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  • bleedtoledo
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 08-29-10
    • 513

    #2661
    I don't think I'm gonna make a play on the o/u. Although I have a gut feeling it will go under. I've been teasing LTA's recommendations NCAA/NFL/NBA and Ive hit ten of my last 11(thanks lta!!!) So I've got saints -2.5 and -½ pending. Not even gonna hedge on the lions!
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    • Donnie Brasco
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 01-04-11
      • 862

      #2662
      Originally posted by E in AZ
      I've been reading LTA posts for well over a year now. I just signed up the other day so I can have a voice... I definitely respect most of the posts from LTA, but I just feel like a 3 point discrepancy by Vegas is not something I'm putting my hard earned money on.

      This game is in a dome. The running game will be eliminated early and this could jump over 70. I understand the "value" as 59 is way too high for any NFL game. I guess I'm just saying be cautious - Vegas put this big number out there to DARE us to bite.

      ...and yeah, no "L" word coming from my mouth haha
      U are right, vegas did put that number out there for u to bite. There is obviously some shading towards the over for several reasons here:
      1. Recent performance by the saints offense
      2. Ability of the lions to air it out and strike quick with pass attack
      3. Public perception influenced by the aforementioned
      4. More public eyes on these nfl games now that the playoffs are here and these games will each have the spotlight
      5. Vegas knows public likes overs
      This game would need 8 tds and 2 fgs to go over (currently 59.5), which i hit again to get the hook. The saints recent performance has been phenomenal, but this is a bit skewed. Brees trying to get his record, trying to get records for teammates and trying to get a bye. Now that the cards have been dealt it is time to play postseason, win this game football. The saints wont have the petal to the metal because of the lack of a bye and resting players once the game is in control. Brees wont be throwing it late in the game, and ivory will be pounding the rock. The dome will be rocking and greg williams will have this defense dialed in. Now for the lions, who were missing atleast 3 key defensive players last time out in new orleans. We know this defense can play and will on wild card saturday. Yes 70 is possible, but highly unlikely, as is 59.5. The value is in the under here, as stated by LTA. Yes, an over on the opener of 55 or so would have positive EV over time cause u kill tht closing #. But now that this thing has topped out at 59.5-60, we are getting the best number on the under which is where the +EV is now. Good luck in whatever you choose. And oh yeah, WHO DAT, WHO DAT, WHO DAT say they gonna beat them saints, WHO DAT, WHO DAT! I will be at the no limit holdem table at harrahs new orleans enjoying the revelry that only my home state and this city can produce! Thanks LTA for all you do! And thanks to all who contribute intelligent points if view to this forum, red, triv, sox, buck an the fam, dexter, no coin, and whoever i forgot! You guys are the shiznit!
      Last edited by Donnie Brasco; 01-07-12, 02:08 PM.
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      • bleedtoledo
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 08-29-10
        • 513

        #2663
        Isn't megatron hobbled a bit, too. You gotta think saints will isolate him, take him out of the game. I wonder what percent he's at physically.
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        • E in AZ
          SBR Hustler
          • 01-05-12
          • 68

          #2664
          I'm gonna charge my phone and attempt to log in at the bar tonight. When the total is between 31 and 38 at halftime, I'm gonna be very curious to hear what everyone is saying.
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          • ballsyman
            SBR High Roller
            • 12-26-11
            • 156

            #2665
            Yo!!! E in AZ.....it's great you have an opinion, but LTA has been doing this since you've been in diapers. You maybe right and you maybe wrong but either way have some respect, i am sure if your right you will be on here saying I told you so, and if LTA's pick wins its just another day at the office for LTA because of his track record, so before you come on here and try to sway LTA's pick, lets see you cap some games with write up's like LTA has been doing for years now. IMO there is no need for haters or WANNABEE'S, just post an opinion, don't try to sway his pick...you feeling me!!! Because you seem when it comes to respect.
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            • E in AZ
              SBR Hustler
              • 01-05-12
              • 68

              #2666
              You are right, what I meant to say was, YESSS, the final will be Saints 10, Lions 3!! Go get em!! (BUZZER SOUND)

              Isn't this a forum? I go on here to read and look for the one comment that catches my eye. I'm not gonna sit here and play every play like of someone like you will. I pick and choose. I have played many of plays posted by LTA. I just don't think there is much value in the total on this game. Its gonna be AT THE LOWEST in the 50's, so why bet it? THAT IS ALL I'M TRYING TO SAY
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              • spk1313
                SBR High Roller
                • 11-18-11
                • 127

                #2667
                Originally posted by E in AZ
                You are right, what I meant to say was, YESSS, the final will be Saints 10, Lions 3!! Go get em!! (BUZZER SOUND)

