If 93% of White People voted for Romney...

[The Madcap]

There's nothing inherently religious about marriage on a fundamental level from the government's POV. Why do you think you can go get married at city hall? There's no requirement that you get married in a religious setting. There are benefits that come with marriage that are not religious based.



Completely and utterly false. If this were true there would be no marriage benefits that were not associated with children. Sadly, there are tax benefits for filing jointly with a spouse. There are healthcare benefits for state and federal employees. If the whole basis of marriage rewards was based on couples who procreate they would only apply to those that do, they do not.



What does even mean? Gay marriage laws prevent people from deciding what homosexuality is? Do you mean this in a philosophical sense? I'm pretty sure pretty much everyone agrees that homosexuality is having sexual feelings or relations with someone of the same sex.



How does someone else's choice to have homosexual sex or marry someone of the same sex negatively effect your life. The answer is it doesn't, just like when someone gets straight married it has no effect on your life. This statement can't really be reconciled in my mind in any way that doesn't result in me thinking you're a bigot, which is actually pretty obvious from your whole post.



How is allowing gay marriage more government? Marriage isn't government at all except in so much as marriages are recorded and benefits given. I don't understand this part of your incoherent rant so I'll just end with this, three blue states voted to allow gay marriage this election, and another voted to not ban it. As I heard on the radio today, the number of states you can now gay marry in = 8, the number of states you can marry your cousin = 25.

Shadious,

I really wish you'd bother to do some goddam research before you go off and start trying to tell people they are wrong about shit.

1) "Marriage" was once only a religious status. The concept was then later adopted into legal language so as to establish rights for persons getting out of marriage. Basically, it's legal definition only exists because of the invention of divorce. That, and husbands who abused their wives.

2) "Completely and utterly false. If this were true there would be no marriage benefits that were not associated with children."

NO SHITFUK, it's true. Look it up. It's called an "incentive." Maybe you've heard of the term. Marriage "benefits" are the result of legal theorists who back in the day decided that marriage promoted a stabler society with regards to the acceptance of authoritarian rule as well as steady population growth. Things quite desirable for a nation ever so concerned with spreading its dominion over a continent. There's plenty of legal scholarship on the issue and I'm sure I could go digging through my lawbooks and find a bunch of that shit for you, but fukk that. Uneducated assholes who go around talking shit about others being "completely and utterly false" without first taking the time to research such a claim don't deserve that kind of respect.

Also, and this is a very crucial thing to understand: not all laws were written in the same era in which you grew up. [READ: There was a time before condoms shithole.] A time when marriage benefits didn't have to be "associated with children" because back then it was pretty much a fukking given. Believe it or not, government officials used to write laws with a bit more respect and honor for the populace, and tempting folks to have children faster simply for the sake of monetary relief would have seemed a bit undignified. Wouldn't you say? Or maybe not. Apparently you can't read a damn thing that conflicts with your view of the world without ensuring yourself it must be inaccurate.

There's an old saying that goes something like this... "The right to be critical is only born to those who have taken the time to make sure they are right." It comes from a time long before the television and internet, back thousands of years ago to the ancient Greeks in a time when democracy had to be conducted in person at a specific time and place. Back then, in a mob of 1,000 people having traveled days by horseback, efficiency was a top priority. There wasn't the time or patience to let ignorant assholes open their mouths and get in the way of business. So if you had to interrupt someone, or correct someone's point, you had better been right. Or you stood the risk of getting flogged or thrown of a cliff. Certainly no one was going to listen to your ass anymore. Now granted, we don't have the dire need for such rules here today on internet forums, but that same sort of respect for other people's time and efforts would still be greatly appreciated.

3) "What does this even mean?"

There are those who believe homosexuality is a behavior that is not innate. There are others who believe that innate behaviors can become learned in others. Gay marriage laws, whether you understand the Constitutional implications or not, are designed to one day legally define sexual orientation in such a way that those who refute such definition could stand to suffer civil litigation and possibly even criminal punishment.

4) You only think I'm a bigot because you don't give a shit about people who think differently than yourself. Which actually makes YOU the bigot. And I'm sure that prejudice of yours will find it hard to reconcile with the fact that I voted against the recent anti-gay marriage amendment here in North Carolina. See, I'm friends with gay people, but that doesn't mean I can't separate my support and love for them from seeing/understanding the inevitable consequences of poorly worded (or deliberately diabolical) laws. These laws are generally a bit more complicated than some "YAY FOR GAYS!"/"fukking queers" argument. Perhaps if you weren't so blinded by prejudice for those you disagree with you would see that.

And yes, sexual orientation can negatively impact people's lives. Maybe you've never worked in an office place where it was a problem, but many Americans have. Don't get me wrong, it's really not the orientation per se that's the problem, but rather how one's sex life or orientation becomes a public distraction, unfortunately, discrimination lawyers have seen to it that when it comes to homosexuals there's no distinction in a court of law. There are countless other examples that extend beyond the workplace, but you don't strike me as either willing or competent enough to grasp them. Sorry. I'm not trying to be an asshole, perhaps you can tell my patience in responding to your bullshit ignorance/or stupidity is running out.

5) "How is gay marriage more government?"

Well, for one you are creating a whole new status for a whole new batch of people which was previously unattainable. This in and of itself creates more government. Not for homosexuals mind you, just in general. Not to nit-pick, but anytime you change a law to grant somebody something that will require more paperwork it equals more government. This of course isn't the unique problem here and I've never heard of anyone suggest it as such. The problem lies in the language of these laws. The "devil's in the details" as they like to say. Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the history of homosexuals and their struggle for equality in this country. I suggest you go take some time and read into it. Specifically focus on anything that deals with "identity" issues or the "search for validation." Perhaps when you are done reading some of that you will come to better understand the people pushing most desperately for gay rights and why. (Hint: It's not about tax breaks or health benefits.) And maybe then you'll come to see some very hazardous conflicts that might arise from passing these laws. Or not. Maybe you've got a rooster up your ass.

[Avenger]

There is no greater mistake I have seen in politics than the way somes republicans manipulate the Christian right on issues like abortion, go back and really look at the history of the republican party over the last 30 years with abortion, look at Ronald Reagans record in California and the presidency on abortion. Reagan may have been a social conservative in speech but in practice he was not. He was a fiscal conservative. The republicans have got to get away from these social issues and concentrate on fiscal conservatism.

I disagree. I've always used abortion rights as a way to gauge a candidate's spirituality, it has to do with the sanctity of life, which goes hand-in-hand with, "do they believe there is a God?" Which is very important to me, as a person.

But since the Bush administration, I've thrown the abortion issue out the window, as he has no problems killing hundreds of thousands in the middle-east for oil, but he is still pro-life.

