Denver +3 vs. UNI and Georgetown -2.5 vs. Kansas

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  • No coincidences
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-18-10
    • 76300

    #1
    Denver +3 vs. UNI and Georgetown -2.5 vs. Kansas
    Two lines that speak for themselves, or just KenPom bullshit?
  • No coincidences
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-18-10
    • 76300

    #2
    Also BYU -3.5 vs. Utah?

    Anyone ever notice there's always fishy shit going on with BYU lines?
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    • jtoler
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      • 12-17-13
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      #3
      KP is not saying much differently how do they speak for themselves.
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      • leetreaper
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        • 10-23-10
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        #4
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        • A123
          SBR High Roller
          • 01-24-14
          • 229

          #5
          Utah
          UNI
          Gtown
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          • No coincidences
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-18-10
            • 76300

            #6
            Originally posted by jtoler
            KP is not saying much differently how do they speak for themselves.
            That's my point. KenPom never "says much differently." That's because Vegas blindly copies his projections. Oddsmakers put no time or effort into college basketball lines. They just copy his homework.

            In other sports, you tend to be able to read what the books are thinking on certain lines. In college basketball you can't because it's all just parroted KenPom numbers.
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            • jtoler
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              • 12-17-13
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              #7
              Originally posted by No coincidences
              That's my point. KenPom never "says much differently." That's because Vegas blindly copies his projections. Oddsmakers put no time or effort into college basketball lines. They just copy his homework.

              In other sports, you tend to be able to read what the books are thinking on certain lines. In college basketball you can't because it's all just parroted KenPom numbers.
              Quite a few people come to the same conclusion as KP pretty much, books dont need his numbers trust me, had this been 25 years ago when the books were in the dark then it would be different but then the computer guys showed up. KP just shows the information thats the only difference.
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              • Prodigykid
                SBR Rookie
                • 11-30-14
                • 6

                #8
                Kenpoms numbers eliminate outliers like when ohio st puts up 100 against a no name school he doesnt use that data he counts it as preseason data and thats why his numbers are a little different then the books, especially the first two weeks of the season but with every game the stats are all converging to the same point thats why lines are getting sharper and pretty much on point IMO but numbers r numbers there is no replacement to anticipating the pace of the game and match ups and in turn beating the numbers, point and case louisville/indiana over yesterday, everyone knew louisville will obliterate them down low and indiana is gona chuck up a ton of 3s leading to a GREAT over opportunity, even though numbers say louisville holds teams to 55 points thats not gona happen against a team starting 3 gaurds vs the best press defense, but also i havent seen louisville shoot that well yet this season...
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                • Prodigykid
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 11-30-14
                  • 6

                  #9
                  But 65.5 for the first half was way too low, but i think line was also low cuz louisville scores 20-25% on turnovers and they were expecting turnovers to be lower cuz louisville wont be pressing them... I dono thats how i interpreted it...
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                  • mlb
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-04-09
                    • 10509

                    #10
                    love all 3 of those myself.
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                    • PorkChop
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 09-18-08
                      • 8193

                      #11
                      Northern Iowa -3 is my fav play of day. Denver isn't hanging with them
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                      • KRIT
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-11-14
                        • 12878

                        #12
                        I like both GTown and BYU. Kansas is completely overrated, as they were last year too. Difference between KU and GTown not that different. BYU a tough place to win at on the road. Utah is a solid team, nothing special. Seeing that BYU always buries me in the worst way, they'll probably find a way to lose.
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                        • PaperTrail07
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 08-29-08
                          • 20423

                          #13
                          well one of use will have shitty night lol....opposite of both lol..
                          Originally posted by No coincidences
                          Two lines that speak for themselves, or just KenPom bullshit?
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                          • marcus365
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 11-19-14
                            • 238

                            #14
                            I dont like either BYU nor G.Town take both under dog moneyline and have yourself a merry little x-mas.
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                            • Ronald S.
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 07-02-13
                              • 344

                              #15
                              Originally posted by PorkChop
                              Northern Iowa -3 is my fav play of day. Denver isn't hanging with them
                              Denver homecourt one of the best in the nation though because of the elevation
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                              • CappinTerp
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 11-26-09
                                • 9650

                                #16
                                Looks good coiner but in some way that Denver games scares me...................................... gl
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                                • KRIT
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-11-14
                                  • 12878

                                  #17
                                  Why did the BYU line drop 40-50c on the ML in a couple minutes? Who is out/in? Assuming this is injury.
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                                  • 2daBank
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-26-09
                                    • 88966

