2 suggestions for the 256 Man Tournament (more fun and fair)

[fearless]

The first two rounds should be considered as qualifying rounds for the final 64 posters (it would follow the model of the NCAA tournament). I propose this model:

1. In the first round, rather than having one on one matches, everyone would compete with each other. The top 128 posters from the first round would move on to the second round.

2. The second round will be the same as the first round with the top 64 posters qualifying to move on.

3. After the second round, posters will be ranked from 1 to 64 based on their performance from the first two rounds.

4. In the third round, the #1 performer from the first two rounds would take on the 64th best performer, the #2 performer from the first two rounds would take on the 63rd best performer, etc.

This system would bring the whole tournament closer to truly deciding who the best capper is. No offense to Gordon Gecco but in the first tournament he got all the way to final four while only being + in units once in the first four rounds. Meanwhile, xxx, pico, and others had rounds of +4 units or more and they were eliminated in the first two rounds.

I think I'm proposing a more fair and ultimately more fun and satisfying system. Also, it would be less work for the graders because we could use several threads for everyone to post their picks rather than having hundreds. That makes things faster and more efficient. Any thoughts on this?

[fearless]

No comments?

[fiveteamer]

I like it.

[pavyracer]

No comments?

We can't even grade a 20 team contest on time and you want us to believe that SBR will be able to pull out a 254 man contest with complex rules as you propose fearless? You are out of your mind pal!

[fearless]

We can't even grade a 20 team contest on time and you want us to believe that SBR will be able to pull out a 254 man contest with complex rules as you propose fearless? You are out of your mind pal!

The rules I'm proposing are more simple than what's set to happen. I think having 128 different one on one contests in the first round and 64 different one on one contests in the second round is far more complex than just listing everybody together and letting the top 50% in the first two round advance. After that, participants can be ranked from 1 to 64 and given seeds.

Using Excel all of that can be done with the click of a button after copying and pasting everyone's results into the program.

[pavyracer]

The rules I'm proposing are more simple than what's set to happen. I think having 128 different one on one contests in the first round and 64 different one on one contests in the second round is far more complex than just listing everybody together and letting the top 50% in the first two round advance. After that, participants can be ranked from 1 to 64 and given seeds.

Using Excel all of that can be done with the click of a button after copying and pasting everyone's results into the program.

Is an SBR employee reading this? This man is not a rocket scientist and he figured out how easy it is to grade.

[onthewhat]

This is a good idea....so doubtful it gets used.

[fearless]

This is a good idea....so doubtful it gets used.

Thanks. It would certainly be more satisfying. Nothing feels worse than having a really successful round and being knocked out early just because you ran into stiff competition (in other words, bad luck). I think we should take the luck aspect out of it as much as possible.

[losturmarbles]

fearless this makes a lot more sense than what you were wanting last time. (similar)

2 thumbs up

[fearless]

fearless this makes a lot more sense than what you were wanting last time. (similar)

2 thumbs up

Thanks!

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

i like it

[fearless]

Is there anyone who doesn't like this idea?

[fearless]

* double post sorry

[Dark Horse]

The longer the knockout stage of a tournament, the more luck factors in. A format similar to the Champions League soccer could be more interesting. The knockout stages would only start for the final 16 players. Until then let the players fight it out in group phases. You could start out with 32 groups of 8 players, with the top two (or top four) players qualifying for the next round. Continue this type of elimination until the final 16. This would reward skill over short term fluctuation, while preserving the personal element of playing against others throughout all rounds. Hopefully SBR is still open to constructive suggestions where it comes to this new type of tournament.

[fearless]

The longer the knockout stage of a tournament, the more luck factors in. A format similar to the Champions League soccer could be more interesting. The knockout stages would only start for the final 16 players. Until then let the players fight it out in group phases. You could start out with 32 groups of 8 players, with the top two (or top four) players qualifying for the next round. Continue this type of elimination until the final 16. This would reward skill over short term fluctuation, while preserving the personal element of playing against others throughout all rounds. Hopefully SBR is still open to constructive suggestions where it comes to this new type of tournament.

Excellent. I like your idea. There should be a vote to see what format is liked best.

[pavyracer]

The main flow of these tournaments is that the lines are posted at 11:00 am and the games start at 7:00 pm. Unless a way is found to penalize players who chase stale lines no format will be a true measure of someone's capping abilities. One idea will be to assign games each player can bet on with a lottery system or post the lines throughout the day for each game 1 hr before each game starts.

[fearless]

The main flow of these tournaments is that the lines are posted at 11:00 am and the games start at 7:00 pm. Unless a way is found to penalize players who chase stale lines no format will be a true measure of someone's capping abilities. One idea will be to assign games each player can bet on with a lottery system or post the lines throughout the day for each game 1 hr before each game starts.

I don't think it's a true measure of someone's capping abilities without including all moneylines and all available sports. No system would be perfect in this kind of contest, imho.

[ertl09]

another thing would be more picks, such a small sample size , anyone can blindly pick games and end up winning.

[jtuck]

Would there be a way to have the contests on sbrcontests and some how integrate it with sbrlines where a player can log into their account and make their picks by clicking on a game on sbrlines? I'm sure if there is that it would be costly and time consuming but that is the only way i can think of to eliminate stale lines besides a hopeless honor system.

[fearless]

Would there be a way to have the contests on sbrcontests and some how integrate it with sbrlines where a player can log into their account and make their picks by clicking on a game on sbrlines? I'm sure if there is that it would be costly and time consuming but that is the only way i can think of to eliminate stale lines besides a hopeless honor system.

I'm sure somebody could write a program to do that. It would be a big job but if they're gonna have these contests from now on, it would be worth it, imho. The program could automatically grade everything, too.