Politics these days are really the lesser of two evils. That's why I don't get involved. I admit, Romney had the better plan, and the better track record, but I didn't believe a word he said. How was he going to cut ties with China and bring more jobs here? The consequences would be horrendous, not only that... Americans love their iphones, and Walmart. The key to everything is for Americans to lower their standard of living, which will never happen. He has to support big business (which all have factories oversees), yet he has to revitalize the economy? Not going to happen. Only thing he would do is cut federal aid.

Then he plays the conservative, moral, pro-choice card, but he's A MORMON? sorry, but as an ex-fundy Christian myself, Mormons are a few steps away from the anti-christ (at least in a fundy's mind).

Romney was never going to win. Too many contradictions. He gave too many reasons to NOT vote for him. And I completely agree with Mac4lyfe observation, he alienated too many people by trying to go after the white majority. Hate the game, not the player, etc... but you gotta appease the people you don't "like" if you're going to be in office, at least throw them a bone, or pick one "deviant" culture to support you. But alienating the poor, women, gays, and minorities was a huge mistake.

[The Madcap]

You say "I really dont care about banning abortion" but use terms like protecting "unborn" children from "state sponsored murder" and protecting innocent souls from tyrannical mothers? That doesnt make any sense.

There is no greater mistake I have seen in politics than the way somes republicans manipulate the Christian right on issues like abortion, go back and really look at the history of the republican party over the last 30 years with abortion, look at Ronald Reagans record in California and the presidency on abortion. Reagan may have been a social conservative in speech but in practice he was not. He was a fiscal conservative. The republicans have got to get away from these social issues and concentrate on fiscal conservatism.

If the republican party really wanted abortion to be illegal it would have been by now, most republicans, like most americans, are fiscally conservative and pretty moderate on social issues even if the rhetoric doesn't always reflect that.

Why doesn't that make any sense? Because the only people you've ever heard use such language are pro-life? That doesn't make the language inaccurate. So now that you've met someone who uses such language and is cool with women killing their babies, hopefully it will now start making sense.

Although I can totally understand your confusion, most liberals (IE: pro-choicers) can only stand to live in a world where everything they do is seen as nice and cuddly and warm and rarely do they have the balls to call their stone cold actions for what they truly are. Probably has something to do with the birth of progressivism in the beginning of the 20th century and the Woodrow Wilson administration and eugenics. But anyway, that's another story.

I don't understand your comment about the GOP manipulating the Christian Right being a mistake. What, they were supposed to give into their demands? Manipulating the Christian Right is one of the easiest and smartest things the GOP has ever done. The only real problem is that far too many academic/educated liberals are too dumb to realize it and in being unable to understand the GOP's actions they get all pissed off and defensive when otherwise they might be in a position to better see the distance on social issues really isn't that wide and thus exists much greater potential for bipartisanship/compromise on everything else.

Don't get me wrong, I personally think the GOP's inclusion of religious talk in their political platform has held them back from making a real difference on the national level for years, but it's no worse than what the Dems do with their conflict theory bullshit. Both groups pander. It's sad, it sucks, we deserve better, but from a tactical standpoint, it's hard to argue that rousing the spirits of religious people with talk of social issues hasn't helped the GOP win some elections.

Some might argue that had Romney spoken more of social issues in his campaign he would have beaten Obama handedly. I don't know if that's true, but it wouldn't have surprised me. The country is actually less pro-choice than ever before. And while such a campaign would have been even more bitter and divisive than the one we just had, liberals are always going to bitch about whatever the Republicans do until they are blue in the face. In power, out of power, liberals are always bitching about shit. If you're the GOP, why not let them bitch about shit that at least motivates your own guys to the polls? It might be shitty strategy for accomplishing anything once in office, but at least you'd have the office. Holding a tenor of moderatecy and bipartisanship matters not if you can't get elected.

[ChalkyDog]

Why doesn't that make any sense? Because the only people you've ever heard use such language are pro-life? That doesn't make the language inaccurate. So now that you've met someone who uses such language and is cool with women killing their babies, hopefully it will now start making sense.

Although I can totally understand your confusion, most liberals (IE: pro-choicers) can only stand to live in a world where everything they do is seen as nice and cuddly and warm and rarely do they have the balls to call their stone cold actions for what they truly are. Probably has something to do with the birth of progressivism in the beginning of the 20th century and the Woodrow Wilson administration and eugenics. But anyway, that's another story.

I don't understand your comment about the GOP manipulating the Christian Right being a mistake. What, they were supposed to give into their demands? Manipulating the Christian Right is one of the easiest and smartest things the GOP has ever done. The only real problem is that far too many academic/educated liberals are too dumb to realize it and in being unable to understand the GOP's actions they get all pissed off and defensive when otherwise they might be in a position to better see the distance on social issues really isn't that wide and thus exists much greater potential for bipartisanship/compromise on everything else.

Don't get me wrong, I personally think the GOP's inclusion of religious talk in their political platform has held them back from making a real difference on the national level for years, but it's no worse than what the Dems do with their conflict theory bullshit. Both groups pander. It's sad, it sucks, we deserve better, but from a tactical standpoint, it's hard to argue that rousing the spirits of religious people with talk of social issues hasn't helped the GOP win some elections.

Some might argue that had Romney spoken more of social issues in his campaign he would have beaten Obama handedly. I don't know if that's true, but it wouldn't have surprised me. The country is actually less pro-choice than ever before. And while such a campaign would have been even more bitter and divisive than the one we just had, liberals are always going to bitch about whatever the Republicans do until they are blue in the face. In power, out of power, liberals are always bitching about shit. If you're the GOP, why not let them bitch about shit that at least motivates your own guys to the polls? It might be shitty strategy for accomplishing anything once in office, but at least you'd have the office. Holding a tenor of moderatecy and bipartisanship matters not if you can't get elected.

I disagree with many of your opinions, but at least you use a rational tone, and don't posture with rhetoric and egregious misinformation.

Good luck, pal. I hope the Repubs get their shit together.

[Shaudius]

1) "Marriage" was once only a religious status. The concept was then later adopted into legal language so as to establish rights for persons getting out of marriage. Basically, it's legal definition only exists because of the invention of divorce. That, and husbands who abused their wives.

And my point was, why should we care what marriage was thousands of years ago? Secular marriage has been recognized by governments for hundreds of years, so your argument really boils down to, because the churches defined marriage 2,000 years ago, we should ignore the fact that marriage can be completely secular and has been that way for hundreds of years, yeah, that's compelling.

