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  • armanjan
    SBR Rookie
    • 05-04-13
    • 14

    #1
    What the best bookers for arbitrage ??
    please who know , what is the best bookers for arbitrage? what du u think?
  • armanjan
    SBR Rookie
    • 05-04-13
    • 14

    #2
    the best bookmakers for arbitration, who has experience?

    the best bookmakers for arbitration, who has experience?
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    • dealer wins
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 02-03-09
      • 816

      #3
      Betfair v Betdaq. Frequent big differences in the odds see me making £100s an hour.
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      • Fishhead
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-11-05
        • 40179

        #4
        Matchbook...........5Dimes........Herita ge.................Hollywood........Pinn acle
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        • Bleeth
          SBR High Roller
          • 10-10-11
          • 129

          #5
          Well, Pinny is great but unfortunately the arb has at least 2 sides which means you'll need another bookmaker and i can't see it anywhere. If they are slow on moving the lines than they'll limit you (even if they have no intention to move the line they'll still limit you for making that pick), and if they won't limit you than they are too quick to move the line so you wont have the opportunity to make a bet. Sure you can get an arb from time to time but on a regular bases for making some serious money i don't see how)
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          • nyplayer33
            Restricted User
            • 09-27-06
            • 8303

            #6
            This was the good old days
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            • milospinkfloyd
              SBR Rookie
              • 05-12-13
              • 7

              #7
              i see only pinny and SBO + exchanges (smarkets, betdaq, betfair)
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              • djefferis
                SBR MVP
                • 08-16-08
                • 1205

                #8
                Non US...you need matchbook, pinnacle and 5d typically...Betfair also.

                Next, learn to read lines..predict movement and keep a constant eye for injuries or betting trends.

                From there, cherry pick your bonus offers to sweeten the arbitrage.

                US player- forget it...you cant make it on arbitrage alone. Combining this eith bonus whoring, you can eek out a profit...but you need to realize the roll and risk tolerance needed are high...your better off playing stocks.

                You hear of people who did this, and its true...but 90% cant long term. The select 10% vary widely in profitability. Solid gamblers will always make a profit and losers will always lose...arbitrage is just a way to enchance profitable gambling habits.
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                • Fishhead
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 08-11-05
                  • 40179

                  #9
                  Move to Vegas
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                  • RealSlimShady
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 12-24-07
                    • 6249

                    #10
                    Originally posted by djefferis

                    US player- forget it...you cant make it on arbitrage alone. Combining this with bonus whoring, you can eek out a profit...but you need to realize the roll and risk tolerance needed are high...your better off playing stocks.
                    Are you sure?
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                    • harvesters
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 01-31-09
                      • 273

                      #11
                      Originally posted by djefferis
                      Non US...you need matchbook, pinnacle and 5d typically...Betfair also.

                      Next, learn to read lines..predict movement and keep a constant eye for injuries or betting trends.

                      From there, cherry pick your bonus offers to sweeten the arbitrage.

                      US player- forget it...you cant make it on arbitrage alone. Combining this eith bonus whoring, you can eek out a profit...but you need to realize the roll and risk tolerance needed are high...your better off playing stocks.

                      You hear of people who did this, and its true...but 90% cant long term. The select 10% vary widely in profitability. Solid gamblers will always make a profit and losers will always lose...arbitrage is just a way to enchance profitable gambling habits.
                      Can Americans use the exchanges or are they non US?
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                      • aceking
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-07-05
                        • 4782

                        #12
                        willhill and ladbrokes vs pinny ... made six figures from those idiots .
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                        • benandjerry
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 07-01-11
                          • 697

                          #13
                          Originally posted by harvesters
                          Can Americans use the exchanges or are they non US?
                          Pretty sure none of the mentioned in this thread takes US customers.

                          Originally posted by aceking
                          willhill and ladbrokes vs pinny ... made six figures from those idiots .
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                          • djefferis
                            SBR MVP
                            • 08-16-08
                            • 1205

                            #14
                            Originally posted by RealSlimShady
                            Are you sure?
                            For the most part..yes.

                            Are there exceptions in the US market..sure. Find a slow local, put 5 dimes in heritage and 5d as well as a shop like Bovada and you can generate a positive return provided everyone pays and the fees dont add up. This is straight arbitrage play mind you..no bonuses.

                            Now, just bouncing between bookmaker, heritage, 5d and Bovada..no, I stick with you cant make it long term.

