Green Bay-Arizona II

[cap10]

we have 2 jekyyl and hyde tms;; gb blew out ari last game ;; bad move;; ari did the walk thru;; revenge + warner's experience over rodgers;; and i like rodgers and gb as a tm;; but will play ari to win this game by 7;; jmo;; gl

[your pixel army]

Sharp post.


I don't know who wins this. I lean GB, but I will have no money on this one. I agree with LT for the 2nd time ever that GREEN BAY could take this s_hit to the superbowl but I'm staying away... for now.

Really, how is that a sharp post?

Every. Single. Person. who watched that game knew that the Cardinals were laying down, and the Packers were building momentum for the playoffs.

Perhaps someone looking to win the lottery was tuned into something else on Sunday. Maybe the Adult Swim reruns at 8pm, but really?

A sharp bettor would be someone who gave a legitimate reason as to why ken whisenhunt rested most of his starters, but let fitzgerald stay out and risk injury while he tried to gain 100 catches on the season.

[andywend]

There is no better angle when 95% of the posters are on the same side.

I love Arizona in this game.

Arizona is -109/Green Bay is +107 @ Matchbook on the money line.

I am willing to offer +110 and the Packers straight up to anyone who would like to bet. I'll take Arizona on the moneyline and lay 11 to 10.

I have 713 SBR points so all those interested in betting on the Packers, please go to the SBR points section and find my post.

Once again, I'm offering +110 on the Packers straight up which is slightly better than any price you can find.

[Bigmikesm]

this is not the same Cardinals team as last year. I like the Pack to win here by a touchdown.

[no1here]

Cinderella's are so called caused they only happen once, Arizona is not in the same space/zone that they were in last year at this time. Green Bay is the Cinderella team this year. Dallas is outstanding right now while New Orleans is hopeless and exhusted. Green Bay/Minnesota is a great matchup.
I would prefer Minnesota but this one is left to the heavens and either Brett Favre is the hero or goat.
If indeed Green Bay is this year Cinderella team then good things will happen for them including at least two interceptions. While I don't have much respect for Green Bay but know that I should, Favre is one of the best and with a Superbowl win this year he is in top 3 best ever quarterbacks behind Montana and Namath. Brett Favre has had an outstanding year and clearly on a mission as is Green Bay.

[6_Feet_Under]

Did you just type Joe Namath is a top 3 QB all time?Haha,that's a moronic statement.Did I read that correctly?

[cadillac pete]

You have to love teams that come into the playoffs, hot and the Pack fit the mold. I like they didn't rest their starters last Sunday and kept them in their routine. Resting is for the offseason. Players get paid to play.

[blueghost]

will take PACKERS ..GB offensive line giving Rodgers better protection lately and GRANTS rushing against a low ranked rushing defense should be the difference

[slacker00]

I actually think that the Saints and the Vikings could both lose next week the way they struggled down the stretch, and that the Packers could conceivably become the favorites to win the NFC once next week is over.

So you see GB being favored going into Dallas after that dust settles? I don't.

[lakerboy]

Holy shit almost every guy in this thread is on gb. They got whipped twice by minny and big ben shredded them apart and not to mention that tb scored at will on them. Are you kidding you think gb is going to win in the desert 2 weeks in a row? I would take warner over rodgers(no playoff games) anytime. Just like last year when so many thought zona would lose to the falcons and their amazing run game lol. Plus whisenhunt prepares his teams better for big games than mccarthy and that has been proven. Cards all the way.

[Mr Handicapable]

I agree with you lakerboy somewhat on GB's defense! They definitely have been lit up at times this year and I don't see how they're ranked so high? I still think they win this weekend though! GB has straightened out their O-line problems and Rodgers is on fire! As good as Warner is....he does turn the ball over & Beanie/Hightower have a serious case of fumble-itis too! This one could go either way but I like my GB+120 play!

[jjgold]

The world is going to be on Packers which worries me and Warner plays well in big gamers

[soxwin]

too many injuries on the Zona side. Plus teams that have the higher seed and the worse record lose 65% ATS I believe. I have to look that up for the exact % but it is well over 60%

[Jag8917]

Green Bay moneyline for me. Solid defense plus solid offense. Arizona is too inconsistent. They're unpredictable.

[slacker00]

too many injuries on the Zona side. Plus teams that have the higher seed and the worse record lose 65% ATS I believe. I have to look that up for the exact % but it is well over 60%

I call B.S. on this statistic. I started looking back and you must have it backwards.

It happened 3 times last postseason: Colts @ Bolts, Falcons @ Cards, Eagles @ Cards. All 3 times the higherseed/worse record won.

[Busterflywheel]

G.B only because ARI is missing some key players...

[slacker00]

G.B only because ARI is missing some key players...

Who?

The Cards aren't missing anyone. DRC & Campbell are playing. I think Boldin will play, but remember that the Cards beat the Panthers last year in the playoffs 33-13 without him.

Don't forget that Woodson for the Packers left the game with an injury as well...

[your pixel army]

From ESPN NFC West blog:

"Rodgers-Cromartie suggested he might not play if he cannot practice Thursday. Young players sometimes react to injuries more dramatically than veterans who have suffered them before. Rodgers-Cromartie (bruised knee). Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt downplayed Rodgers-Cromartie's injury early in the week, saying he expected the Pro Bowl corner to "progress rapidly" this week. Perhaps there was a self-fulling aspect of the proclamation."