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NO SHITFUK, it's true. Look it up. It's called an "incentive." Maybe you've heard of the term. Marriage "benefits" are the result of legal theorists who back in the day decided that marriage promoted a stabler society with regards to the acceptance of authoritarian rule as well as steady population growth. Things quite desirable for a nation ever so concerned with spreading its dominion over a continent. There's plenty of legal scholarship on the issue and I'm sure I could go digging through my lawbooks and find a bunch of that shit for you, but fukk that. Uneducated assholes who go around talking shit about others being "completely and utterly false" without first taking the time to research such a claim don't deserve that kind of respect.

Way to again miss the point of my argument. I never once said that marriage wasn't given incentives to encourage it, of course it was. What I did say is that it wasn't created specifically to encourage marriage THAT INVOLVED CHILDREN. Why is this important you ask? Because in the post I was responding to you made the assertion that, "Gov't laws that "reward" marriage are wholly founded from utilitarian principles that do not apply to individuals who cannot procreate" . But the fact of the matter is that no laws that I know of require procreation in order to receive marriage benefits, and homosexual unmarried people can adopt, and no law I know treats officially adopted children any differently than biological children. A hetrosexual couple doesn't suddenly lose the right to marriage because the woman is sterile for whatever reason.

[QUOTE=The Madcap;16690104]

Also, and this is a very crucial thing to understand: not all laws were written in the same era in which you grew up. [READ: There was a time before condoms shithole.]

Condoms have existed since at least the founding of this country(to counteract your example). But regardless, why should we keep laws that were written in a different era? If society and its values were different, what makes them inherently better? The fact of the matter is this isn't an argument we'll be having 30 years from now because people who are mostly older who cling to idea that are founding in honestly bigotry will start to die off and the younger generation will increasingly recognize gay marriage.

A time when marriage benefits didn't have to be "associated with children" because back then it was pretty much a fukking given. Believe it or not, government officials used to write laws with a bit more respect and honor for the populace, and tempting folks to have children faster simply for the sake of monetary relief would have seemed a bit undignified. Wouldn't you say? Or maybe not. Apparently you can't read a damn thing that conflicts with your view of the world without ensuring yourself it must be inaccurate.

Your argument makes no sense, first you say that the laws were written such that they don't apply to those who procreate. But then say that of course they didn't write the laws that way because it would be undignified. You're making an assertion with no support, show me one piece of evidence that the reason they didn't write laws specifically to benefit procreation was because they didn't want to seem "undignified."

There are those who believe homosexuality is a behavior that is not innate. There are others who believe that innate behaviors can become learned in others. Gay marriage laws, whether you understand the Constitutional implications or not, are designed to one day legally define sexual orientation in such a way that those who refute such definition could stand to suffer civil litigation and possibly even criminal punishment.

What? Give me an example of how this could be the case. What civil litigation or criminal punishment could possibly follow from gay marriage that wasn't directly related to the marriage itself that would not equally apply to the unmarried homosexuals.

4) You only think I'm a bigot because you don't give a shit about people who think differently than yourself. Which actually makes YOU the bigot. And I'm sure that prejudice of yours will find it hard to reconcile with the fact that I voted against the recent anti-gay marriage amendment here in North Carolina. See, I'm friends with gay people, but that doesn't mean I can't separate my support and love for them from seeing/understanding the inevitable consequences of poorly worded (or deliberately diabolical) laws. These laws are generally a bit more complicated than some "YAY FOR GAYS!"/"fukking queers" argument. Perhaps if you weren't so blinded by prejudice for those you disagree with you would see that.

All of the arguments you've made against gay marriage so far in your post have been that its not consistent with a religious institution that was established by one church thousands of years ago, and that it discourages traditional families. This all assumes that marriage between two men or two women is something that you have a personal stake in, as in, if Joe and Steve over there get married it personally affects you, you have interjected yourself and your morality into Joe and Steve's lives and said their behavior is wrong. Anti-gay marriage positions are no different than the miscegenation laws of old, they are routed in bigotry in a lot of cases.

And yes, sexual orientation can negatively impact people's lives. Maybe you've never worked in an office place where it was a problem, but many Americans have. Don't get me wrong, it's really not the orientation per se that's the problem, but rather how one's sex life or orientation becomes a public distraction, unfortunately, discrimination lawyers have seen to it that when it comes to homosexuals there's no distinction in a court of law. There are countless other examples that extend beyond the workplace, but you don't strike me as either willing or competent enough to grasp them. Sorry. I'm not trying to be an asshole, perhaps you can tell my patience in responding to your bullshit ignorance/or stupidity is running out.

This is a common argument you see from people. And its complete bullshit, basically your whole sentence boils down to as I understand it, "gay people can't keep it in their pants like straight people can." That argument is complete and utter bullshit. Because someone asks effeminate and they're gay that bothers you on a personal level. That's bigotry of the first order. If someone is acting inappropriately in the workplace it doesn't matter if they are straight or gay, unwanted advances and touching are unwanted advances and touching, if it doesn't rise to the level of actual harassment, someone else's decisions about who to have sex with have absolutely no bearing on you. \

Well, for one you are creating a whole new status for a whole new batch of people which was previously unattainable. This in and of itself creates more government. Not for homosexuals mind you, just in general. Not to nit-pick, but anytime you change a law to grant somebody something that will require more paperwork it equals more government.

No it doesn't and frankly that argument is ridiculous. It doesn't create a new status, it gives more people the right to an existing status, namely marriage. Were your argument to be true it would mean that if we changed the voting age from 18 to 16 it would create more government. Which I suppose is strictly true in the sense that we'd probably need more people to handle the extra voter turnout, but if that's your argument then it completely invalidates your previous argument that marriage benefits were created to encourage people to get married, if the government was concerned about there being too many people getting married they wouldn't give benefits for it in the first place and the idea that more people doing some activity the government is involved in overseeing is inherently more government is ludicrous.

[brooks85]

Everyone in America won today.

The republican party is lesser for
their 1950's world view.

The changing demographics are a reality.

yeah.. except for those of us who actually own a business and want quality healthcare.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Another statistic that hurts Republicans is that 20%+ of Americans are not religious and increasing every year. Pushing all these social issues based on religion will not endear you to this demographic. The young generation is very secular.

[Darkside Magick]

Another statistic that hurts Republicans is that 20%+ of Americans are not religious and increasing every year. Pushing all these social issues based on religion will not endear you to this demographic. The young generation is very secular.

I think people has wise up to the story of some make believe "God" and Bible fairy tales. Only going to increase with next generation

[Greget]

Pale, stale, and male. America is moving forward and all you have left is your god and your gun. So sad.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I personally believe in God but it's clear that more and more people do not. It's a tough sell to convince someone away from their beliefs.

