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  • madden
    SBR Hustler
    • 05-10-10
    • 71

    #1
    MADDEN's picks
    Hello all

    It's my deepest expectation we all profit huge this year with the NFL.

    It's still very early in the season, so I will only place the most interesting observations I get, coming back on fire when the regular season starts.

    Hoping to get your comments on my next picks

    Soon I intend to create a website/blog, which will include not only picks but news and interesting information regarding the professional football world.

  • madden
    SBR Hustler
    • 05-10-10
    • 71

    #2
    NFL Division Winners - picks/value

    Well, for those not satisfied with the MLB and NBA betting, there are some alternatives, like picking, this soon already, the NFL DIVISION WINNERS. Here is what I'd pick (all Sportsbook.com odds):

    Observation: With months between now and the end of the regular season, anything can happen. That's why I, one time or another, picked not the team I believe would, right now, be their division champions, but the teams where the odds are more distanced from ''real life''. Some favorites really ARE favorites, but the odds turn other teams a more valuable pick.

    AFC:

    North:

    Baltimore -110
    Pittsburgh +200
    Cincinnati +350
    Cleveland +120 By far the worst division to predict. Don't overestimate Baltimore. Most valuable pick: Pittsburgh

    South:

    Indianapolis -150
    Houston +350
    Tennessee +350
    Jacksonville + 800 Indianapolis.

    East:

    New England +125
    New York +140
    Miami +300
    Bufalo +2000 New England and New York are almost tied in my heart. Jets is the most valuable pick here.

    West:

    San Diego -250
    Denver +500
    Kansas City +600
    Oakland +650 San Diego. Denver can surprise like last year, but San Diego is better even at -325.

    NFC:

    North:

    Green Bay +125
    Minnesota +140
    Chicago +300
    Detroit +2000 Don't overestimate the Vikings, die hard fans. Green Bay. Ah! Almost forgot Chicago! (don't do the same)

    South:

    New Orleans -175
    Atlanta +160
    Carolina +900
    Tampa Bay +2500 New Orleans

    East:

    Dallas +120
    New York +250
    Philadelphia +250
    Washington +700 New York is more valuable. Dallas still favorite, so far.

    West:

    San Francisco -125
    Arizona +125
    Seattle +300
    St. Louis +1500. Oww I love San Francisco this year. But in Arizona lies the valuable pick (interesting schedule, btw)
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    • madden
      SBR Hustler
      • 05-10-10
      • 71

      #3
      (Regular season win lines for each team coming soon)
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      • vanc
        SBR High Roller
        • 03-22-10
        • 145

        #4
        Agree on Steelers. I think Ravens are overrated right now.
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        • Zubi
          SBR Sharp
          • 12-26-09
          • 357

          #5
          Madden can't wait till the season starts. What kind of record did you have last year? Thx GS
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          • samdapatriotsfan
            SBR MVP
            • 10-10-08
            • 1585

            #6
            Good stuff Madden, I cannot wait for the season to start either.
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            • filter15
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 11-05-09
              • 549

              #7
              Soo this isn't madden playstation...

              anyways good stuff, cant wait till camp
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              • AlphaOmega
                SBR MVP
                • 12-31-08
                • 1146

                #8
                wrong madden wtf I thought this was a tough actin tanactin prom
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                • Rig
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 11-05-09
                  • 458

                  #9
                  Good take
                  lobe to see more
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                  • madden
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 05-10-10
                    • 71

                    #10
                    OOww I'm sorry for those who expected something else when they read my nickname...

                    I am focused on the MLB right now so I'll be probably posting something in this thread only on a weekly basis

                    @Zubi - Last year was kind of 'magical' to me, everything hitting the jackpot
                    Unfortunately, I was not as deeply involved with the handicapping world as I am know (my last year's crystal ball being part of the reason why I am, now); that's why I have just recently registered here.

                    Can't wait for the football season to begin, as I'm sure you all do, and I hope we all profit well!!

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                    • Bannit16
                      SBR Hustler
                      • 03-31-10
                      • 73

                      #11
                      NFC north is too hard to pick right now, if favre comes back, the vikings are the favorite, if he doesnt, the packers become a very good choice.
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                      • thechaoz
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 10-23-09
                        • 12154

                        #12
                        Ahh talking football never gets old. Ninaz are a lock though. Should of taken it last year
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                        • Zubi
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 12-26-09
                          • 357

                          #13
                          Looking forward to seeing how you do. I will be following you. Thx for the effort.
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                          • frankzig
                            SBR MVP
                            • 10-26-09
                            • 2268

                            #14
                            anybody like to parlays?lmk
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                            • Curse Fire
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 03-20-06
                              • 241

                              #15
                              Cowboys Baby!!!