                Isn't this a forum? I go on here to read and look for the one comment that catches my eye. I'm not gonna sit here and play every play like of someone like you will. I pick and choose. I have played many of plays posted by LTA. I just don't think there is much value in the total on this game. Its gonna be AT THE LOWEST in the 50's, so why bet it? THAT IS ALL I'M TRYING TO SAY

                Yeah, it's a forum. Congrats for figuring that out. I think his point is that there is no reason for you to try to get LTA off his play just because *YOU* don't believe there is value to be had. Fact is, there IS value to be had, whether or not your little brain can grasp that. LTA has a proven track record when it comes to his handicapping, and you, well... you're just some guy on the internet talking sh*t at this point. You have yet to display ANY advanced stats or concrete numbers of ANY kind that will back up your over bet, and to be honest, it sounds like you're a rookie looking for some attention. BOL though, I'm sure you're sitting there watching ESPN and thinking your over is the of the playoffs.

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                • Love The Action
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 11-08-10
                  • 10952

                  #2668
                  Originally posted by E in AZ
                  I've been reading LTA posts for well over a year now. I just signed up the other day so I can have a voice... I definitely respect most of the posts from LTA, but I just feel like a 3 point discrepancy by Vegas is not something I'm putting my hard earned money on.

                  This game is in a dome. The running game will be eliminated early and this could jump over 70. I understand the "value" as 59 is way too high for any NFL game. I guess I'm just saying be cautious - Vegas put this big number out there to DARE us to bite.

                  ...and yeah, no "L" word coming from my mouth haha
                  No one is making you put your money on anything. I'm rolling with the under, you should do what you want. GL on whatever you choose
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                  • Love The Action
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 11-08-10
                    • 10952

                    #2669
                    Originally posted by Love The Action
                    NFL 2011-2012 Playoffs Wildcard Round

                    Play #1

                    Lions/Saints under (59) 1x (Locked)

                    If you remember, we cashed the under 56 between the Packers and Lions on Thanksgiving. I think we have a similar situation here with two high profile offenses squaring off indoors with no elements. However, because all of those factors are built into the line with extra value added in for public perception, there is actually a FG of value. I have this game set at 56 which is a very important number because it represents 8 td's which are what is needed to push on that number. In this case, these two offenses will need to eclipse 8td's to cash the over. That requires perfect offensive football and on the opening round of the playoffs, that's not easy to do. Detroit has very solid advanced efficiency ratings on defense against the pass in the top 7 of the league. Their defensive line is dangerous and can put a hurting on Brees at any time. Plus, Detroit will try to slow things down and play the ball control game to keep Brees off the field. By getting this under at 59, you really cover yourself against all of the most important key numbers. With the whole world on the over, the books will really need the under in this game. I don't believe in fading the public for profit, but there is a right time to fade the public and a wrong time to fade. This is a right time and I'm rolling with the under for 1x. Good luck.
                    Play #2

                    Bengals/Texans under (38) 1x (Locked)

                    We got burned on the under in this matchup by a last second TD. I don't think it will be close today. I have this game set at 35 and we're getting a FG of value in this game as well. I wanted to get 39, but I was consumed with NBA when this one opened and it was hit right away. Both defenses far exceed the offenses in the advanced stats and we have two rookie quarterbacks squaring off in their first playoff starts. I think we see both offenses concentrate on the running game and play ball control offense predicated on field position and defense. I'm off to spend the day with family and won't be checking. Based on the foregoing, I am rolling with the under for 1x. Good luck.
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                    • spk1313
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 11-18-11
                      • 127

                      #2670
                      Originally posted by Love The Action
                      No one is making you put your money on anything. I'm rolling with the under, you should do what you want. GL on whatever you choose

                      Classy as always, LTA. Looks like under or no play for me - must admit that the steam is starting to scare me off at this point. What are your thoughts? It's up to 60.5 in some spots...

                      Either way good luck to you.
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                      • Bbobbi
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 12-29-11
                        • 181

                        #2671
                        tailing BoL to us
                        Have fun with the fam. Definitely deserve a break from here!
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                        • E in AZ
                          SBR Hustler
                          • 01-05-12
                          • 68

                          #2672
                          LTA, thanks for confirming my HOU/CIN bet. 100% with you there.

                          Hey spk, I think ESPN also has the under too...what you gonna do now?
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                          • bleedtoledo
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 08-29-10
                            • 513

                            #2673
                            Charles Barkley just said he loves the Lions and "both teams are definitely gonna score."