I think people has wise up to the story of some make believe "God" and Bible fairy tales. Only going to increase with next generation

[No coincidences]

I personally believe in God but it's clear that more and more people do not. It's a tough sell to convince someone away from their beliefs.

A lot of that stems from how people are raised. When less young couples go to Church and believe, it's hard to expect kids to follow in different footsteps. The decaying weekly Church attendance has been the contributing factor to lack of belief. It's not like there was ever "evidence" with prior generations. I think it's just more laziness and selfishness with their time than anything else.

[opie1988]

Madcap.....I have decided you are now the smartest poster on the forum. I'm a big fan.

Excellent stuff, pal. Keep it up.

[Tseay]

Some of you people are unreal. Exactly who do you think is gonna pay the $20 Ruskin TRILLION dollars the ambush started spending and the dumbocrats elevated time moron art status. You are. If you take all of the rich people's income for a year, a 100%tax, the US govt will run out of money in 45 days. Put on your dunce hat, you bought it.

[SpeedPro]

the race thing is big for a lot of people i guess. i just wanted america to stop borrowing so much money from china, a business man is what i think america needs. why fiscal conservatives have to be lumped in with all the religious crap that goes along with the gop i don't know.

4 more years. try to keep it cheap obama, ok.

True. Warren Buffet said no when asked to sit on a council to help. He knows that people aren't ready to deal with someone who presides like a business man. I would like to see if it would work one day though.

[Big Bear]

No I'm just saying what a coincidence!

no coincidences

[jjgold]

Everyone regretting it now
Dumb college kids

[crustyme]

jj stop being a suckup retard and educate yourself...