                              Go Juice Go!!!
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                              • madden
                                SBR Hustler
                                • 05-10-10
                                • 71

                                #16
                                Answers to the football fanatics

                                Originally posted by Bannit16
                                NFC north is too hard to pick right now, if favre comes back, the vikings are the favorite, if he doesnt, the packers become a very good choice.
                                I agree. The best play, here, is not to play. Or better: Since both teams (Green Bay and Vikings) have positive odds, you can (if you are not able to control the finger that touches your mouse) bet on both.
                                I will be incredibly SHOCKED if Chicago wins its division title this year, so you can, let's say, bet $200 on Green Bay (if you win you'll profit 250; and then take 200 out of these 250 and bet on Vikings. If GB wins = +$50 on your bank; If Vikes wins = +$90).

                                But yes, you're right. Waaaayy too early to be betting huge. Specially on this division. And still, waaay too much money to jeopardize for a relatively small profit.
                                Good luck!


                                Originally posted by thechaoz
                                Ahh talking football never gets old. Ninaz are a lock though. Should of taken it last year
                                San Francisco is one of my favorite teams this year. I'll be following them very closely. However, Arizona's schedule seems to play for their advantage, compared to the 49ers. And still, they are a very dangerous team, which makes them more valuable, looking at the odds.
                                You seem to have made up your mind, though, brother. Good luck! 49ers have great chances this year.


                                Originally posted by Zubi
                                Looking forward to seeing how you do. I will be following you. Thx for the effort.
                                Me too! Thanks, hope I don't cause your bankroll too much trouble (odds -54933 I won't ). You're welcome, brother!

                                Originally posted by frankzig
                                anybody like to parlays?lmk
                                Specially when odds are too small, but still valuable (say, -400 (which is like 1.25-1, which means you're gonna have to win 4 times to break even if you lose the fifth = 75%) when you consider the result you expect is 85% probable) I enjoy placing some picks on a parlay, since I'm not expecting too profit much on single bets, and the chances of hitting it are not overwhelmingly reduced when you're playing with (at least on your mind) huge favorites.

                                Maybe I will place some parlays here this season. Follow up!
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                                • madden
                                  SBR Hustler
                                  • 05-10-10
                                  • 71

                                  #17
                                  EDIT:

                                  @thechaoz: no doubts 80% of the NFC West title will be determined by the 2 games they will play against one another, though. It's a good idea to check how well they'll play facing one another.
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                                  • toober89
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 02-22-10
                                    • 110

                                    #18
                                    was expecting something about the video game....
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                                    • madden
                                      SBR Hustler
                                      • 05-10-10
                                      • 71

                                      #19
                                      Sorry, man... but my thread will be as good as the videogame!!

                                      EDIT: I don't like Pittsburgh anymore. This weekend I'll update my second post, probably picking the Ravens as their division winner. I just have to see if Bengal's odds aren't more interesting
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                                      • kroyrunner89
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 10-25-08
                                        • 1191

                                        #20
                                        Bengals are quite the interesting team this year, if anyone takes down the Ravens it'll be them so I like your read there
                                        2011 NFL: 4-0 ATS
                                        2010 NFL: 21-31 ATS (Stopped after Week 12)
                                        2009 NFL: 55-30-1 ATS
                                        2008 NFL: 57-36-2 ATS

                                        Overall: 137-97-3 ATS
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                                        • Cornerback
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 12-15-09
                                          • 653

                                          #21
                                          Just 4 more long months until FOOTBALL

                                          Oh and welcome.
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                                          • slacker00
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 10-06-05
                                            • 12262

                                            #22
                                            Anyone can pick chalk. Give us some gems nobody is talking about.
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                                            • brooks85
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 01-05-09
                                              • 44709

                                              #23
                                              bengals are the best bet up there.
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                                              • madden
                                                SBR Hustler
                                                • 05-10-10
                                                • 71

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Cornerback
                                                Just 4 more long months until FOOTBALL Oh and welcome.
                                                Thanks, man! Yeah, I know... all this time between now and the regular season is the reason why this thread will begin slowly

