If you don't think Kentucky will win the NCAA Tournament, get your head examined

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  • ringemup
    SBR MVP
    • 11-24-08
    • 2112

    #71
    if u had said at this point last year that north carolina was going to win it all, i wouldve been ok with that because i predicted too that they would win it all last year a month before the NCAA tourney began. but they were CLEARLY the best team in the land last year by a landslide because of their experience. But u cannot say the same for kentucky. despite their outrageous talent n a superstar in wall, they still are young and yes, if they run into a really tough, defensive team they could be introuble. i do love their talent though and they would be one hell of a team if they didnt get broken up aftr this yr but obviously theres 0% chance of that. unfortunately a lack of experience never equates to a good outing in the NCAA tourney. i expect them to reach at least the elite 8 though they are exciting to watch.
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    • UNCGQ
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 09-08-09
      • 993

      #72
      Originally posted by 2daBank
      im sure the person doing his work for him is very capable
      when I travel, so many casual basketball fans ask me "why didn't UNC go hard after John Wall, he was right there 30 mins away" . . .

      "He just seems more like a Calipari player" I usually respond.

      There's a difference between a program with 'never a hint of anything improper' and a coach that has had two Final Fours vacated.

      With that said, if I had a nickel for every time the 'best team in the country according to it's fans' didn't win the tournament, I've have a villa in Bali.

      In the history of the NCAA Tournament:

      - 10 teams that entered the tournament undefeated didn't win.

      - Only six teams, since the beginning of the seeding process in 1979, have entered the tournament ranked #1 in at least 1 poll and gone on to win the tournament
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      • philswin
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        • 04-18-07
        • 1279

        #73
        You can still be a tard and be "basketball" smart they just have a lot of inexperience,not many players on the team have ever played in an NCAA tourney game. But they have tons of talent. Certainly they can win but definatly not by any means a lock. Wall failed a year in High school and barely got minimum SAT scores to a 3.8 at Kentucky ????? hmmmm
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        • UNCGQ
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 09-08-09
          • 993

          #74
          Originally posted by onthewhat
          Bottom line who gives a shit about big time football and basketball players academics?

          No one. They are there to play sports.
          said like an ideal SEC fan.

          The difference is that some schools actually try and pay attention to the rules and honor them once in a while.

          Some schools will sell their soul for one more shot at some small piece of glory even if they have to give it back five years from now.
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          • hoopster42
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            • 02-12-08
            • 6099

            #75
            Originally posted by philswin
            You cant break down 1 game and determine how a team is going to do in NCAA. Villanova returns 4 starters and adds a top 5 recruiting class off a final four team from last year. Kentucky most talent in the Nation if they can overcome their inexperience in the tourney. Oh I like Coach Cal but no way best coach. There is a guy over at Duke that claims that title.
            according to lindy's they only returned 3 starters and lost "3 key guys from the inside"
            so nova aint as bad as ppl think, the big east is much weaker this yr
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            • hoopster42
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              • 02-12-08
              • 6099

              #76
              Originally posted by ringemup
              if u had said at this point last year that north carolina was going to win it all, i wouldve been ok with that because i predicted too that they would win it all last year a month before the NCAA tourney began. but they were CLEARLY the best team in the land last year by a landslide because of their experience. But u cannot say the same for kentucky. despite their outrageous talent n a superstar in wall, they still are young and yes, if they run into a really tough, defensive team they could be introuble. i do love their talent though and they would be one hell of a team if they didnt get broken up aftr this yr but obviously theres 0% chance of that. unfortunately a lack of experience never equates to a good outing in the NCAA tourney. i expect them to reach at least the elite 8 though they are exciting to watch.
              they were far and away the best team in cbb last season and everyone who follows the sport closely knew it, it was so obvious
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              • UNCGQ
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 09-08-09
                • 993

                #77
                Originally posted by hoopster42
                they were far and away the best team in cbb last season and everyone who follows the sport closely knew it, it was so obvious
                Exactly, this UK team reminds me of the 2006 - 2007 UNC Team in terms of being a 'super talented young team'.

                They won the ACC Tourney and their NCAA tourney games by an average of 12.3 points. Clearly dominating.

                . . . until they ran into a lower ranked, but more experienced Georgetown team. They were even up 11 in the second half and then the shots just stopped falling, and their "youth" left them lost. It went to OT and Georgetown pulled away.

                That team had five current NBA players (4 picked in the 1st round) on it's roster.
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                • Ralphie1412
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-29-08
                  • 13963

                  #78
                  Originally posted by onthewhat
                  1. Best point guard in the country.
                  2. Best big man in the country.
                  3. Two of the best 5 players overall in the country.
                  4. Best coach in the country.
                  5. Best travelling fanbase in the country (turning neutral games to semi-home games).

                  Pretty easy to see who will win it all.