What follows is a PARTIAL list of Obama’s accomplishments so far. Unlike many such lists, there is a link to a citation supporting every single one.
Legislative Prowess
Despite the characterizations of some, Obama’s success rate in winning congressional votes on issues was an unprecedented 96.7% for his first year in office. Though he is often cited as superior to Obama, President Lyndon Johnson’s success rate in 1965 was only 93%. http://n.pr/i3d7cY
Fiscal Responsibility
Within days after taking office, he signed an Executive Order ordering an audit of government contracts, and combating waste and abuse. http://1.usa.gov/dUvbu5
Created the post of Chief Performance Officer, whose job it is to make operations more efficient to save the federal government money. http://n.pr/hcgBn1
On his first full day, he froze White House salaries. http://on.msnbc.com/ewJUIx
He appointed the first Federal Chief Information Officer to oversee federal IT spending. http://www.cio.gov
He committed to phasing out unnecessary and outdated weapons systems, and also signed the Weapons Systems Acquisition Reform Actto stop waste, fraud and abuse in the defense procurement and contracting system. http://bit.ly/hOw1t1 http://bit.ly/fz8GAd
Through an executive order, he created the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform. http://bit.ly/hwKhKa
Improving the Economy, Preventing Depression
He pushed through and signed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, otherwise known as “the stimulus package,” despite the fact that not one Republican voted for that bill. In addition, he launched recovery.gov, so that taxpayers could track spending from the Act. http://1.usa.gov/ibiFSs http://1.usa.gov/e3BJMk
In his first year, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act created and sustained 2.1 million jobs and stimulated the economy 3.5%. http://reut.rs/i46CEE
He completed the massive TARP financial and banking rescue plan, and recovered virtually all of its costs. http://1.usa.gov/eA5jVS http://bit.ly/eCNrD6
He created the Making Home Affordable home refinancing plan. http://1.usa.gov/goy6zl
He oversaw the creation of more jobs in 2010 alone than Bush did in eight years. http://bit.ly/hrrnjY
He oversaw a bailout of General Motors that saved at least 1.4 million jobs, and put pressure on the company to change its practices, resulting in GM returning to its place as the top car company in the world. http://lat.ms/zIJuQx
He also doubled funding for the Manufacturing Extension Partnership which is designed to improve manufacturing efficiency. http://bit.ly/eYD4nf
He signed the Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act giving the federal government more tools to investigate and prosecute fraud in every corner of the financial system. It also created a bipartisan Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission to investigate the financial fraud that led to the economic meltdown. http://abcn.ws/g18Fe7
He signed the CC Accountability, Responsibility and Disclosure (CARD) Act, which was designed to protect consumers from unfair and deceptive CC practices. http://1.usa.gov/gIaNcS
He increased infrastructure spending after years of neglect. http://bit.ly/f77aOw
He signed the Helping Families Save Their Homes Act, expanding on the Making Home Affordable Program to help millions of Americans avoid preventable foreclosures. The bill also provided $2.2 billion to help combat homelessness, and to stabilize the housing market. http://bit.ly/eEpLFn
Through the Worker, Home Ownership, and Business Assistance Act of 2009, he and Congressional Democrats provided tax credits to first-time home buyers, which helped the U.S. housing market recovery. http://bit.ly/dZgXXw http://bit.ly/gORYfL
He initiated a $15 billion plan designed to encourage increased lending to small businesses.
http://1.usa.gov/eu0u0b
He created business.gov, which allows for online collaboration between small businesses and experts re managing a business. (The program has since merged with SBA.gov.) http://www.business.gov
He played a lead role in getting the G-20 Summit to commit to a $1.1 trillion deal to combat the global financial crisis. http://nyti.ms/gHlgp5
He took steps to improve minority access to capital. http://bit.ly/f9xVE7
He created a $60 billion bank to fund infrastructure improvements such as roads and bridges. http://bit.ly/e1SSaQ
He implemented an auto industry rescue plan, and saved as many as 1 million jobs. http://bit.ly/ibhpxr Many are of the opinion that he saved the entire auto industry, and even the economy of the entire Midwest. http://bit.ly/gj7mt5
Through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, he saved at least 300,000 education jobs, such as teachers, principals, librarians, and counselors that would have otherwise been lost. http://1.usa.gov/ez30Dc
He dismantled the Minerals Management Service, thereby moving forward to cut ties between energy companies and the government. http://nyti.ms/bw1MLu
Provided funding to states and the Department of Homeland Security to save thousands of police and firefighter jobs from being cut during the recession. http://bit.ly/g0IKWR
He used recovered TARP money to fund programs at local housing finance agencies in California, Florida, Nevada, Arizona and Michigan. http://on.msnbc.com/i1i8eV
Crafted an Executive order establishing the President’s Advisory Council on Financial Capability to assist in financial education for all Americans. http://bit.ly/eyqsNE
Wall Street Reforms and Consumer Protection
Ordered 65 executives who took bailout money to cut their own pay until they paid back all bailout money. http://huff.to/eAi9Qq
He pushed through and got passed Dodd-Frank, one of the largest and most comprehensive Wall Street reforms since the Great Depression. http://bit.ly/hWCPg0 http://bit.ly/geHpcD
Dodd-Frank also included the creation of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau http://1.usa.gov/j5onG
He made it so that banks could no longer use YOUR money to invest in high-risk financial instruments that work against their own customers’ interests. http://bit.ly/fnTayj
He supported the concept of allowing stockholders to vote on executive compensation. http://bit.ly/fnTayj
He wholly endorsed and supported the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act of 2009 that would close offshore tax avoidance loopholes. http://bit.ly/esOdfB http://bit.ly/eG4DPM
He made a deal with Swiss banks that permits the US government to gain access to the records of criminals and tax evaders. http://bit.ly/htfDgw
He established a Consumer Protection Financial Bureau designed to protect consumers from financial sector excesses. http://bit.ly/fnTayj
He oversaw and then signed the most sweeping food safety legislation since the Great Depression. http://thedc.com/gxkCtP
Civil Rights and Anti-Discrimination
He advocated for and signed theMatthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act, which made it a federal crime to assault anyone based on his or her sexual orientation or gender identity. http://bit.ly/gsMSJ7
He pushed through, signed and demanded the Pentagon enact a repeal of the discriminatory “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” policy that forced soldiers to lie to fight for their country, and put our troops at risk by disqualifying many qualified soldiers from helping. http://bit.ly/fdahuH http://bit.ly/mZV4Pz
He appointed Kareem Dale as the first ever Special Assistant to the President for Disability Policy. http://1.usa.gov/fi5IY0
Helped Congress pass and signed the Civil Rights History Act. http://bit.ly/th0JC8
He extended benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees. http://1.usa.gov/g2RLCj
He’s appointed more openly gay officials than anyone in history. http://bit.ly/g1lA7D
He issued a Presidential Memorandum reaffirming the rights of gay couples to make medical decisions for each other. http://1.usa.gov/aUueGT
He established a White House Council on Women and Girls http://1.usa.gov/rFfqMM
He signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, restoring basic protections against pay discrimination for women and other workers. This was after the GOP blocked the bill in 2007. Only 5 Republican Senators voted for the bill. http://bit.ly/fT3Cxg
Wrote and signed an Executive Order establishing a White House Council on Women and Girls to ensure that all Cabinet and Cabinet-level agencies evaluate the effect of their policies and programs on women and families. http://bit.ly/e1puTk
He expanded funding for the Violence Against Women Act. http://1.usa.gov/dSbI0x
Under his watch, National Labor Relations Board has issued final rules that require all employers to prominently post employees’ rights where all employees or prospective employees can see it, including websites and intranets, beginning November 2011. http://1.usa.gov/qu2EhQ
Fighting Poverty
He provided a $20 billion increase for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (Food Stamps). http://nyti.ms/gfLqyM
He signed an Executive Order that established the White House Office of Urban Affairs. http://wapo.st/eWECA8
Improved Foreign Relations and American Status Abroad
He visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any previous president during his first six months in office. http://bit.ly/hZycda
As he promised, he gave a speech at a major Islamic forum in Cairo early in his administration. http://nyti.ms/dKvY4g
He did much to restore America’s reputation around the world as a global leader that does the “right thing” in world affairs, at least according to the rest of the planet. http://bit.ly/h743y7 http://bit.ly/ho4TCr
He re-established and reinforced our partnership with NATO and other allies on strategic international issues. http://1.usa.gov/e7QuDj
