery
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-15-07
    • 18143

    #71
    pats offense may struggle now espically with gronk still injured
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    • Louisvillekid1
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 10-17-07
      • 52143

      #72
      Dam victim text while dying...
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      • ProfaneReality
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 04-14-09
        • 7607

        #73
        Originally posted by 5mike5

        victim text saying Hernandez did it b4 he died
        AKA Dying declaration, and can be used in court.
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        • THE_LOCKSMITH
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          • 08-25-08
          • 7237

          #74
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          • brooks85
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-05-09
            • 44709

            #75
            aaron hernadez just another example of.. when keeping it real goes wrong
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            • 5mike5
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 09-21-11
              • 52058

              #76
              Originally posted by ProfaneReality
              AKA Dying declaration, and can be used in court.
              Yeah I'm almost positive that's what he said
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              • ChalkyDog
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 10-02-11
                • 9598

                #77
                It's all circumstantial evidence.
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                • Capybara
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 08-17-08
                  • 11803

                  #78
                  Well, it's a slam dunk, he killed the guy. Just hope this won't be another OJ situation where he goes scot free. Could go either way.

                  How did my Pats go from the best TE tandem in the league to nobody? And no Wes. :-(
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                  • 5mike5
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 09-21-11
                    • 52058

                    #79
                    Originally posted by ChalkyDog
                    It's all circumstantial evidence.
                    No it isnt
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                    • boeing power
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                      • 03-23-10
                      • 9698

                      #80
                      Originally posted by ChalkyDog
                      It's all circumstantial evidence.
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                      • 5mike5
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 09-21-11
                        • 52058

                        #81
                        Come on judge lock him up til trial with no bail
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                        • ChalkyDog
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                          • 10-02-11
                          • 9598

                          #82
                          Originally posted by 5mike5
                          No it isnt
                          Really, which part isn't?

                          Dying Declaration is hearsay. Admittable hearsay, but hearsay nonetheless.

                          What other evidence do they have that they have presented and isn't circumstantial.
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                          • brooks85
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-05-09
                            • 44709

                            #83
                            sounds like his buddies have turned on him, doesn't matter much what the quality of evidence is. He is connected, apparently seen on video with the gun and, odds are the two others guy already flipped on him. He's done.

                            Now, i dont know if they flipped on him or not ,just heard something about the other 2 guys are "cooperating" with authorities on the radio while i was driving home. That usually means one thing.
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                            • Big Bear
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 11-01-11
                              • 43253

                              #84
                              Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                              Dam victim text while dying...
                              what did the text say ?
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                              • thechaoz
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 10-23-09
                                • 12154

                                #85
                                They have tons of.evidence....he's toast...even the victim texted a relative saying remember who picked me up...
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                                • Deuce
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 01-12-08
                                  • 29843

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by ChalkyDog
                                  Really, which part isn't?

                                  Dying Declaration is hearsay. Admittable hearsay, but hearsay nonetheless.

                                  What other evidence do they have that they have presented and isn't circumstantial.
                                  Dying declaration is hearsay when a time stamp of a text message isn't available. It's easy to determine time of death as well as when the text message was sent/received.
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                                  • Smoke
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 10-09-09
                                    • 48111

                                    #87
                                    Innocent until proven guilty
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                                    • 5mike5
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 09-21-11
                                      • 52058

                                      #88
                                      They don't even have to tell everything but most was circumstantial but with that amount he's finished and not even close. Guess we will all see

                                      No bail gonna happen either
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                                      • 5mike5
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 09-21-11
                                        • 52058

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by Deuce
                                        Dying declaration is hearsay when a time stamp of a text message isn't available. It's easy to determine time of death as well as when the text message was sent/received.
                                        Bingo
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                                        • 5mike5
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 09-21-11
                                          • 52058

                                          #90
                                          They don't have to say all evidence in this hearing. So circumstantial is all they need today and they have more than enough of that
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                                          • ChalkyDog
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                                            • 10-02-11
                                            • 9598

                                            #91
                                            Literally only actual/direct/non-circumstantial evidence is witness accounts of Hernandez being seen with the vicitm prior to the presumptive time of the incident.
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                                            • Louisvillekid1
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 10-17-07
                                              • 52143

                                              #92
                                              wait, but he got shot in the back of his head execution style, how does he text
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                                              • ChalkyDog
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                                                • 10-02-11
                                                • 9598

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by 5mike5
                                                They don't have to say all evidence in this hearing. So circumstantial is all they need today and they have more than enough of that
                                                True, but everything presented, or everything I heard presented is circumstantial. Albeit, it was a terrible recording, and I only heard it once.
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                                                • Coach Potato
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 08-31-11
                                                  • 4303

                                                  #94
                                                  This will be entertaining lol
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                                                  • ChalkyDog
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                                                    • 10-02-11
                                                    • 9598

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                    wait, but he got shot in the back of his head execution style, how does he text
                                                    I didn't hear that, heard a lot of body shots, and others winging him, etc. But, the recording ESPN was presenting was pretty crap and I missed a lot.
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                                                    • 5mike5
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 09-21-11
                                                      • 52058

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by ChalkyDog
                                                      True, but everything presented, or everything I heard presented is circumstantial. Albeit, it was a terrible recording, and I only heard it once.
                                                      Ur right.

                                                      They. Will search high and low for that murder weapon
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                                                      • dilaudid8
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                                                        • 10-19-10
                                                        • 1866

                                                        #97
                                                        it must have been tom brady
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                                                        • Coach Potato
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                                                          • 08-31-11
                                                          • 4303

                                                          #98
                                                          Did he text his name or just NFL?
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                                                          • 5mike5
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 09-21-11
                                                            • 52058

                                                            #99
                                                            He might have had a clue what was going on too. Thinkin he might be on his way to die
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                                                            • 5mike5
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 09-21-11
                                                              • 52058

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by Coach Potato
                                                              Did he text his name or just NFL?
                                                              Both I'm pretty sure. Nfl and Hernandez
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                                                              • ChalkyDog
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                                                                • 10-02-11
                                                                • 9598

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by Deuce
                                                                Dying declaration is hearsay when a time stamp of a text message isn't available. It's easy to determine time of death as well as when the text message was sent/received.
                                                                Dying Declaration is always hearsay. It's under the rules of hearsay.

                                                                It literally has to be hearsay. Because, the dude is dead - so he can't exactly testify.

                                                                Dying declaration is fantastic evidence for the state, for sure.
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                                                                • 5mike5
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 09-21-11
                                                                  • 52058

                                                                  #102
                                                                  That video and audio from the court was just terrible. Didn't know shit that bad was still used
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                                                                  • Coach Potato
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 08-31-11
                                                                    • 4303

                                                                    #103
                                                                    They said he executed him how do u text wen being executed?
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                                                                    • Big Bear
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                                                                      • 11-01-11
                                                                      • 43253

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by Coach Potato
                                                                      They said he executed him how do u text wen being executed?
                                                                      maybe he texted on the car ride...
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                                                                      • Big Bear
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 11-01-11
                                                                        • 43253

                                                                        #105
                                                                        what was the motive? drugs?
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