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The actions taken by the owners and mods of SBR in this thread and others are laughable and makes it very likely that they are to cheap to even consult legal counsel or they just dont give a shit.
All I want is Dozer to answer one question. How in the F can claim the list is fake when Justin7 already stated it was legit? Please just tell me either Justin7 is lying or you are lying only one of those answers can be true.Comment -
I'll address both these at the same time. I'm familiar with a lot of what was written in that article as I edited the second version and got information from the sources. I'm not here to break any case open and some might be disappointed what I can't answer due to lack of knowledge. I have leads from credible sources both on Jon's identity and the original backers. Nothing I know or can share at the moment. I am interested in this case, am not someone that can be silenced without killing me, and will be pursuing all option (nothing off the table) in hopes of getting players paid. Whether I have any chances of success I don't know - but stuff speculative I can't answer.
Kind of that Wizard of Oz saying we're not in Kansas anymore. Were not in Texas, Atlanta, Costa Rica or Panama anymore. There is no rules and I will pursue all options. But right now I can only answer questions I know firm answers to.Comment -
Well Bill quoted Jon, which is laughable. SBR is a mess right now. I can assure the list is accurate.Comment -
The person who supplied the data - I take it they don't want you to say anything about them or how they go it?
Edit: guys, please don't allow tto to shit up this thread. I put him on ignore but I still see all the replies. He clearly has a stake in this. No way would a 19 year old spend his whole week defending SBR in dozens of threads. Just ignore the asshole already.Comment -
I think it is pretty clear SBR was 100% the financial backer of BI. No other explanation works unless Justin7 is a fraud.Comment -
Most of what I can answer I have access to 98% of all edits made at SBR, deleted threads and everything since midway into the Heritage/Cory1111 dispute. I can answer questions about deleted threads and things. I can also answer questions for a lot of what was in the ATB article.Comment -
tto827 , when did SBR know BI was insolvent and should have reported it to us ?Comment -
There are multiple version of the data. Jon sincerely did shop looking for help while insolvent. The fact BetIslands was insolvent was known by some parties parties since around November 20 (rough date by memory without checking notes). That knowledge became somewhat wide spread around December 2 (rough date without checking notes). So the data to be leaked was available several places.
I did work on the article with a source that has different data (edit: to clarify different meaning obtained from another source, could be a pure match - but does have more details than I had) than I have seen, but what I spot checked matched. The data I've been privy to comes from an involved player, and a Costa Rican clerk. Neither wishes for their identity to be revealed. It was likely obtained from a sportsbook owner.Comment -
Find it hard to believe if Jon was shopping for investors in nov that sbr did not hear about thisComment -
I know of a claimed first person account that would indicate Jon has been saying this since at latest mid to late November (edit: will work on trying to narrow down a better date). I can't confirm the accuracy but can say that part of the story didn't just appear in the past few days.Last edited by propplayer; 12-22-12, 02:29 AM.Comment -
Originally Posted by KGambler
Jon has repeatedly said that this original backer ran into "legal troubles".
Seems like basic business financing to get more than 1 investor. Especially since the original financier seemed not all on the up and up. Once the business started picking up why wasn't this issue dealt with?Comment -
Multiple parties had access to the BI data base. It will be interesting to see who is lying when that comes out.Comment -
Prop, that list is all of BI's funded accounts or is it just supposed to be the ones who had SBR as the affiliate?Comment -
Well folks I fukkin give up, you know what, you win. Hope that makes your night. I've been trying to get SBR a fair shake here, but that clearly isn't going to happen when the ropes are up and the nooses are ready to go. My final point will be that the BTB article from Nov 11 is a fraud.
All I have ever asked for is PROOF and no one has supplied it. Boeing supplies lots of information, that with one missing piece could bury SBR for their role in this, but the whole thing hasn't been tied together yet, and I'm not sure it will, but who knows.
Everyone wants to find somewhere to stick the blame, and conspiracy theories are fun. I've been stuck on my ass after getting my wisdom teeth pulled two days ago, so I've had a lot of time to post. I hope the best part of your lives continue to be ganging up and bashing SBR from behind a computer screen.
You all will respond with how much I post, and I don't have a defense that'll satisfy you guys, I enjoy posting here and having intelligent discussions, and getting some insight on gambling. But isn't that why we are all here?
Bring out the worst you got, cause I won't respond and don't care, your need to call me a shill and bash me as opposed to what I say says it all.Comment -
Thanks tto
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SBR is in a tough position here and seems to be trying to find a story that works. John was saying the rating was accurate just today but removed some of it: example here:
Actually here's the first page of that deleted thread.Comment
