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  • Morrisbettor
    SBR High Roller
    • 02-22-09
    • 154

    #1
    For those of you who are on the Saints
    Just want to get the other sides perspective on this...Manning had one week to prepare for arguably the best defense in the NFL, and he shredded them. He now has two weeks to prepare for one of the worst statistical defenses in the NFL. I know they force a lot of turnovers, but that can't be considered a possible game changer because Manning takes care of the ball. When facing defenses ranked 20th or worse this year he averaged 310 yards passing, and threw 20 TD's to only 5 interceptions. Thoughts anyone?
  • PAULYPOKER
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 12-06-08
    • 36581

    #2
    Manning outdoors this year
    ---2009--CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT RAT
    Outdoors 260 358 2877 72.6-- 8.04 80 17 -10 -100.3

    Saints are more known for forcing turnovers literally even on offense nobody put it better than Shannon Sharpe when
    Robert Meachem chased down Kareem Moore after a Breeze interception only to steal it right back off of him to return it for a Saints touch down in week 13 against the Redskins, Shannon said "Thief!!" if this man did this on the street he would have been arrested as a criminal. All 22 starters practice this in every practice, also the way they got away with potential homiside on Brett Farve, Damn near Killed him I'll add, I see the same happening to Manning and he simply never had to deal with this kind of shear torture before, it will be interesting to see how Peyton handles it
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    • ol'Tex
      SBR Sharp
      • 01-08-10
      • 318

      #3
      Pauly, FYI his name is spelled FAVRE, not Farve..

      and if you look at the stats, Favre was sacked 34 times this year.. compared to the 10 sacks manning had to endure.

      Manning WILL NOT, I repeat WILL NOT have to go through what Favre did.. the colts know that he is the key to their offense, and has made it top priority to protect him at all cost, at all times.. also he is not a glory hog like favre is. if he sees the pressure coming, and knows he made the wrong adjustment, no problem, he will go down and hit em for 20 on the next play..

      the saints have a bad habit of being to aggressive and get many unneccissary penalties. i GUARANTEE you that if they try to pull the same bullshiiit in miami, as they did in N'Olens, the refs will be giving manning yards on a silver platter. you will not see the Colts give up 5 turnovers in this game, ill put down every point I have on that one.

      manning and brees can both score, and will score.. what this will come down to is the defense. i give more credit to the colts, and will make enough key stops to keep them in the lead.

      Colts FTW
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      • PAULYPOKER
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 12-06-08
        • 36581

        #4
        we shall see remember if they get away with it he will be hit on every play he doesn't have to be sacked just beat senseless okay OLTEX
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        • PAULYPOKER
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 12-06-08
          • 36581

          #5
          Originally posted by ol'Tex
          Pauly, FYI his name is spelled FAVRE, not Farve.. and if you look at the stats, Favre was sacked 34 times this year.. compared to the 10 sacks manning had to endure. Manning WILL NOT, I repeat WILL NOT have to go through what Favre did.. the colts know that he is the key to their offense, and has made it top priority to protect him at all cost, at all times.. also he is not a glory hog like favre is. if he sees the pressure coming, and knows he made the wrong adjustment, no problem, he will go down and hit em for 20 on the next play.. the saints have a bad habit of being to aggressive and get many unneccissary penalties. i GUARANTEE you that if they try to pull the same bullshiiit in miami, as they did in N'Olens, the refs will be giving manning yards on a silver platter. you will not see the Colts give up 5 turnovers in this game, ill put down every point I have on that one. manning and brees can both score, and will score.. what this will come down to is the defense. i give more credit to the colts, and will make enough key stops to keep them in the lead. Colts FTW
          Aparently you did not read my Post's on Freeny cause if you did you wouldn't be making that comment about the Colts having the better De on Sunday
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          • Busterflywheel
            SBR MVP
            • 12-13-09
            • 3991

            #6
            Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
            Aparently you did not read my Post's on Freeny cause if you did you wouldn't be making that comment about the Colts having the better De on Sunday
            I agree that in this S.B with Freeneys status you are correct in your post about Saints having better D-Line at this point..
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            • ol'Tex
              SBR Sharp
              • 01-08-10
              • 318

              #7
              Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
              Aparently you did not read my Post's on Freeny cause if you did you wouldn't be making that comment about the Colts having the better De on Sunday
              there are more people on the colts D than FREENEY, and APPARENTLY you cant spell, as I have seen a lot of your work.

              Pauly, i do read a lot of your posts, and you always make these predictions, and have all of these conspiracies behind why they do not go your way.. how games are fixed, and the media controls the outcome and whatnot. not to mention you always bring up all these statistics.. some relevant, and some absolutely pointless and i feel like you never consider the other side. i have seen you yoyo from warner to favre to brees, predicting superbowl contests based on the media, book conspiracies, pointing out how the dogs must win because otherwise the books lose money.. Pauly, have you ever considered that while, yes there will be times where the dogs upset, and the books make money, but other times the public covers, and the books have to pay out money? i dont mean to bash but when i first joined this board and saw your posts, some were interesting and compelling despite the fact that you never punctuate and cant spell for shit.. but you also make these off the wall predictions and comparisons without ever publicly stating your sides, yet claim records, and call people out while staying cryptic at the same time.. im not trying to bash you or anything, im just trying to be honest. if i am coming off as rude i apologise in advance.

              the fact of the matter is that we can put up all the facts and figures that we want, but sports can go either way.. no matter what the stats are, the big dogs can be defeated, and the underdogs can be victorious.. the stats dont really matter, it comes down to experience, motivation, and execution.

              with that said, the colts are a well oiled, meticulous, calculating machine. they have arguably one of the best qbs ever to play the game, and have the experience of being in the SB before, which counts for something..