                            Your going to be making 5% or less every opportunity you find..your going to quickly be limited to 500 or less if you win at most shops not named heritage..and payouts will cost you 50 bucks every time you take more than 1 (thats 2 arbs right there..and you'll be lucky to find 6-8 a week).

                            Take the same 10k your putting offshore, invesr and sell covered calls 14-30 days out in a high volatility stock and you can earn 20-35% easily yearly. Takes less searching, lower risk and only downside is the IRS reporting.

                            Like I said..arbitrage is a tool...it helps prifitable gamblers win more..but wont make a flawed gambler a winner...losers always find ways to lose their profits.
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                            • relaaxx
                              SBR MVP
                              • 06-15-06
                              • 3281

                              #15
                              Originally posted by djefferis
                              Non US...you need matchbook, pinnacle and 5d typically...Betfair also.

                              Next, learn to read lines..predict movement and keep a constant eye for injuries or betting trends.

                              From there, cherry pick your bonus offers to sweeten the arbitrage.

                              US player- forget it...you cant make it on arbitrage alone. Combining this eith bonus whoring, you can eek out a profit...but you need to realize the roll and risk tolerance needed are high...your better off playing stocks.

                              You hear of people who did this, and its true...but 90% cant long term. The select 10% vary widely in profitability. Solid gamblers will always make a profit and losers will always lose...arbitrage is just a way to enchance profitable gambling habits.
                              stated perfectly - easy money days for US is long gone, at least it was worth it with matchbook, but was nothing like pre-2006..
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                              • psycrow
                                SBR Hustler
                                • 04-04-12
                                • 69

                                #16
                                Originally posted by dealer wins
                                Betfair v Betdaq. Frequent big differences in the odds see me making £100s an hour.
                                anybody else in the world make £100 on arb an hour ?
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                                • caveira
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 08-07-11
                                  • 532

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by psycrow
                                  anybody else in the world make £100 on arb an hour ?
                                  I think nobody did it. If so, "he" wouldn't be wasting time here. Much better things to do with a lot of money...
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                                  • armanjan
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 05-04-13
                                    • 14

                                    #18
                                    between what books can be found arbitration? i'm palying with Pinn Sbo 188 Betfair but between them there is no
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                                    • YPS
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 08-20-12
                                      • 111

                                      #19
                                      Do your homework and find it out for yourself
                                      Why should someone tell you these things?
                                      Lazy bum
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                                      • lecubs28
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 10-17-11
                                        • 638

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by YPS
                                        Do your homework and find it out for yourself
                                        Why should someone tell you these things?
                                        Lazy bum
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                                        • djefferis
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 08-16-08
                                          • 1205

                                          #21
                                          Between any 2 books there can be an arbitrage.

                                          Best bet..american baseball and minor sports for european bettors...the lack of volume in euro sports boost potential for one sided volume...the positioning between bookmakers for early MLB lines helps catch big faves cheaper and the play the dog later to create an arbitrage.

                                          Bottom line..no one here is able to tell you an exact patch to riches..if it were that easy..there wouldnt be a bookie left to gamble with...someone always has to lose.
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                                          • Harmy G
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 02-10-10
                                            • 210

                                            #22
                                            Better off beating the pinnacle closing line rather than trying to make arbs.
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                                            • rangerz2478
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-06-12
                                              • 1194

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by djefferis
                                              For the most part..yes.

                                              Are there exceptions in the US market..sure. Find a slow local, put 5 dimes in heritage and 5d as well as a shop like Bovada and you can generate a positive return provided everyone pays and the fees dont add up. This is straight arbitrage play mind you..no bonuses.

                                              Now, just bouncing between bookmaker, heritage, 5d and Bovada..no, I stick with you cant make it long term.

                                              Your going to be making 5% or less every opportunity you find..your going to quickly be limited to 500 or less if you win at most shops not named heritage..and payouts will cost you 50 bucks every time you take more than 1 (thats 2 arbs right there..and you'll be lucky to find 6-8 a week).

                                              Take the same 10k your putting offshore, invesr and sell covered calls 14-30 days out in a high volatility stock and you can earn 20-35% easily yearly. Takes less searching, lower risk and only downside is the IRS reporting.

                                              Like I said..arbitrage is a tool...it helps prifitable gamblers win more..but wont make a flawed gambler a winner...losers always find ways to lose their profits.
                                              You don't report your gambling profits?
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