                                                Originally posted by slacker00
                                                Anyone can pick chalk. Give us some gems nobody is talking about.
                                                Sometimes what's obvious is obvious
                                                I am really busy right now to study hard the NFL, specially with 4 months left to begin the regular season (check quote above).
                                                I already created a blog in which I intend to place the gems you're asking for, but first I have to look for them.
                                                I will turn public it's adress as soon as I get some valuable stuff in it, so check this thread if you want to see stuff nobody talks about in the NFL.
                                                To end, I guess I will use this thread as a way to place my picks, and my picks only, and my blog adress will provide you all the reasons why I consider relevant the picks I place.
                                                Hoping to get more insights from you!
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                                                • balman
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 10-29-09
                                                  • 387

                                                  #25
                                                  good luck madden i will follow your thread but whats with the orange font?

                                                  cheers
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                                                  • johnson
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 02-24-10
                                                    • 184

                                                    #26
                                                    Like Green Bay this year.
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                                                    • madden
                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                      • 05-10-10
                                                      • 71

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by balman
                                                      good luck madden i will follow your thread but whats with the orange font? cheers
                                                      You're right man, I read one of my posts in another computer and it looks really bad, I don't know why it was fine for me before.
                                                      I just didn't want the default colorless black and orange is my favorite color.

                                                      I will try a football-field green now

                                                      Thanks for following!
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                                                      • GunShard
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 03-05-10
                                                        • 10032

                                                        #28
                                                        49ers and Saints are the only good spots to bet on.

                                                        I dislike the Colts and Chargers Head Coaches.
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                                                        • madden
                                                          SBR Hustler
                                                          • 05-10-10
                                                          • 71

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by GunShard
                                                          49ers and Saints are the only good spots to bet on. I dislike the Colts and Chargers Head Coaches.
                                                          I find it really hard to believe the Colts or the Chargers will be worse than their competitors (stuff like Denver or Houston), although I do believe they will have much more problems this year. San Diego may not be a good pick only because they've got very low odds and there's still plenty of time to the beginning of the season.

                                                          Interesting for you to mention the 49ers, my new blog's first post will be about them. Don't forget to check it out when I publish it!
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                                                          • SpreadSniper
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 02-17-09
                                                            • 6125

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by vanc
                                                            Agree on Steelers. I think Ravens are overrated right now.
                                                            I am extremely biased here, but how can you figure the Ravens are "overrated"?

                                                            Folks are quick to ignore what Philly can do just cause McNabb left.... from what I saw outta Kolb last season, Philly is in fine shape.
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                                                            • jhack704
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 06-04-09
                                                              • 5346

                                                              #31
                                                              tampa +2500... what the last 5 of 6 yrs or so the last place team from previous yr won the division the next yr. i think carolina won it when atl lost in ryans rookie yr in week 17. why not bet 100 and see if you can win 2500
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                                                              • madden
                                                                SBR Hustler
                                                                • 05-10-10
                                                                • 71

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by SpreadSniper
                                                                I am extremely biased here, but how can you figure the Ravens are "overrated"? Folks are quick to ignore what Philly can do just cause McNabb left.... from what I saw outta Kolb last season, Philly is in fine shape.
                                                                Thank you very much for your insights, brother.
                                                                As I said, these are thoughts to be considered while extremely early in the year. And I said, a couple of posts above, that I don't like Pittsburgh anymore . Soon I will repost (or edit) what I said above, but only 1 or 2 different considerations.

                                                                About the "overrated" stuff: I use to look at the odds before I place a pick. 1- Is Baltimore a playoff potential? Definitely. 2- Is Baltimore a Superbowl potential? Why not??? 3- With strong competition like Pittsburgh and Bengals in their division, and still months away from the beginning of the regular season, does Baltimore have more than 50% chance to win their division, to justify picking a -110 odd? No, I didn't consider it would be a valuable bet that moment. My mind can change, though.