                            So it looks like saints and the under! Lol
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                            • SlickRick1382
                              SBR MVP
                              • 10-15-11
                              • 3838

                              #2674
                              Took the under with you LTA

                              Also leaned Bengals later in the day and took them +4 and teased them to +11 in another play.
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                              • Believeland
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 11-08-10
                                • 923

                                #2675
                                Early and this under is making me nervous need no points this quarter
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                                • GChild
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-11-10
                                  • 3885

                                  #2676
                                  This game is going way over...
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                                  • Believeland
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 11-08-10
                                    • 923

                                    #2677
                                    Why can't teams be happy going into the half tied... It seems like everytime I bet an under it get f'd by stuff like that
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                                    • GChild
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-11-10
                                      • 3885

                                      #2678
                                      Well I can't even tell you how many damn times we bet the damn cincy under and we lost!!!! Unreal and I told myself not to bet it and I did...
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                                      • Pick'nParlays
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-22-08
                                        • 3134

                                        #2679
                                        Originally posted by Pick'nParlays
                                        59 at most books now.. I grabbed 58. Hope I made a good wager
                                        Early line
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                                        • GChild
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-11-10
                                          • 3885

                                          #2680
                                          I hate unders!!!
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                                          • bleedtoledo
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 08-29-10
                                            • 513

                                            #2681
                                            If dude wouldn't have had that freak pik 6 you guys might have cashed.
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                                            • GChild
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-11-10
                                              • 3885

                                              #2682
                                              And that's that that's the last damn under I play in the nfl unreal
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                                              • lonelynoob
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 11-20-11
                                                • 359

                                                #2683
                                                that pick 6 was the deal breaker ... all the capping in the world cant predict that kind of garbage
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                                                • LolsMcwinsey
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 06-08-10
                                                  • 2660

                                                  #2684
                                                  this guy has really good write ups but never ever wins
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                                                  • alamo
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 02-21-09
                                                    • 7131

                                                    #2685
                                                    Originally posted by GChild
                                                    This game is going way over...
                                                    Originally posted by GChild
                                                    Well I can't even tell you how many damn times we bet the damn cincy under and we lost!!!! Unreal and I told myself not to bet it and I did...
                                                    Originally posted by GChild
                                                    I hate unders!!!
                                                    Originally posted by GChild
                                                    And that's that that's the last damn under I play in the nfl unreal
                                                    Dude, You weren't saying this shyt when LT was giving us all his under and over winners all year. Jeez way to knock a fella with a couple of bad results on what has still been a stellar season. I love your BOOOM and BAAAM when we win but how about less of the knocking when we have a rare bad night.

                                                    In other news...Great call LT on the baskets once again.
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                                                    • Dave88
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 06-09-11
                                                      • 130

                                                      #2686
                                                      Originally posted by alamo
                                                      Dude, You weren't saying this shyt when LT was giving us all his under and over winners all year. Jeez way to knock a fella with a couple of bad results on what has still been a stellar season. I love your BOOOM and BAAAM when we win but how about less of the knocking when we have a rare bad night.

                                                      In other news...Great call LT on the baskets once again.



                                                      ..agreed!
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                                                      • SteveRyan
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 11-15-11
                                                        • 1654

                                                        #2687
                                                        I had Saints -10.5/O59 parlayed with Cin +4/U38. Not so good way to start the playoffs for me.

                                                        Sometimes, it's not until the game is over that the correct play seems so obvious. Cincinnati on the road....no good. I told my buddy that I was going to take Houston and the over, but then over-analyzed the game for about 1 hour on Friday and somehow came up with Cincinnati covering U38

                                                        Best of luck to everyone tomorrow, and for what it's worth, I locked Atlanta +3/O47.5

                                                        My first instinct was that the Giants will choke at home in this critical game; so I just stuck with that.

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                                                        • Pick'nParlays
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 02-22-08
                                                          • 3134

                                                          #2688
                                                          Originally posted by LolsMcwinsey
                                                          this guy has really good write ups but never ever wins
                                                          You are the worse capper on Sbr go eat shyt with that attitude
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                                                          • Pick'nParlays
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 02-22-08
                                                            • 3134

                                                            #2689
                                                            Originally posted by bleedtoledo
                                                            Charles Barkley just said he loves the Lions and "both teams are definitely gonna score."

                                                            So it looks like saints and the under! Lol
                                                            Lol barkley is a degenerate
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                                                            • Love The Action
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 11-08-10
                                                              • 10952

                                                              #2690
                                                              Originally posted by LolsMcwinsey
                                                              this guy has really good write ups but never ever wins
                                                              Come on Lol's....never?!?

