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  • Aunty808
    SBR High Roller
    • 09-18-22
    • 193

    #1
    2023-24 NFL System Picks: FOR TRACKING PURPOSES ONLY
    FOR TRACKING PURPOSES ONLY
    I will be tracking my picks here instead of in the NFL Betting forum. (I don't bet money on these games, I just use them for my contest.)
    NFL System
    I am looking to use only the QBR ranking and an OFFENSIVE stat.
    I also take into consideration the DOG consensus in my contest (4K+ players) to get a feel of where the "public" is "betting", using the line at the time I enter the contest. The line changes during the week so I will grade the W/L record using the line when I entered.


    Another factor I consider is my other contest pick percentages (40K+members). Pick percentages are *SU picks. I use the pick percentages to find my RED FLAG games because that's where most of the upsets occur.


    *SU Picks Note
    There's been alot of discussion on several boards I frequent on the subject of the "points don't matter" in the NFL.
    It's always been MY opinion that if you can pick the SU winner in the game, the points won't matter, with two exceptions.
    One is the DOUBLE DIGIT line. Most times, the favorite will win SU, but not cover the DD line.
    Two is line movement.
    Bottom line is, get the best line you can find. That half point can change a win to a loss, vice versa.

    Using last week's games as an example,
    Using closing lines in my contest, the only teams that won SU, but lost ATS were Phil-8' vs Wash and KC-10 vs NYJ.
    Denver won SU, but PUSHED ATS. With the rest of the games, the winner won both SU and ATS.





    Getting back to the System.....
    If a Road Fav has a pick percentage of 90% or higher, they usually, but not always, either LOSE the game outright or FAIL TO COVER the spread. PLAY AGAINST



    Example of this from this past week is the Road Fav KC-8', with a pick percentage of 98%. NYJ almost pulled the upset, but came up short. Final score 23-20.

    If a Road Dog has a pick percentage of 10% or less, they are the teams that usually, but not always, WIN the games outright or COVER the spread. **PLAY ON
    (**BUT, if the consensus (from the other contest) is picking the Road Dog, it's a PLAY AGAINST, take the Home Fav.)


    Example from last week is Road Dog Ariz+14 with a 2% pick percentage. My other contest had the consensus (51%) on Ariz, making Ariz a play against, play on SF.
    Final score SF 35-16.



    And last night, Chicago had a 4% pick percentage vs Wash, and was also the higher rankedteam in the Offensive stat that I use in the System. That made Chicago the System pick.
    Final: Chicago 40-20

    See next post for Week 5 Picks. Said file was too big for one post.
  • Aunty808
    SBR High Roller
    • 09-18-22
    • 193

    #2
    Week 5

    SYSTEM PICKS(Will edit to add lines at the time I enter the contest)
    (Pick %) Team


    **(4%)Chic +6 @ Wash
    Pick: Chicago
    I used Chic+6 in the Survivor Contest @Covers last night.


    **(4%) JAX @ Buff (London)
    Pick: Buffalo


    Hou @ ATL
    PicK: Houston
    Houston is a DOG consensus (56%/65%) Play Against.


    **(2%) Car @ Det
    Pick: Detroit


    Tenn @ Ind
    Pick: Indy
    Tricky matchup.
    Indy's opening line was -1. Looking at the contest today, line moved to Tenn-2'.
    When I looked at the early week consensus, Tenn was the one point DOG. The consensus then was on Tenn(56%/80%). Today the consensus is still on Tenn (56%/61%), but Tenn is now a FAV, not DOG. I was trying to educate myself with line movements and I remember reading an article about this situation and it said in part


    ".....football underdogs that become betting favorites often lose. So how do you know when to follow the crowd?
    This is why knowledge and research matter. If a betting line has moved significantly and you can't identify (or disagree with) reasons why, that's a market mover to avoid or consider taking the other side. If the reasons for the line movement are valid, then following the sharps may make more sense. You might have missed that early line movement, but a winner is still a winner and any profit is better than a loss".

    Reason for movement using the contest consensus is valid. Everyone is taking Tenn so make them the favorite.
    So maybe I should play against the system pick and take Tenn? I dunno.