                  No shot kid, did you see those classless thugs in mississippi, calipari had to throw them off the court. Cousins DOESNT get it, hes doing the "call me" after dunks and shit, wall is talking all sorts of shit. Bad recipe for a team that cant hit free throws and has lost to South Carolina and almost lost to Miss St.....SEC teams!! If they run into a well coached, disciplined team like duke or gonzaga or michigan st. they are ****ed. Imagine what happens if they run into kansas or syracuse or nova....no shot

                  Originally posted by LT Profits
                  Kentucky may not even reach Final Four, they are a vulnerable one seed.
                  yup
                  "This is why my basketball intelligence is unmatched on this site. I'm sure there are better cappers but no one can tell you the strategies of most coaches before the game even starts "
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                  • rm18
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 09-20-05
                    • 22291

                    #79
                    Originally posted by hoopster42
                    according to lindy's they only returned 3 starters and lost "3 key guys from the inside"
                    so nova aint as bad as ppl think, the big east is much weaker this yr

                    Reggie Redding was suspended fall semester, but with him back it is 4 starters I think
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                    • lyon804
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 11-02-09
                      • 6526

                      #80
                      Onner, your a nuts... Are you old enough to have watched or heard of a team called the "fab 5" from Michican... Sure your not!!! Anyways, that team started 5 true freshman comprised of 3 future NBA players and would run this Kentucky team you love out of there own building if they played today. Anyways, the fab 5 was not good enough to win it all. I believe they went to the finals 2 straight years they were all together and lost both times and that team was unreal.

                      Kentucky will have a bad nite by a veteran team on a neutral site in the tourney and go home. They are not a championship team. Maybe sweet 16 or Elite 8, but that's it.

                      If that group stayed together than yes maybe, but for a bunch of punks to win it all coached by cheatipari... You crazy bro..

                      Memphis, cheatapri's team had Kansas so beat in the championship and they choked. All Memphis had to do was kill time and hit a few free throws and they win.


                      Not happening bro, but congrats on your SEC championship
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                      • Vesuvius
                        SBR MVP
                        • 02-19-08
                        • 3886

                        #81
                        will to wager some SBR points on it?
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                        • Ralphie1412
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                          • 01-29-08
                          • 13963

                          #82
                          Guys be easy though

                          Herman is 16 years old and just loves his team. Hes only seen one or two tournaments. Doesnt know what it takes.
                          "This is why my basketball intelligence is unmatched on this site. I'm sure there are better cappers but no one can tell you the strategies of most coaches before the game even starts "
                          Goat Milk
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                          • philswin
                            SBR MVP
                            • 04-18-07
                            • 1279

                            #83
                            Villanova

                            Originally posted by hoopster42
                            according to lindy's they only returned 3 starters and lost "3 key guys from the inside"
                            so nova aint as bad as ppl think, the big east is much weaker this yr

                            I go to most of their games only player they lost of note was Dante Cunningham. Shane Clark started a few games but mostly a bench player averaged 5 points a game. Dwayne Anderson another reserve averaged about 6 a game. Returned the rest of the team including the 2 Coreys and Pena who all played. Add #3 ranked recruiting class. Big East weak????
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                            • TJHotpicks
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 11-05-09
                              • 575

                              #84
                              Originally posted by philswin
                              Villanova, Kansas or Kentucky - should be one of those 3 teams
                              May want to take a look at the boys in West Lafayette, Indiana. They are playing into tourney shape and will make the final four if they continue playing like they are.
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                              • Ralphie1412
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-29-08
                                • 13963

                                #85
                                Kansas, Syracuse, Villanova are the clear cut favorites.

                                But would u be surprised if any of these teams made the final four? Michigan St. Purdue Duke Gonzaga West Virginia?

                                So many sleeper teams too like Butler, Kansas St., pitt, vandy
                                "This is why my basketball intelligence is unmatched on this site. I'm sure there are better cappers but no one can tell you the strategies of most coaches before the game even starts "
                                Goat Milk
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                                • UNCGQ
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 09-08-09
                                  • 993

                                  #86
                                  I still think that there are prob a dozen teams this year that could win it all.
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                                  • MartinBlank
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 07-20-08
                                    • 8382

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by Ralphie1412
                                    Guys be easy though

                                    Herman is 16 years old and just loves his team. Hes only seen one or two tournaments. Doesnt know what it takes.
                                    That is a good point.

                                    The young lad probably wasn't alive when Laettner stole Kentucky's heart.

                                    Or when Eddie Sutton was throwing cash at players.

                                    And he certainly hasn't seen John Calipari fall apart year/year when the pressure is on.

                                    Hell, the kid probably doesn't even remember what Calipari did with a 5 point lead and a minute remaining against Kansas in the national championship game a few years ago.
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                                    • Ralphie1412
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 01-29-08
                                      • 13963

                                      #88
                                      yup.

                                      Calipari is NOT the best coach ever. Hes a "good" recruiter if you dont go by the rules. Hes scumbag who has left 2 programs holding their cocks. And I actually like the guy. Hes good at dealing with guys like cousins.