                                                                About Philadelphia: Don't think I forgot them just because of McNabb. Actually, I haven't forgotten them at all. But with teams improving all around the league, I look hard and can't find Philadelphia as a team that improved, and even if they have (which I don't doubt), they didn't as much as other teams. But I will look them closely, thanks

                                                                Originally posted by jhack704
                                                                tampa +2500... what the last 5 of 6 yrs or so the last place team from previous yr won the division the next yr. i think carolina won it when atl lost in ryans rookie yr in week 17. why not bet 100 and see if you can win 2500
                                                                If there is a completely irrelevant trend in sports world, it's the historical-conditional ones. Yeah, Indianapolis is 8-0 in the fifth game of the season playing home after allowing 20 or more points in the previous game when the wind is +10mph. I won't bet on them if the same conditions apply, unless I believe it to be a good bet, and by other reasons entirely. If Jacksonville, Denver and Seattle (not incredible but not crappy teams) were competing with them I would agree that +2500 is a valuable odd, but not in its Atlanta/Saints/Carolina division.

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                                                                • madden
                                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                                  • 05-10-10
                                                                  • 71

                                                                  #33
                                                                  TOP 10 IMPROVED TEAMS

                                                                  Starting with the 49ers, I intend to create 10 posts which will deeply focus into relevant information regarding teams that I believe will be better (or much better) than last year. That's why you shouldn't expect seeing the Saints or the Colts in this series of posts (hard to improve- when you go to a Superbowl)

                                                                  Well, well. Let me begin with the 49ers. They had a losing record for 7 years. Last season, with a more stable QB, and a good offense (better numbers in rushing, passing, TDs and much more than their opps.) when many expected the defense to do all the work for the team, they got an 8-8 record.



                                                                  Who is crazy enough to think, with a weak Seattle and St.Louis in their division, and an Arizona far from the 2009 playoff-miracle team, that the 49ers won't have its best record in many years?


                                                                  49ers first 2 weeks will be crucial. If they manage to lose to the Seahawks in Seattle (which is possible) and then LOSE again, playing home against the Saints (which is not only possible, but likely, if New Orleans begins this season like the last one - on fire), handicappers all around will start to worry about beating their OVER win line (and with reason).



                                                                  Specially because, taking a closer look at the bottom part of the schedule, you'll see games AT pumped-up playoff contenders Arizona, Green Bay and San Diego, in weeks that will probably further determine their spot in the postseason. Expect tough games, specially in 12/5 and 12/16, when they will face blood-seeking home teams.


                                                                  Adding to that, check the time spam. A tough game home against Seattle, and FOUR days later they travel to face San Diego. This doesn't look good

                                                                  Something people should see with good eyes about this San Francisco team is that key people seem to want to play there. Even the players know this team has potential. Patrick Willis, no further comments needed, just signed, two weeks ago, a contract extension. Singletary looks happy, not going anywhere, more mature at his 52. Vernon Davis, Pro Bowl TE who tied Antonio Gates' NFL record for touchdowns in a season (13) last year, seems to be following the same path "That'd be good, when I eventually sign my extension. It's not something that's heavy on my mind. I'm not really thinking about it at the moment. I like to let things come to me.". He said that while attending 49ers's training camp. Crabtree is going to play even better this year. Pieces are falling in the right places, ladies and gentlemen.


                                                                  49ers' first two draft picks this year were offensive linemen (2 good ones, by the way, strong, big and scary), showing their commitment to improving the odds of having even less interceptions thrown (14). Less pressure on the quarterback not only can reduce the number of sacks (40 last season), but will be an offensive boost to a strong Frank Gore (10 TDs/+1000yds performance)


                                                                  Well, this is big enough already. I will probably post a "part 2" to this as soon as I gather more news about the 49ers. Next, 49ers' highlights from last season and my win line prediction for this year.


                                                                  My early conclusions are:
                                                                  49ers expected regular season record: 10-6.
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                                                                  • kroyrunner89
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 10-25-08
                                                                    • 1191

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by madden
                                                                    If there is a completely irrelevant trend in sports world, it's the historical-conditional ones. Yeah, Indianapolis is 8-0 in the fifth game of the season playing home after allowing 20 or more points in the previous game when the wind is +10mph. I won't bet on them if the same conditions apply, unless I believe it to be a good bet, and by other reasons entirely.
                                                                    Amen brother.
                                                                    2011 NFL: 4-0 ATS
                                                                    2010 NFL: 21-31 ATS (Stopped after Week 12)
                                                                    2009 NFL: 55-30-1 ATS
                                                                    2008 NFL: 57-36-2 ATS

                                                                    Overall: 137-97-3 ATS
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                                                                    • Jrod124
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 10-31-09
                                                                      • 5622

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I hope man, 49ers have alot of talent and can certainly win that divison
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