I think DRC will play. Boldin was stuck on the bicycle today, and I doubt he goes at 100%.

Woodson's injury was considered insignificant. He could have gone back in, but McCarthy held him out.

[slacker00]

yeah, I'm just saying this injury stuff sometimes gets thrown around in the media. You gotta take it with a grain of salt.

[LT Profits]

So you see GB being favored going into Dallas after that dust settles? I don't.

I said "conceivably" because they could be facing the Eagles.

I agree though, i think NFC Championship will be Green Bay at Dallas, and if they played that game right now, Dallas would only be -3. Then you'd have to factor in how badly the Pack beat the top-seeded Saints to get there.

[kahnner]

G.b. Wins this game! They are the better team right now!
As far as people saying they have no shot to beat minnesota or new orleans you guys dont know what you are talking about! New orleans has been horrible the last 4 weeks and arent going anywhere!

[slacker00]

I said "conceivably" because they could be facing the Eagles.

I agree though, i think NFC Championship will be Green Bay at Dallas, and if they played that game right now, Dallas would only be -3. Then you'd have to factor in how badly the Pack beat the top-seeded Saints to get there.

If the Eagles get by Dallas, somehow, I don't see them going into New Orleans and coming away with a victory. Honestly, the Eagles are not what they were last year. I don't know why people don't see it.

As for the Packers going into Minnesota, there's a reason they were 0-2 this year.

[LT Profits]

Saints and Vikings were both different teams late in the year than earlier on. Eagles seem to play better when everyone counts them out and Packers are hotter than Vikes, which was not the case first two meetings when Minny was peaking.

[slacker00]

Saints and Vikings were both different teams late in the year than earlier on. Eagles seem to play better when everyone counts them out and Packers are hotter than Vikes, which was not the case first two meetings when Minny was peaking.

Minnesota was still 8-0 at home, regardless of any slump, winning by an average score of 35-14. They are an indoor team from top to bottom, they'll have a definite advantage.

[Flying Dutchman]

GB is better than you think, take da points.

[slacker00]

GB is better than you think, take da points.

I think it's down to 1 point, now.

I know exactly how good GB is. I live in Wisconsin. I've followed this team, religiously, since I could throw a football.

There are weaknesses in this team which remain mainly hidden because we haven't played anyone all year. It's hilarious how people watch us pound a resting Cardinals team and think we'll do it again next week. It's like basing something off a preseason game. It just amazes me.

Don't get me wrong, beating any NFL team is no easy task. But this is the playoffs. Maybe it's more that I have genuine respect for some of these other teams in the tournament rather than knocking a decent Packers team which remains untested in a win-or-go-home atmosphere. The Cards ARE tested and they are playing at home, which is significant in the playoffs.

[Flying Dutchman]

Cards are another wussy dome team. As I said in another thread: HFA is almost non-existent for the wussies.

GB gets approx 2 pts for this.

[slacker00]

Cards are another wussy dome team. As I said in another thread: HFA is almost non-existent for the wussies.

GB gets approx 2 pts for this.

Cards were 2-0 in the playoffs last year @ home.

[Flying Dutchman]

as I said in another post, go find a 10 yr db and calc it out.

...you can prove anything with a stat base of 2 flipping games.

[slacker00]

as I said in another post, go find a 10 yr db and calc it out.

...you can prove anything with a stat base of 2 flipping games.

Like I said. Bring your numbers, if you have any. It's not my job to do your homework for you.

[TheCommish]

I don't think it matters what Arizona team shows up... it all lies with Green Bay. If GB shoes up ready to play, they win. If they don't, they lose. If both teams play up to their full potential, I give GB the nod.

[slacker00]

I don't think it matters what Arizona team shows up... it all lies with Green Bay. If GB shoes up ready to play, they win. If they don't, they lose. If both teams play up to their full potential, I give GB the nod.

No respect for Arizona "showing up"?

There are two teams in this game. I think Arizona will have something to say, even if GB "shows up".

[Jonah]

Browsed most of the comments, but forgive me if I am redundant.

AZ does not have much home field advantage to speak of.
DRC not playing would be a much bigger factor than Boldin being out.

AZ is the king of turning it around after a poor performance. Being that it is against the same team, perhaps this will hold true all the more.

AZ has a great run defense so Grant aint doing crap for whoever said that.

One thing that worries me about Arizona besides the fact that Rogers is a great one and can make plays with his feet which is huge in the playoffs(Running for first downs on third down is a back breaker) is that few teams have the stomach to make runs in the playoffs in back to back years.

Still leaning Arizona unless DRC is out or appears to be a head case about his owie.

[waco66]

Usually a good fact when it comes down to how good a team is..their 3rd conversion rate...Packers rank 3rd in the league at 47...Cardinals rank 21 in the league at 36... Cardinals -7 in the turnover margin while Packers are a +24...this ain't last years superbowl team!


Everything...i mean..everything points to a Packers win. Stats and everything. But then agian, thats why they plaay the game!

[Boltafied]

Definitely agree with ya...GB has one of the more balanced teams in the playoffs and SHOULD do well. Not really sure they can advance past the NFC title game though...