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Ronald S.
                                    Denver homecourt one of the best in the nation though because of the elevation
                                    i never bet against them at home. pretty tempting to play them as dogs. pissed i didnt take it at +4 tho. hit couple other early lines but thought maybe i could get another point or 2 out of this 1 due to uni looking so strong early on.. it def denver or nothing..
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                                    • KRIT
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 01-11-14
                                      • 12878

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by KRIT
                                      Why did the BYU line drop 40-50c on the ML in a couple minutes? Who is out/in? Assuming this is injury.
                                      Did someone on BYU commit pre-marital sex or drink coffee? Brandon Davis pt2?
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                                      • 2daBank
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-26-09
                                        • 88966

                                        #20
                                        i would think ku is gonna struggle with hoyas size.
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                                        • Ronald S.
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 07-02-13
                                          • 344

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by 2daBank
                                          i never bet against them at home. pretty tempting to play them as dogs. pissed i didnt take it at +4 tho. hit couple other early lines but thought maybe i could get another point or 2 out of this 1 due to uni looking so strong early on.. it def denver or nothing..
                                          Yeah I was looking to take them too but seen that +4 is gone. Might go with a 1st half play if line stays where it is though gonna wait to see if it gets back to 4 by tip off
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                                          • KRIT
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 01-11-14
                                            • 12878

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by 2daBank
                                            i would think ku is gonna struggle with hoyas size.
                                            Josh Smith a big boy.
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                                            • 2daBank
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 01-26-09
                                              • 88966

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by KRIT
                                              Josh Smith a big boy.
                                              that a understatement! dude a freaking truck. lol...besides him hoyas have length all over the front line, not sure ku can handle when they themselves down a big body in this one..
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                                              • KRIT
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                                                • 01-11-14
                                                • 12878

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                that a understatement! dude a freaking truck. lol...besides him hoyas have length all over the front line, not sure ku can handle when they themselves down a big body in this one..
                                                He's massive, definitely could shed some lbs. If he ever got into shape he could probably make a good NBA prospect. I remember when he first went to UCLA he was considered a one and done lottery pick.
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                                                • KRIT
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 01-11-14
                                                  • 12878

                                                  #25
                                                  Too bad he is so out of shape he can't play more than 3 minutes in a row. He had to sub out at 17:30 and was huffing and puffing from 2 and a half minutes of game speed.
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                                                  • wildemu
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 07-06-07
                                                    • 367

                                                    #26
                                                    hoyas are pissing me off tonight. Many opportunities to get the lead and they don't cash in. Stinks of a loss.
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                                                    • wildemu
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 07-06-07
                                                      • 367

                                                      #27
                                                      that kid greene is bombing everything in fml
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                                                      • 2daBank
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 01-26-09
                                                        • 88966

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by KRIT
                                                        Too bad he is so out of shape he can't play more than 3 minutes in a row. He had to sub out at 17:30 and was huffing and puffing from 2 and a half minutes of game speed.
                                                        dude a fukkin house. i dont care wtf kinda athlete you are it aint easy caring around that much baggage
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                                                        • No coincidences
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 01-18-10
                                                          • 76300

                                                          #29
                                                          Well, we got our answer on KU/Georgetown.



                                                          More KenPom fail. Public must love this shit.
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                                                          • 2daBank
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 01-26-09
                                                            • 88966

                                                            #30
                                                            kenpom had the gm as a straight coinflip.. stop hating on him..
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                                                            • No coincidences
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-18-10
                                                              • 76300

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                              kenpom had the gm as a straight coinflip.. stop hating on him..
                                                              Again, not hating on him -- hating on Vegas for taking the short cut with the line and handing out more public money on an unranked favorite against the No. 10 team in the country.
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                                                              • 2daBank
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 01-26-09
                                                                • 88966

                                                                #32
                                                                gonna really piss you off what going on in den, lol.. glad i passed on those. well for the most part, i did include them in a no chance parlay..
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                                                                • No coincidences
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 01-18-10
                                                                  • 76300

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                                  gonna really piss you off what going on in den, lol.. glad i passed on those. well for the most part, i did include them in a no chance parlay..
                                                                  And BYU....

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                                                                  • thetrinity
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 01-25-11
                                                                    • 22432

                                                                    #34
                                                                    denver also off to a great start
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                                                                    • PaperTrail07
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 08-29-08
                                                                      • 20423

                                                                      #35
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