                                      I can see Kentucky losing in the sweet 16.
                                      "This is why my basketball intelligence is unmatched on this site. I'm sure there are better cappers but no one can tell you the strategies of most coaches before the game even starts "
                                      Goat Milk
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                                      • hoopster42
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                                        • 02-12-08
                                        • 6099

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by philswin
                                        I go to most of their games only player they lost of note was Dante Cunningham. Shane Clark started a few games but mostly a bench player averaged 5 points a game. Dwayne Anderson another reserve averaged about 6 a game. Returned the rest of the team including the 2 Coreys and Pena who all played. Add #3 ranked recruiting class. Big East weak????
                                        i did not say the big east is "weak", i said it is "weaker". believe me. when pittsburgh and marquette can lose so much firepower and both still have a winning record in the league and both be in the upper half of the standings, the conference is down. trust me, cbb is my life. the big east is down this yr and you'll see it in the ncaa tourney. just watch.
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                                        • philswin
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 04-18-07
                                          • 1279

                                          #90
                                          Georgetown currently 5th place in Big East - Big East is strong
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                                          • king
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                                            • 01-15-09
                                            • 506

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by philswin
                                            Villanova, Kansas or Kentucky - should be one of those 3 teams


                                            Right on point, but I think Kansas and Kentucky have a better chance. I already made a early bet months ago for those 3 teams because the odds at those times were better. John Wall will be the #1 draft pick if he's leaving after 1 year, if he does stay which he wont he will still be #1 for his 2nd, 3rd and 4th year.
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                                            • hoopster42
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                                              • 02-12-08
                                              • 6099

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by philswin
                                              Georgetown currently 5th place in Big East - Big East is strong
                                              they went 16-15 overall and 7-11 in big east last yr, did not even make the ncaa tourney, only brought back 3 starters, but this is a barometer for how strong the big east is?



                                              whatever you'd like to believe, Sir
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                                              • hoopster42
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                                                • 02-12-08
                                                • 6099

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by king
                                                Right on point, but I think Kansas and Kentucky have a better chance. I already made a early bet months ago for those 3 teams because the odds at those times were better. John Wall will be the #1 draft pick if he's leaving after 1 year, if he does stay which he wont he will still be #1 for his 2nd, 3rd and 4th year.
                                                hahahaha, kansas kentucky nova, the top 3 teams in the country, what a major limb to pick one of them! hahahaha
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                                                • hoopster42
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                                                  • 02-12-08
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                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by UNCGQ
                                                  I still think that there are prob a dozen teams this year that could win it all.
                                                  more like 7 or 8, to be honest
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                                                  • BettingWizard
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 11-28-09
                                                    • 6522

                                                    #95
                                                    wont even make the final four

                                                    when cousins gets in foul trouble, they will miss his offensive rebounding when the team throws up bricks from the outside
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                                                    • rockchalk24
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                                                      • 01-21-10
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                                                      #96
                                                      LOL. A team that has beaten nobody, has young immature players, and can't hit FT's is going to win the tournament? Ok.
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                                                      • PittsburghPlayer
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                                                        • 01-11-10
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                                                        #97
                                                        If by chance they end up playing Syracuse, take `Cuse plus the points. Anyone remember 1996, same two teams Syracuse getting FOURTEEN points for an easy cover. What a LOCK that was.
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                                                        • rm18
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                                                          • 09-20-05
                                                          • 22291

                                                          #98
                                                          they really were getting 14 in the title game unreal? I wish I was old enough to gamble them, that year I called all 8 elite eight teams
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                                                          • whatsgood5
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                                                            • 10-13-09
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                                                            #99
                                                            I def. think they are the frontrunners to win, but would not be surprised if Cuse or someone else did
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                                                            • beerman2619
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                                                              • 12-24-09
                                                              • 7752

                                                              #100
                                                              no way kentucky wins it all.
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                                                              • jnyg
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                                                                • 02-18-10
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                                                                #101
                                                                Sign me up for an examination
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                                                                • tin8shusd
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                                                                  • 01-16-07
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                                                                  #102
                                                                  the reason kentucky won't win it all is the same reason you pick senior-laden teams when filling out your bracket. kentucky is very talented - but you've seen them exposed when they get out of rupp arena. every game in the tourney is out of rupp arena = no championship. this is why i think kansas and syracuse are the marquee favorites.
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                                                                  • PittsburghPlayer
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                                                                    • 01-11-10
                                                                    • 6760

                                                                    #103
                                                                    RM18, yes, 14 points. When I typed that a little while ago it reminded me...there is such thing as a lock. A Jimmy Boeheim team getting 14 points in a title game... No brainer.
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                                                                    • rm18
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                                                                      • 09-20-05
                                                                      • 22291

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Kentucky probably had like 10 NBA players on that team, but the way John Wallace was playing knew it would be a close game.
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                                                                      • philswin
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                                                                        • 04-18-07
                                                                        • 1279

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by hoopster42
                                                                        they went 16-15 overall and 7-11 in big east last yr, did not even make the ncaa tourney, only brought back 3 starters, but this is a barometer for how strong the big east is?



                                                                        whatever you'd like to believe, Sir
                                                                        So the best conference in the country is??????? Didnt Gtown beat Duke. 4 of the top 10 teams in the country. Big East is weaker than what the Western conference of the NBA?
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