    **(1%) NYG @ Mia
    Pick: Mia


    NO @ NE
    PicK NE


    **(90%) Balt @ Pitt
    Pick: QB for Pitt is ? System is based on QBR.Update when QB for Pitt is confirmed.


    Cinn @ Ariz
    Pick: Ariz
    Ariz is a DOG consensus(56%/71%) Play Against


    Phil @ LAR
    Pick: **LAR
    **If Stafford plays, he's listed on the injury list (hip), but had full practice on Wed.


    *NYJ @ Den
    Pick: Denver
    (*In contest NYJ is DOG consensus (55%/59%)


    **(91%) KC @ Minn
    Pick: Minn


    Dal @ SF
    Pick: SF


    GB @LV
    Pick: LV starting QB ? No Play until QB confirmed.


    **RED FLAG GAMES
    Road Dog (Under 10% Pick %)
    4% Chicago
    4% JAX
    2% Carolina
    1% NYG


    Road Fav ( 90%+ Pick %)
    90% Balt
    91% KC


    I follow certain cappers on different boards, so if I read something interesting I might fade my System's Pick.
    System picks will not be affected. Only way System picks will change is if consensus moves the other way.
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    • Aunty808
      SBR High Roller
      • 09-18-22
      • 193

      #3
      Updating with Contest lines - Early Games

      I am entering the "RAW" System picks without the noise.

      Jax +5'
      This is an exception. Raw pick was Buffalo.

      Hou +2'
      Houston was a play against, DOG consensus take the Fav.

      Det -10
      A Red Flag game, possible loser.

      NE-1'
      This game is a tricky pick. When I entered my other pick 5 contest, the line was NE+1. Today when I entered the main contest, NE is now the favorite. This game fall in the ".football underdogs that become betting favorites often lose" catagory. See note above in original post.

      Ind +2'
      Same as the NO/NE game, but applies to Tenn. Tenn was one point dog when I first checked the contest lines on Tuesday. They flipped and now is a two point favorite.



      Balt -4'
      Early week pick % was at 90%, making this a Red Flag game. When I entered the contest today, consensus dropped to 86%, no longer a Red Flag game.

      Want to see how these turn out, then will add the other games .
      good luck to all

      Edit: I forgot Mia
      Mia-13
      A Red Flag game, possible loser.
      Last edited by Aunty808; 10-08-23, 01:12 PM. Reason: added Mia game
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      • Aunty808
        SBR High Roller
        • 09-18-22
        • 193

        #4
        Late Games/MNF updated with contest lines

        Late GamesMNF
        Same as the morning games
        RAW picks without the *noise


        Ariz +3
        *Ariz is a DOG consensus/Play Fav


        LAR+4


        Den -2'
        *NYJ is a DOG consensus/Play Fav


        Minn +3'
        *KC is a 90% Road Fav/ Play Against




        SF -3'


        LV-1
        * Not sure of QB yet, but put the pick in anyways. Pick based on O'Connell at QB.
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        • Aunty808
          SBR High Roller
          • 09-18-22
          • 193

          #5
          Just got home from work and after looking over the scores, today was a bad hair day for the System. I'll do the final updating with W/L and scores later.

          Just wanted to say what I've learned today.
          First off, this System is based on the idea of "If you don't have a QB, you don't have any offense".

          Today I learned NE's Mac Jones IS NOT a QB. Led the team to 0 points and got benched.
          On the other hand Jared Goff IS. Looks like Detroit is for real.

          I also learned that watching the games and listening to the pregame show for stats and trends can help me apply the info to the picks, making better choices, either fading or playing it.

          An example from today's games:

          In hindsight should have taken the NYJ. Heard earlier in the week about the bulletin board material about something Sean Payton said. Jets used that for motivation and beat Payton's Broncos.

          And using trends that I read on the net like (C/P trends from another board)
          Play on NFL Double Digit Favorites (MIA) that gave up 35 or more points the week before.
          or
          Steelers are 6-4 SU and Ats last 10 meetings. The underdog is 10-0 Ats last 10 meetings.

          There's so much info out there.....just got to learn how to apply that info to the System's picks.