Closed a number of secret detention facilities. http://nyti.ms/rpUc9l
He improved relations with Middle East countries by appointing special envoys. http://1.usa.gov/tiGAGe
He pushed for military to emphasize development of foreign language skills. http://bit.ly/AxUCLV
Offered $400 million to the people living in Gaza, called on both Israel and the Palestinians to stop inciting violence. http://bit.ly/9axfWh
He refused to give Israel the green light to attack Iran over their possible nuclear program. http://bit.ly/xVmSZK
He worked to make donations to Haiti tax-deductible in 2009. http://huff.to/6YkAVY
He established a new U.S.-China Strategic and Economic Dialogue. http://1.usa.gov/eX28DP
Issued Executive Order blocking interference and helping to stabilize Somalia. http://1.usa.gov/hxdf8U
He established new, more reasonable policies in our relations with Cuba, such as allowing Cuban-Americans to visit their families and send money to support them. http://n.pr/hY3Kwa http://nyti.ms/emQBde
He ordered the closure of the prison at Guantanamo Bay. It was Republicans (and a smattering of Democrats) who prevented him from following through. http://bit.ly/eW6CVF
Ordered a review of our detention and interrogation policy, and prohibited the use of torture, or what Bush called “enhanced interrogation.” He ordered interrogators to limit their actions to the Army Field manual. http://bit.ly/g6MTuC
He ordered all secret detention facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere to be closed. http://bbc.in/h6N9ax
He released the Bush torture memos. http://bit.ly/hWJ5z0
On his second day in office, he signed a detailed Executive Order that banned torture, reversed all Bush torture policies, and put the United States in compliance with the Geneva Convention. http://1.usa.gov/dL6Zve http://nyti.ms/hzWWys
In response to the emerging “Arab Spring,” he created a Rapid Response fund, to assist emerging democracies with foreign aid, debt relief, technical assistance and investment packages in order to show that the United States stands with them. http://bit.ly/zfmGv9
Passed the Iran Sanctions Act, to prevent war, and to encourage Iran to give up their nuclear program. http://1.usa.gov/wLtNjb
Ended the Iraq War. http://tgr.ph/ru0tyS
He authorized and oversaw a secret mission by SEAL Team Six to rescue two hostages held by Somali pirates. http://bit.ly/y8c9Fz
Better Approach to “Defense”
Created a comprehensive new strategy for dealing with the international nuclear threat. http://1.usa.gov/gDX1nE
He authorized a $1.4 billion reduction in Star Wars program in 2010. http://1.usa.gov/gLFZl2
He restarted nuclear nonproliferation talks and built up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols to where they had been before Bush. http://lat.ms/gkcl3i
He signed and pushed to ratification a new SALT Treaty. http://bit.ly/f3JVtw
Negotiated and signed a new START Treaty that will last until at least 2021. http://1.usa.gov/cI1bC4
Through the Defense Authorization Act, he reversed the Bush Administration and committed to no permanent military bases in Iraq. http://bit.ly/hk73OJ
He developed the first comprehensive strategy with regard to Afghanistan and Pakistan designed to facilitate the defeat of al Qaeda and the withdrawal of most troops, as well as the rebuilding of Afghanistan. http://wapo.st/ee4Xcs
He returned our focus to Afghanistan, stabilized the country, and began the process of withdrawing our troops. http://bit.ly/lNXUna
Fulfilled campaign promise and ended our involvement in Iraq, and will complete full troop withdrawal before Christmas 2011. http://onforb.es/nTUk4Z
He took steps to severely weaken al Qaeda and limited their ability to terrorize the world. http://yhoo.it/n5lXs6
He negotiated and signed a nuclear nonproliferation treaty with India. http://1.usa.gov/aHp0Cn
He took decisive action to use NATO to limit the slaughter of innocents in Libya, so that the Libyan people could topple a despotic government and determine their own fate. http://aje.me/qAh4Sj
Treating Soldiers and Veterans with Respect
He made sure that families of fallen soldiers could be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB, by providing funding for it. He also ended the media blackout on coverage of the return of fallen soldiers.http://nyti.ms/glqN66 http://bbc.in/gWSSkA
He funded Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) with an extra $1.4 billion to improve veterans’ services. http://1.usa.gov/huhqfo
He provided the troops with better body armor. http://bit.ly/hzSv2h
Created the Joint Virtual Lifetime Electronic Record program for military personnel, in order to improve the quality of their medical care. http://1.usa.gov/f4yaxW
He put an end to the Bush-era stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan beyond their enlistment date. (personal note: my son will be in harm’s way for six fewer months with Obama as president, so you know I love this one). http://nyti.ms/e2YQ7Q
He supported and signed the Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act, which made more money available to enable better medical care for veterans. http://1.usa.gov/fN4ur1
He ushered through the largest spending increase in 30 years for the Department of Veterans Affairs for improved medical facilities, and to assist states in acquiring or constructing state nursing homes and extended care facilities. http://1.usa.gov/gY8O3x
He created the Green Vet Initiative, which provided special funding to the Labor Department to provide veterans with training in green jobs. http://bit.ly/epwUQY
He oversaw a $4.6 billion expansion of the Veterans Administration budget to pay for more mental health professionals. http://bit.ly/gjzTxX
Education
He has repeatedly increased funding for student financial aid, and at the same time cut the banks completely out of the process. http://bit.ly/gYWd30 http://bit.ly/e9c7Dr http://bit.ly/eEzTNq
Completely reformed the student loan program, to make it possible for students to refinance at a lower rate. http://nyti.ms/dMvHOt
Through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act , he invested heavily in elementary, secondary and post-secondary education. http://1.usa.gov/gGRIAr This includes a major expansion of broadband availability in K-12 schools nationwide http://bit.ly/fNDcj3 , as well as an expansion in school construction. http://bit.ly/fYwNrV
Also through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, he put $5 billion into early education, including Head Start. http://1.usa.gov/tzT2Rr
Signed the Post-9/11 GI Bill, also known as GI Bill 2.0 http://bit.ly/hPhG7J
He oversaw expansion of the Pell Grants program, to expand opportunity for low-income students to go to college. http://bit.ly/hI6tXz
He passed the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act, which provided an extra $12.2 billion in funds. http://1.usa.gov/dQvtUe
Greater Transparency and Better Government
He signed an order banning gifts from lobbyists to anyone in the Executive Branch. http://bit.ly/fsBACN
He signed an order banning anyone from working in an agency they had lobbied in previous years. He also put strict limits on lobbyists’ access to the White House. http://nyti.ms/gOrznV
He held the first-ever first online town hall from the White House, and took questions from the public. http://bit.ly/gVNSgX
The Obama White House became the first to stream every White House event, live. http://1.usa.gov/kAgOP5
He established a central portal for Americans to find service opportunities. http://www.serve.gov
He provided the first voluntary disclosure of the White House Visitors Log in history. http://1.usa.gov/hQ7ttV
He crafted an Executive Order on Presidential Records, which restored the 30-day time frame for former presidents to review records, and eliminated the right for the vice president or family members of former presidents to do the reviews. This will provide the public with greater access to historic White House documents, and severely curtails the ability to use executive privilege to shield them.
http://1.usa.gov/gUetLb
He improved aspects of the Freedom of Information Act, and issued new guidelines to make FOIA more open and transparent in the processing of FOIA requests. http://1.usa.gov/gjrnp2
National Safety and Security
He’s restored federal agencies such as FEMA to the point that they have been able to manage a huge number of natural disasters successfully. http://bit.ly/h8Xj7z
Authorized Navy SEALS to successfully secure the release of a US captain held by Somali pirates and increased patrols off the Somali coast. http://nyti.ms/efBO7B
Has repeatedly beefed up border security http://bit.ly/mMYB4i
Ordered and oversaw the Navy SEALS operation that killed Osama bin Laden. http://bit.ly/jChpgw
Science, Technology and Health Care
He created a Presidential Memorandum to restore scientific integrity in government decision-making.
http://1.usa.gov/g2SDuw
Opened up the process for fast-tracking patent approval for green energy projects. http://bit.ly/j0KV2U
He eliminated the Bush-era restrictions on embryonic stem cell research. He also provided increased federal support for biomedical and stem cell research. http://bit.ly/h36SSO http://ti.me/edezge
Through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, he committed more federal funding, about $18 billion, to support non-defense science and research labs. http://nyti.ms/fTs9t7
He signed the Christopher and Dana Reeve Paralysis Act, the first comprehensive attempt to improve the lives of Americans living with paralysis. http://bit.ly/fOi2rb