              so all stats aside, i say that the colts will cover, and win.
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              • PAULYPOKER
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 12-06-08
                • 36581

                #8
                Originally posted by ol'Tex
                there are more people on the colts D than FREENEY, and APPARENTLY you cant spell, as I have seen a lot of your work. Pauly, i do read a lot of your posts, and you always make these predictions, and have all of these conspiracies behind why they do not go your way.. how games are fixed, and the media controls the outcome and whatnot. not to mention you always bring up all these statistics.. some relevant, and some absolutely pointless and i feel like you never consider the other side. i have seen you yoyo from warner to favre to brees, predicting superbowl contests based on the media, book conspiracies, pointing out how the dogs must win because otherwise the books lose money.. Pauly, have you ever considered that while, yes there will be times where the dogs upset, and the books make money, but other times the public covers, and the books have to pay out money? i dont mean to bash but when i first joined this board and saw your posts, some were interesting and compelling despite the fact that you never punctuate and cant spell for shit.. but you also make these off the wall predictions and comparisons without ever publicly stating your sides, yet claim records, and call people out while staying cryptic at the same time.. im not trying to bash you or anything, im just trying to be honest. if i am coming off as rude i apologise in advance. the fact of the matter is that we can put up all the facts and figures that we want, but sports can go either way.. no matter what the stats are, the big dogs can be defeated, and the underdogs can be victorious.. the stats dont really matter, it comes down to experience, motivation, and execution. with that said, the colts are a well oiled, meticulous, calculating machine. they have arguably one of the best qbs ever to play the game, and have the experience of being in the SB before, which counts for something.. so all stats aside, i say that the colts will cover, and win.
                Yes you are absolutely right but this is the Superbowl we are talking about there will be more money on this one game than practacally the entire season combined so long story short public will lose there was only one time in which I canrember when public won it was one of the Rams Super bowls I believe and it was on the news for months how the books took it in the ass all I'm saying it is to be on the wrong side of the picture as far as this game goes I don't know last time I checked Books were making billions while the majority of the public was taking the bridge
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                • PAULYPOKER
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 12-06-08
                  • 36581

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ol'Tex
                  so all stats aside, i say that the colts will cover, and win.
                  I can't argue with you on the Colts winning but I know they are most likely not going to cover if they win and that's if it will be by 1 to 3 points
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                  • ol'Tex
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 01-08-10
                    • 318

                    #10
                    granted there are more bets on the superbowl, but the thing is that this is the time where people who never ever bet come on and join the action.. while the percentages of the bets may be on one side, the side has been fluctuating up and down due to the money coming in on both sides.

                    there are plenty of people who have a soft spots for the saints and will bet on them, and other sharps who go by stats and will put money on the saints. on the flip side there are people who watch a lot of ball who think the saints got lucky, or are manning backers, or sharps who see the other obstacles like experience, penalties, and intangibles who will put money on the colts..

                    sure the books may not make the full 10 percent, they may make 6 percent, or hell maybe even 3 percent.. but 3 percent of 100 million dollars is not a bad deal for one days work.

                    not to mention all of the money that will be lost on prop bets and all that other crap.

                    the thing that would make the books lose money is getting middled, which is something that they will never ever let happen again!

                    in normal circumstances i would say that you are right, and that it would be an extremely tight game, but knowing that the colts have been here, have the experience, have a more sound and methodical approach to the game, i think they will just march to victory.. i think the pressures of the big game, playing out of their element, and the pressures of the city and the media will be too much for them to overcome.

                    however, i do wish them luck because my roots are in Louisiana and ill be partying my ass of no matter who wins!
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                    • DaColts
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-07-07
                      • 1185

                      #11
                      Great point Manning vs Saints D is this game and he'll eat them alive. Pauli I belive you must have missed Garson do the same on a Int when he ran down Blt to make a fumble to get the ball back. Vs blt in the playoffs. The ain't D gives up way to many pts for the turnovers the make. Without all of the turnover they might have the Worst D in the NFL
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                      • PAULYPOKER
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 12-06-08
                        • 36581

                        #12
                        Originally posted by DaColts
                        Great point Manning vs Saints D is this game and he'll eat them alive. Pauli I belive you must have missed Garson do the same on a Int when he ran down Blt to make a fumble to get the ball back. Vs blt in the playoffs. The ain't D gives up way to many pts for the turnovers the make. Without all of the turnover they might have the Worst D in the NFL
                        you are right and they know this so this is why they take cheap shots like throttling the QB to the ground long after he releases the ball and stealing the ball like they are kids all over again in their backyard playing smear the Queer, Hell this is how Freeny hurt his ankle in the first place by pulling up from hitting Sanchez so now Dwight's rewarded with an injury for playing the good guy
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                        • DaColts
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-07-07
                          • 1185

                          #13
                          Yeah the saints do play with class give Manning and co. a free 15 yd is like shooting yourself if the foot. If the aints play drity like that the fans they just got won't be there ong either. Who likes the dirty team any way. At least the Colts play and win with class
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                          • ol'Tex
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 01-08-10
                            • 318

                            #14
                            manning is the NFL poster boy right now, Favre was on his way out.. if they try to **** with manning like they did with favre, bet your bottom dollar they will penalize the saints till they shape up
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                            • twentyonekid
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 08-09-09
                              • 883

                              #15
                              OL"TEX,..what are you some kind of a over zealous school teacher or something....who cares if he mispelled a name or word,thats not the object of this thread,...this is about football,the SUPER BOWL...quit being so anal about what is spelled right and talk about the SUPER BOWL......no one cares about how they spell stuff on the internet,especially a sports forum,so quit being an azz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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