          Anyway, I'll do the System another week and see how it goes. If it's really bad, I can always just fade the picks in my contest. On the other hand, the NCAAF System is getting really good results, can't wait to do the game this week. Stats get updated on Monday, so can't start till then.



          And FWIW- If you picked the winner in today's games, the points didn't matter....even the double-digit points! Atlanta was the only team to win SU but lost ATS to Houston.

          Be back later with final (bad)results.
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          • Aunty808
            SBR High Roller
            • 09-18-22
            • 193

            #6
            Final Results

            PICK/ SCORE/ RESULTS W/L-SU/ATS

            Chic+6 40-20 WW
            Jax+5' 25-20 WW
            Hou +2' 19-21 LW
            Det-10 42-24 WW
            Indy+2' 23-16 WW
            Mia-13 31-16 WW
            NE-1'' 0-34 LL
            Balt-4' 17-10 LL
            Ariz+3 20-34 LL
            LAR+4 14-23 LL
            Den-2' 21-31 LL
            Minn+3' 20-27 LL
            SF-3' 42-10 WW


            EDIT:MNF
            LV-1 17-13 WW


            *Note: In the past when I did any system/method in the NFL, they all had the same W/L pattern.
            System won the first four weeks, and like clockwork, regressed to the mean in week 5. Rinse and repeat throughout the season.
            I only started tracking from week 4 because I was still doing baseball so I don't know what the first three week results are.
            If it's like the past years, next week picks should bounce back.....we'll see.

            ** I don't bet real money on any of my picks, but if I did bet the NFL, I would just try to figure out who the SU winner of the game would be AND THEN try to find the best line I could find. I'll say it again, it's been MY opinion that if you find the SU winner, the points won't matter in the majority of the games. The double-digit favorites usually win but don't cover, and the other factor that comes into play most times is the half point, making a push a win or loss, depending what side you're on. See results above.
            Last edited by Aunty808; 10-10-23, 06:32 AM. Reason: Update Final Results/Score MNF game
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            • Aunty808
              SBR High Roller
              • 09-18-22
              • 193

              #7
              Week 6 System Picks

              One notable trend this week is, no one (consensus) is picking the DOGS . Looks like the Doggies will be barking this week.

              This week's System Picks are

              Den @ KC
              Pick: KC
              This is a Red Flag game. RD Denver's pick % is 3%.


              Car @ Mia
              Pic: Mia
              This is a Red Flag game. RD Carolina's pick % is 1%.


              Ariz @ LAR
              Pick: LAR
              This is a Red Flag game. RD Arizona's pick % is 5%


              NYG @ Buff
              Pick: Buff
              This is a Red Flag game. RD NYG's pick % is 2%.


              SF @ Clev
              Pick: SF
              This is a Red Flag game. RF SF pick % is 96%.


              Phil@ NYJ
              Pick: Phil
              This is a Red Flag game. RF Phil pick % is 95%.


              Minn @ Chic
              Pick: Minn

              Sea @ Cinn
              Pick: Sea


              NO @ Hou
              Pick: Hou


              Indy @ Jax
              Pick: Indy


              NE @ LV
              Pick: LV


              Det @ TB
              Pick: Det


              Dal @ LAC
              Pick: LAC


              Balt @ Tenn
              Pick: Balt


              Wash @ Atl
              Pick: Atl

              Will update results using the closing line when I enter the contest.
              BOL

              Edit: Changed INDY/JAX pick. QB for INDY out. Minshew in. System Picks based on Starting QB.
              Last edited by Aunty808; 10-15-23, 11:56 AM. Reason: Changed Pick: Jax not pick/ Play Indy
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              • Aunty808
                SBR High Roller
                • 09-18-22
                • 193

                #8
                RE: INDY/JAX Game

                Note to self...

                .....reading another board and poster mentioned

                ".... but Indy can’t play in jville for whatever reason. Even when they were good and j vile was going 1-15 every year they’d take care of Indy at home. "

                I remember writing on a 3X5 card something about the AFC South

                Jax owns Indy
                Indy owns Hou
                Hou owns Jax
                Tenn splits with all- 1st is a loss, 2nd is a win.

                I should have just left the Jax pick.........
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