Taylor being sued for protecting his properity

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  • bigboydan
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-10-05
    • 55420

    #1
    Taylor being sued for protecting his properity
    heres a prime example of whats wrong with our legal system.

    the guy steals Taylor's ATV's and, now the guy's sueing Taylor for trying to protect his properity


    MIAMI (AP) -- Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor was sued by a man who said the NFL player brandished a gun and repeatedly hit him during a fight last June.

    Ryan Hill filed the suit on June 27 in Miami Dade Circuit Court and is seeking $15,000 in damages from Taylor.

    The lawsuit states that Hill was bruised, incurred medical expenses and lost wages because of the fight.

    Taylor, 23, reached a deal with prosecutors last month after they agreed to drop felony charges against him stemming from the fight. He pleaded no contest to two misdemeanors in the assault case and was sentenced to 18 months probation.

    An altercation broke out on June 1, 2005, after Taylor and some friends went looking for people who had allegedly stolen his all-terrain vehicles. Taylor struck Hill "with his fists several times," and called him a thief. After the initial fight, Taylor left and returned to the scene with more friends and "pointed an assault rifle" at Hill, the lawsuit said.

    Hill's attorney, Leonardo Canton, said his client tried to run away, but Taylor and his friends chased him with baseball bats.

    "What happened to (Hill) is something that is pretty bad, there's no reason for it," Canton said. "He gets beat up and assaulted by Mr. Taylor and had guns pointed at him at a different point."

    Taylor's attorney, Richard Sharpstein, called the lawsuit "useless" and ridiculous."

    "Hill stole Sean's property. Hill baited him, lured him and suckered him into a fight," Sharpstein said.

    Taylor, a former University of Miami standout, signed a seven-year, $18 million contract with the Redskins after he was drafted in 2004. He has six interceptions and 120 tackles in two NFL seasons, but has become almost as well-known for his troubles.

    Taylor has been fined seven times during his professional career for late hits and other infractions, including a $17,000 penalty for spitting in the face of Tampa Bay running back Michael Pittman during a January playoff game. He was also fined $25,000 for skipping a mandatory rookie symposium.
  • Bulldog
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 06-22-06
    • 839

    #2
    Gotta confess, I dont know all the details in the story but as someone who strongly believes in individual rights and property rights Im outraged.
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    • justbet
      SBR High Roller
      • 03-04-06
      • 185

      #3
      you cant go around beating people up, even if you are worth $18 million and the person stole your bike. call the cops and let them do their job.
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      • Bulldog
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 06-22-06
        • 839

        #4
        If the guy stole my car I would be pretty upset myself. I dont care how much either one of them is worth. If you turn him over to the cops they will probably let him go or charge them with a misdemeanor or something...
        I say good job Sean... he probably will think twice before stealing again.
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        • isetcap
          SBR MVP
          • 12-16-05
          • 4006

          #5
          This is not the Wild Wild West, people. Let's reserve this kind of "justice" for places that are ruled by tribal clans and warlords.

          Now if he had caught this lowlife in the process of stealing his property while on his property then Sean has every right to use his registered firearm to protect his property and/or attempt to detain the criminal. Sean doesn't have the right to go into thugmode well after the pilfer takes place. He's not trying to protect his property; he's trying to use vigilante fear tactics and that is illegal and barbaric.

          I'd like to thank justbet for showing wisdom in his/her response.
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          • Bulldog
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 06-22-06
            • 839

            #6
            I agree that it would have been far more legitimate for Taylor to have hit the guy while in the act of stealing and inside his property.But the guy pretty much conceded that he did steal from Taylor.
            And lets remember who's sueing who here.
            Its a case of a thief sueing an honest guy (football star or not) for attacking him after he "peacefully" took his property.
            Its a case of who should the legal system back up, honest people or thiefs.
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            • isetcap
              SBR MVP
              • 12-16-05
              • 4006

              #7
              Originally posted by Bulldog
              Its a case of who should the legal system back up, honest people or thiefs.
              No, I think it's a case of who the legal system should back up; assaulters or the victims of assault.

              A sophisticated system is in place to properly evaluate, assess, and punish the actions of individuals when they break laws. The thief in this situation has been a part of this system and punished accordingly. He should not have to be subject to additional vigilante punishment that is somewhat biased in its outcome.
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              • Bulldog
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 06-22-06
                • 839

                #8
                I respect your point of view isetcap, and I also appreciate discussing this "serious, if you will" issues in this forum.

                I just think we have different views regarding how much individuals should trust and depend on the state for protection. Probably you trust the state more than I do and think that it will handle things right more than I do.
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                • isetcap
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-16-05
                  • 4006

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Bulldog
                  I respect your point of view isetcap, and I also appreciate discussing this "serious, if you will" issues in this forum.

                  I just think we have different views regarding how much individuals should trust and depend on the state for protection. Probably you trust the state more than I do and think that it will handle things right more than I do.
                  I certainly appreciate your position and I understand that mine may be tainted with idealism. Again, I think it's perfectly appropriate to protect one's life and belongings, but when it is situationally after-the-fact, I feel it's part of the "social contract" that we allow the state to execute justice. Ultimately this thief surely felt endangered by Taylor's actions and had every right in the midst of this unfortunate situation to cause bodily harm to Taylor. That only makes a bad situation worse and our society needs to start avoiding that.

                  I definitely don't see this as a Sean Taylor issue exclusively. Speaking specifically about Sean, I have met him outside of a football situation and he was very nice and genuine.
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                  • Mudcat
                    Restricted User
                    • 07-21-05
                    • 9287

                    #10
                    I completely understand and agree with everything you say isetcap.

                    And yet something inside me still says it was okay for Taylor to apply noogies to this idiot's cranium.
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