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If it's fake and you've never seen it before, then why did Justin7 say yesterday that he resigned several days ago? He just had a hunch that a completely fabricated list containing his name and account information would be leaked, and instead of simply disproving the fake list he'd rather quit? If it's a fake list, how have multiple posters (including Justin7 himself) been able to verify that their account balances are correct? ATB are just really good guessers? Also- on a different forum, Justin7 implied that it's been a long time since he personally defended BI. Why did SBR continue to defend BI for so long after Justin7 saw the problems? Why did Justin7 merely clam up and "stop defending" them instead of actively alerting SBR players of the issues? It's hard to believe that Justin7 had long ago received knowledge that changed his opinion of BI and in all that time the knowledge was never passed on to you or John.
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Tough crowd. Stick with the A or better yet the A+ group. If you don't want to play in the contests around here or roll in the SBR sportsbook then don't go Pro. Plenty others will and are doing so in large numbers. We made a mistake and have owned up to it, apologized for it and allowed every voice and shred of evidence to be posted and dissected. Just like you and everyone else we are human and we made a mistake, we will learn from it, make sure its never repeated and do our best to improve.Comment -
John c'mon now its ridiculous to just shrug your shoulders and say what can you do when 80% of the members of BI were SBR referrals. SBR created the entire customer base and promoted BI from start to finish....you were getting a cut from an unbelievable 80% of its members which had signed up to a new book souly on SBRs word that they were solid, joke rating and constant promotion.
Every cent received from BetIslands (which is all money owed SBR members anyway) should be distributed to SBR members as a start...pocketing the money you helped steal from SBR members is not an option sir
I personally like you SBRJohn, I met you at the bash in 2008 and you seem like a great guy, maybe in your shoes I would've done the same thing idk, but at this point more than just a shoulder shrug needs to be offered to the SBR members you helped defraud if you care about SBRs reputation at allComment -
Jon why not dig deep in those pockets and do a lil bailout for posters with a confirmed balance?
Kick back some of that dirty money you guys received.
In real life....if you buy/sell something stolen....you lose your money and the item.
Do the right thing and cancel your next vacation.Comment -
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You are right. Sharps played at BI and kept big balances there. They play at books where they can get 1k out a week and have no track record. I am wrong.Comment -
You have to give sbr John at least that.. He's taking it like a man... He's not deleting or moving all these anti sbr threads... Other forums would've banned half the posters in these threads...Comment -
I'm aware of how affiliates work.. Not sure if sbr considers itself an affiliate but my name is on there but not a correct number so I'm assuming it's someone else (pretty common name). But without a doubt I can guarantee this list is not exhaustive of ppl like me who signed up through contest links on sbr etcComment -
word on the streets is jon already is at another book with ryan. this same book will be offering bailouts. Be careful..Comment -
Can you please post the quote or post? We haven't allowed Pro status from BI in a year maybe longer. If I did I will have another portion of crow, served cold. I never played there and I don't ever remember personally encouraging players into any B book. Of course I'm not trying to minimize the mistakes SBR made, we did promote them, owners with deep pockets, ect., just saying I always try to recommend the A group.Comment -
LOl ...make a living while not having access to your funds. Great point.
I never suggested small balances; I said being able to access my funds. I understand your play and style of play.I disagree. If you add the risk of playing at a d book it minimizes your return on your winnings to make a living. Value vs. risk.
This is like a small stakes poker player turning on Game Show Network and seeing Daniel Negreanu sitting with $1M in chips in front of him, and saying "what bullshit, nobody plays no limit with that kind of money".
Nothing like that. If I have to explain this than it really does not matter. Playing no limit with much bigger stack is a bad bad example. Your whole stack is not at risk only what is in the pot is at risk. You can walk away with your money when you want. Placing a big stack at a d book immediately places your whole stack at risk and that is with out betting 1 game.
Try collecting stamps.
I'm one of the people you claim had to be playing on credit, who had to have been receiving referral fees to have a balance "so big". Only I wasn't on credit and have no relationship to SBR or BI.
This is like a small stakes poker player turning on Game Show Network and seeing Daniel Negreanu sitting with $1M in chips in front of him, and saying "what bullshit, nobody plays no limit with that kind of money".
Sharps play at all kind of books, including some that are rated D- here. There's always a risk-reward factor at play. Sometimes you get it wrong. But keeping balances, as you suggest, small enough where you can cash out in one shot would make it impossible to make a living. It's an OK strategy for a hobbyist, but it's bad advice if you want to win a lot of money.Comment -
If no money was received then SBR received no benefit from the BI fiasco, I am unfamiliar with how the affiliate system works...if you have 10 posters lose 1k each and one poster up 10k does this just cancel out and you get nothing? Is it just a % of the total losses of all posters?Comment -
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it was though a pm its since been deleted. If you keep those stored some where im sure you can find it. it was over a year ago we had this conversation. i have no reason to lie about this. thank god i just stuck with heritage. do what's right atleast give these people points you made money of BI take care of pro members that were apart of BI that's all i ask to make this right they took care of you. it would go along way.Comment -
John its Christmas for gods sake take care of your people. you can use all my points ill ever receive or take away points from all non pros. Merry Christmas i hope you do the right thing.Comment -
Translation: You lost, we won. Get over it. If you don't like it, screw off.
You are now encouraging your user base NOT to use your services. Business 101: You want every single customer to use every single product or service you provide. I don't see any extra incentive being offered for your customers to re-up or stick around. This is so disheartening on so many levels...Comment -
Fukk, i hope it's true..maybe they convinced someone else to back them financially and start a new shop..id take any bailout right now, regardless of the book or their rating..all i have got so far is a short email this morning from comptroller@outlook saying there isnt any news on a bailout. Betislands paid for a couple years, maybe this alliance would be able to pay long enough for me to get my money.Comment -
No it's not it has connections to another sbr book when I can confirmed it will be out until then be careful of phone calls
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