He expanded the Nurse-Family Partnership program, which provides home visits by trained registered nurses to low-income expectant mothers and their families, to cover more first-time mothers. http://bit.ly/jRRRJc
His EPA reversed research ethics standards which allowed humans to be used as “guinea pigs” in tests of the effects of chemicals, to comply with numerous codes of medical ethics. http://bit.ly/bKgqdS
Conducted a cyberspace policy review. http://1.usa.gov/gmbdvC
Provided financial support for private sector space programs. http://bit.ly/fn8ucr
He oversaw enhanced earth mapping, to provide valuable data for agricultural, educational, scientific, and government use. http://bit.ly/dNTRyP
He ushered through a bill that authorized the Food and Drug Administration to regulate tobacco products. http://on.msnbc.com/fiKViB As a result, the FDA has Ordered Tobacco Companies to Disclose Cigarette Ingredients and banned sale of cigarettes falsely labeled as “light.”
Through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, he provided $500 million for Health Professions Training Programs. http://bit.ly/ecQSgA
He also increased funding for community-based prevention programs. http://bit.ly/frMPG3
He oversaw a 50% decrease in cost of prescription drugs for seniors. http://bit.ly/e5b1iq http://1.usa.gov/fVNkt9
He eliminated the Bush-era practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with drug companies on price. http://bit.ly/fOkG5b
Two weeks after taking office, he signed theChildren’s Health Insurance Re-authorization Act, which increased the number of children covered by health insurance by 4 million. http://bit.ly/fDEzGv
He held a quick press conference, and urged Congress to investigate Anthem Blue Cross for raising premiums 39% without explanation. Rep. Waxman responded by launching a probe, and Anthem Blue Cross put the increase on hold for two months. http://yhoo.it/e8Tj9C
Ushered through and signed the Affordable Health Care Act, which expanded health insurance coverage to 30 million more people, and ended many common insurance company practices that are often detrimental to those with coverage. He also established http://www.healthcare.gov/
Through the Affordable Health Care Act, he allowed children to be covered under their parents’ policy until they turned 26. http://nyti.ms/fNB26V
Through the Affordable Health Care Act, he provided tax breaks to allow 3.5 million small business to provide health insurance to their employees, and 29 million people will receive tax breaks to help them afford health insurance. http://nyti.ms/fNB26V
Through the Affordable Health Care Act, he expanded Medicaid to those making up to 133% of the federal poverty level. http://nyti.ms/ekMWpo
Through the Affordable Health Care Act, health insurance companies now have to disclose how much of your premium actually goes to pay for patient care. http://nyti.ms/fNB26V
Provisions in the Affordable Health Care Act have already resulted in Medicare costs actually declining slightly this fiscal year, for the first time in many years, according to the Congressional Budget Office. Last year’s increase was 4%. Compare that to the average 12% annual inflation rate during the previous 40 years. http://1.usa.gov/oMxpTh
Strengthening the Middle Class and Families
He worked to provide affordable, high-quality child care to working families. http://bit.ly/fNfidS
He cracked down on companies that were previously denying sick pay, vacation and health insurance, and Social Security and Medicare tax payments through abuse of the employee classification of independent contractor. http://nyti.ms/fOGLcj
Through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act , he cut taxes for 95% of America’s working families. http://bit.ly/eSEI4F
Under Obama, tax rates for average working families are the lowest they’ve been since 1950. http://bit.ly/f74pD8
He extended and fully funded the patch for the Alternative Minimum Tax for 10 years. http://bit.ly/eFeSdP
He extended discounted COBRA health coverage for the unemployed from 9 months to 15 months, and he’s extended unemployment benefits several times. http://aol.it/evtVxD http://nyti.ms/emrqKJ http://bit.ly/hOtIpg http://bit.ly/fTT7kz
Environment and Energy
He fast-tracked regulations to allow states to enact federal fuel efficiency standards that were above federal standards. http://nyti.ms/e8e94x
He fast-tracked increased fuel economy standards for vehicles beginning with the 2011 model year. It was the first time such standards had been increased in a decade. http://politi.co/hiaPKM
He oversaw the establishment of an Energy Partnership for the Americas, which creates more markets for American-made biofuels and green energy technologies. http://bit.ly/lZp73y
His EPA reversed a Bush-era decision to allow the largest mountaintop removal project in US history. http://bit.ly/lP3yEL
He ordered the Department of Energy to implement more aggressive efficiency standards for common household appliances. http://1.usa.gov/g3MTbu
He ordered energy plants to prepare to produce at least 15% of all energy through renewable resources like wind and solar, by 2021. http://reut.rs/fV155p (As you can see, Republicans are trying hard to kill it.)
He oversaw the creation of an initiative that converts old factories and manufacturing centers into new clean technology centers. http://bit.ly/mjnq2R
Bypassed Republican opposition in Congress and ordered EPA to begin regulating and measuring carbon emissions. http://bit.ly/froaP5
His EPA ruled that CO2 is a pollutant. http://bit.ly/iQTSNN
He doubled federal spending on clean energy research. http://bit.ly/iN0sCE
He pushed through a tax credit to help people buy plug-in hybrid cars. http://bit.ly/j8UP5Y
He created a program to develop renewable energy projects on the waters of our Outer Continental Shelf that will produce electricity from wind, wave, and ocean currents. http://1.usa.gov/fgfRWq
He reengaged in the climate change and greenhouse gas emissions agreements talks, and even proposed one himself. He also addressed the U.N. Climate Change Conference, officially reversing the Bush-era stance that climate change was a “hoax.” http://bit.ly/dX6Vj3 http://bit.ly/fE2PxK http://nyti.ms/hfeqvv
He fully supported the initial phase of the creation of a legally binding treaty to reduce mercury emissions worldwide. http://bit.ly/eJ6QOO
He required states to provide incentives to utilities to reduce their energy consumption. http://bit.ly/lBhk7P
Following Bush’s eight year reign, he reengaged in a number of treaties and agreements designed to protect the Antarctic. http://bit.ly/fzQUFO
Created tax write-offs for purchases of hybrid automobiles, and later he and Democrats morphed that program into one that includes electric cars. http://bit.ly/glCukV
Mandated that federal government fleet purchases be for fuel-efficient American vehicles, and encouraged that federal agencies support experimental, fuel-efficient vehicles. http://bit.ly/h5KZqy http://1.usa.gov/fLWq5c http://1.usa.gov/hmUSbk
He oversaw and pushed through an amendment to the Oil Pollution Act of 1990 authorizing advances from Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund for the Deepwater Horizon oil spill. http://1.usa.gov/yTRYVo
He also actively tried to amend the Oil Pollution Act of 1990 to eliminate the liability limits for those companies responsible for large oil spills. http://nyti.ms/bxjDi3
He initiated Criminal and Civil inquiries into the Deepwater Horizon oil spill. http://nyti.ms/bVuB7a
Through his EPA, he asserted federal legal supremacy, and barred Texas from authorizing new refinery permits on its own. http://bit.ly/ww8eMd
He strengthened the Endangered Species Act. http://bit.ly/hscjsH
His EPA improved boiler safety standards to improve air quality, and save 6500 lives per year. http://bit.ly/jYH7nt
Through the EPA, he took steps to severely limit the use of antibiotics in livestock feed, to increase their efficacy in humans. http://bit.ly/fBuWd2
He increased funding for National Parks and Forests by 10% http://bit.ly/fbJPjY
He announced greatly improved commercial fuel efficiency standards. http://1.usa.gov/oQiC1K
He announced the development of a huge increase in average fuel economy standards from 27.5mpg to 35.5mpg starting in 2016 and 54.5 starting in 2025 http://1.usa.gov/qtghsW
Other Stuff
He has expanded trade agreements to include stricter labor and environmental agreements such as NAFTA. http://bit.ly/etznpY
He oversaw funding of the design of a new Smithsonian National Museum of African-American History, which is scheduled to open on the National Mall in 2015. He protected the funding during the recent budget negotiations. http://on.fb.me/fD0EVO http://bit.ly/ff5Luv
Oversaw and passed increased funding for the National Endowment for the Arts. http://bit.ly/dFb8qF
He nominated Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan to the Supreme Court. Sotomayor is the first Hispanic Justice in the court’s history, and the women represent only the third and fourth women to serve on the court, out of a total of 112 justices. http://huff.to/eOChg6 http://bit.ly/i02wgP
He appointed the most diverse Cabinet in history, including more women than any other incoming president. http://bit.ly/dX6vNB
He eliminated federal funding for abstinence-only education, and he rescinded the global gag rule. http://bit.ly/eCFAI1 http://bit.ly/f92drF
He loosened the rules and allowed the 14 states that legalized medical marijuana to regulate themselves without federal interference. http://huff.to/eQfa7j
His FDA banned the use of antibiotics in livestock production. http://bit.ly/jUjLzo
Ushered through and signed national service legislation, increasing funding for national service groups, including triple the size of the Americorps program. http://bit.ly/idgQH5