                                                              I don't know about that....check my other threads bud. Ive been profitable for SBR in every sport for over a year. Ive given you guys over +40x in profit in MLB (which you followed because I remember you commenting positively in my thread a few times), gave you over +45x in profit from the NBA playoffs last season (+90x under my unit scale at the time), I am up +7x in NCAAF on this season and after last night I am down in NFL about 1x with plenty of time to get back into the black by the super bowl. Im also having a very solid start to the young NBA season. Not bragging here either, just stating the facts to set the record straight.

                                                              The only reason I lost last night was because you probably had a lock thread somewhere about those plays

                                                              Just messing with you. I actually think you are a pretty funny guy and I really am having a frustrating up and down NFL season with too many bad beats to list. However, I'm not GG and my overall track record speaks for itself. So don't troll on me bro...i don't mind accurate criticsm but please get your facts straight first pal.

                                                              Good luck in the future and no hard feelings here. Keep doing your thing, but be accurate if you are going to do it in here.
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                                                              • LolsMcwinsey
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 06-08-10
                                                                • 2660

                                                                #2691
                                                                Originally posted by Love The Action
                                                                Come on Lol's....never?!?

                                                                I don't know about that....check my other threads bud. Ive been profitable for SBR in every sport for over a year. Ive given you guys over +40x in profit in MLB (which you followed because I remember you commenting positively in my thread a few times), gave you over +45x in profit from the NBA playoffs last season (+90x under my unit scale at the time), I am up +7x in NCAAF on this season and after last night I am down in NFL about 1x with plenty of time to get back into the black by the super bowl. Im also having a very solid start to the young NBA season. Not bragging here either, just stating the facts to set the record straight.

                                                                The only reason I lost last night was because you probably had a lock thread somewhere about those plays

                                                                Just messing with you. I actually think you are a pretty funny guy and I really am having a frustrating up and down NFL season with too many bad beats to list. However, I'm not GG and my overall track record speaks for itself. So don't troll on me bro...i don't mind accurate criticsm but please get your facts straight first pal.

                                                                Good luck in the future and no hard feelings here. Keep doing your thing, but be accurate if you are going to do it in here.
                                                                yo my bad, i said that drunk last night
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                                                                • Love The Action
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 11-08-10
                                                                  • 10952

                                                                  #2692
                                                                  Originally posted by LolsMcwinsey
                                                                  yo my bad, i said that drunk last night
                                                                  No worries
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                                                                  • Donnie Brasco
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 01-04-11
                                                                    • 862

                                                                    #2693
                                                                    Man LTA, u got screwed in the bengals game. That rookie couldnt make that pick off again with a hundred tries. That was unreal. U were spot on there. Just another tough loss that shoulda gone ur way. As for the saints game, what can be said? The saints defense isnt good. We knew that. But megatron is just incredible. The saints corners and safeties left him open all night playing that shitty cover two shell or whatever the hell they were trying to play and stafford did what he does. That did mot surprise me. What did was the saints offense and the lions defense. Lions couldnt stop the run, and brees was just phenomenal AGAIN! Not that i expect him not to be, but these guys are relentless. They are not going to stop scoring unless stopped. Which is great if ur a saints fan like me, but awful for under backers like us last night. Really thought they would shut it down. But they couldnt stop the lions And get that comfortable lead. The lions defense just didnt have a chance. Still think the under was the play and id do it again. My saints to win the superbowl future at 7.5:1 is looking promising. They may not stop anyone, but they cant be scored with. Good luck the rest if the season, and dont stress with the trolls. You are the man!
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                                                                    • Redscot
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 05-16-11
                                                                      • 2571

                                                                      #2694
                                                                      I think we need no more evidence that the NFL has the sharpest lines. When someone like LTA is struggling to stay in the black, that speaks volumes. The amount of work he puts into his capping is impressive and you almost always see lines move in the direction that he has them capped (in all sports). It has been a tough season with bad beats too, but those years come around. That being said, there is plenty of playoffs left to finish the year positive. Keep up the good work my man, hope you enjoyed the day yesterday with little man.


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                                                                      • Redscot
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 05-16-11
                                                                        • 2571

                                                                        #2695
                                                                        Originally posted by E in AZ
                                                                        You are right, what I meant to say was, YESSS, the final will be Saints 10, Lions 3!! Go get em!! (BUZZER SOUND)

                                                                        Isn't this a forum? I go on here to read and look for the one comment that catches my eye. I'm not gonna sit here and play every play like of someone like you will. I pick and choose. I have played many of plays posted by LTA. I just don't think there is much value in the total on this game. Its gonna be AT THE LOWEST in the 50's, so why bet it? THAT IS ALL I'M TRYING TO SAY
                                                                        You had this one pegged . You actually found a thread in this forum that isn't filled with drama, opinions, strong ones are welcome. LTA does not have thin skin and he always welcomes a contrary opinion. Congrats on cashing the over.


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