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[VegasInsider]

American public, as a whole, are clueless.

[opie1988]

Mad Cap buried every libtard in this entire thread.

Wow! I'm beyond impressed with mad cap. (....and I typically cannot stand attorneys.)

Hope you're still around, pal.

[ChalkyDog]

Not all Republicans are white racists, but all white racists are Republican. (Modern take on an old John Stuart Mill quote?)

[vividjohn45]

The Republican party needs to wake up and realize who they are. You look at Romney's HQ's and it was ALL white. Not one black, Hispanic, Asian, even young people in the crowd. You look at Obama's HQ's and it was a melting pot.

Republicans have lost touch with America. America is a melting pot, young old, rich, poor, white, black, yellow, green. Trying to reach just one demographic is not reaching the masses...

And democratics got it? Penetrate obamacare. Liars through and through. Good people with families losing great insurance polocies and having to pay more on a govt exchange if they can even
Log in. Obama promised americans they could keep their polocies but he lied. Now they offer us expensive sh,it so some impoverished black can get some coverage. Or youth pay a higher premium so a old penwtrator can get cheap insurance. Never hated a president my entire life til this piece of shit took office. Penetrating liar saying hes helping out the poor. Who gives a penetration. Go get a job fuggers. I know there is exceptions and i am willing to help those truly in need but obama is fuggin gravytrain for lazy.penetrators. we got good white people losing their insurance and debating to take rhis assholes penalty. Im already going to take it. Fugg obamacare. Will never sign up for rhis sh,it

[vividjohn45]

The website is leaking. It is not secure. You give ur data to ovamacare they lie and say site secure. It is not fullytested. Liars. All these fugfin govt agencies getting ur personal files. Hell i had allstate. Fufgin democrats

[Darkside Magick]

Lmaooo....you do know it was the insurance companies who really wanted obamacare!!!!

[Big Bear]

i'm neither democrat or republican.

i think both parties have had excellent presidents.

George Bush senior was a helluva president and
Bill Clinton was a great president too.

However since Bill Clinton we have not had good leadership as a country.

Obama is the type of dude i'd like have a beer with or go to a sporting event with
but he is totally ignorant when it comes to being a leader and a President.

[jjgold]

Obama ruined nation
Case closed

[vividjohn45]

Another small point but where i disliked obama is when his doj went after poker stars. Full tilt ect. He did not have to do that. But he did. The industry is still there look at this website. Enforcing bad law. Give the people what they want. Instead in russia they can play online poker but obama goes after them on money launder charges. I did not hate him then but when i see good famalies being displaced. With this sh.it obamacare. Its a disgrace. My sister is epileptic her husband ia a cpa they are rich and lost the family doctor cuz obamacare pushed him out of field. 30 years their doctor. But some old timer or black kid now gets some govtjunk for insurance. No way i will ever lisren to a democrat tell me the way it is.

[t-wizzle]

Lol at that stupid fukktard crustyme copying and pasting Obama propaganda.

Man what a stupid fukking piece of shit.

[Big Bear]

all i know is i had plenty of money and tons of job offers when Bill Clinton was president.

in fact everybody i knew had plenty of money back then.

now days my niggaz is broke

[vividjohn45]

And u young people betterwise up cuzu payin out the azz so gramps gets it cheap. Insurance. Here a guy worked all his liife to prrpare for retirement and johnny college kid paying for that fuggers insurance.wise up.

[KingJD31]

vivid gets it

And u young people betterwise up cuzu payin out the azz so gramps gets it cheap. Insurance. Here a guy worked all his liife to prrpare for retirement and johnny college kid paying for that fuggers insurance.wise up.

[Darkside Magick]

all i know is i had plenty of money and tons of job offers when Bill Clinton was president.

in fact everybody i knew had plenty of money back then.

now days my niggaz is broke

It was so much money flowing in those Clinton years..legal and illegal ..it was crazy...dudes would lose a job in the morning and have 6 offers in the afternoon!

[jjgold]

Pay for lazy ghetto people

That's what you voted for

[brooks85]

crustyme's dream would to be one of those idiots you see standing behind Obama clapping at everything he says.

[vividjohn45]

The Republican party needs to wake up and realize who they are. You look at Romney's HQ's and it was ALL white. Not one black, Hispanic, Asian, even young people in the crowd. You look at Obama's HQ's and it was a melting pot.

Republicans have lost touch with America. America is a melting pot, young old, rich, poor, white, black, yellow, green. Trying to reach just one demographic is not reaching the masses...

And democratics got it? Penetrate obamacare. Liars through and through. Good people with famalies losing great insurance polocies and haiving to pay more on a govt exchange if they can even
Log in. Obama promised americans they could keep their polocies but he lied. Mpw they offer us sh,it so some impoverished black can get some coverage. Never hated a president my entire lifw til thia piece of shit took office. Penetrating liar saying hes helping out the poor. Who gives a penetration. Go get a job fuggers. I know there is exceptions and i am willing to help those truly in need but obama is fuggin gravytrain for lazy.penetrators. we got good white people losinf rheir insurance and debating to take rhis assholes penalty. Im already going to take it. Fugg obamacare

[Andy117]

Another small point but where i disliked obama is when his doj went after poker stars. Full tilt ect. He did not have to do that. But he did. The industry is still there look at this website. Enforcing bad law. Give the people what they want. Instead in russia they can play online poker but obama goes after them on money launder charges. I did not hate him then but when i see good famalies being displaced. With this sh.it obamacare. Its a disgrace. My sister is epileptic her husband ia a cpa they are rich and lost the family doctor cuz obamacare pushed him out of field. 30 years their doctor. But some old timer or black kid now gets some govtjunk for insurance. No way i will ever lisren to a democrat tell me the way it is.

A 65+ year old doctor was probably on his way out anyway. He just used Obamacare as an excuse.