ok , if vegas wanted to trap people and sway them to bet one certain way more then they are vunerable to lose money and they DON NOT WANT THAT AT ALL ! they set lines just to even out the action... every 1,000 dollars bet vegas makes 100 dollar on that and thats all they care about... for instance in the super bowl n.e. - 2 1/2 vegas wants 1,000,000,000 bet on the giants and 1,000,000,000 bet on the pats so they pocket the gaurenteed 100,000 if they make trap lines and try to get bets one way they vegas mine as well close down there sports books and go gamble themselves ! this is why there are not " trap lines" hopefully this solves this million dollar question
Trap lines do not exsist.... Write up on why inside !!!!!
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theone78SBR Sharp
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#1Trap lines do not exsist.... Write up on why inside !!!!!Tags: None -
LeagueCapperSBR High Roller
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#2Books wanting even action is the biggest myth in this industry. They dont care about even action or the measly pennies they earn on the juice. Trust meComment -
gilbert91016SBR MVP
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#3Impossible to get even action on both sides I would thinkComment -
theone78SBR Sharp
- 07-13-10
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#4if they gamble they thye would lose like everyone else... books that get big action on games ofcourse they want even action you dont know what your talking about.Comment -
theone78SBR Sharp
- 07-13-10
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#5ofcourse its not easy to get even action on games, but they set lines trying to make public go both ways , thats there intention !Comment -
YouHave2outsSBR MVP
- 07-02-11
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#6i think you are incorrect. i believe vegas is gambling on almost every nba game tonight and will likely clean once again. if their intention was to get even money on both sides many of the lines would have already moved multiple points.Comment -
theone78SBR Sharp
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#7ofcourse they are certainly ga,bling cause its mostly not even betting , but thats what keeps there head above water that 10 % trust me ok. do you know any gamblers that picked 60 % in a 20 year span capping games every night ???????? if you do i wanna meet this guy cause thats what its gonna take to beat thebooks if you bet 100 bucks on every game for 20 years you need to wi 60 % of your games to make money. and its not easy to win 60 percent in 20 years . and its almost impossible to win 70 %Comment -
illAdelphSBR Sharp
- 12-30-11
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#9You are 100% incorrect. I will look for an article I read which contains an interview with a former Oddsmaker.
Getting even action is next to impossible and not something that books even strive for.
Trap lines do exist.Comment -
YouHave2outsSBR MVP
- 07-02-11
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#10ofcourse they are certainly ga,bling cause its mostly not even betting , but thats what keeps there head above water that 10 % trust me ok. do you know any gamblers that picked 60 % in a 20 year span capping games every night ???????? if you do i wanna meet this guy cause thats what its gonna take to beat thebooks if you bet 100 bucks on every game for 20 years you need to wi 60 % of your games to make money. and its not easy to win 60 percent in 20 years . and its almost impossible to win 70 %Comment -
LeagueCapperSBR High Roller
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#11Theone you have no idea what your talking about so please keep quiet. Books get millions of dollars on some games you really think the people in the casinos aren't as greedy as you and me? You really think they can be happy with collecting the pennies they earn on the Juice even though they have way more knowledge then us on which team has a better chance of covering? People that say traps dont exist have no idea how this business worksComment -
illAdelphSBR Sharp
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#13This is one article that I found. Ill keep searching for the other.
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theone78SBR Sharp
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#14ok , since you think you know so much . now tell me how they set the lines bigshot ? when there are 98 college basket ball games on a saturday afternoon do you really think they have a few guys sitting in a room makeing halftime lines ? even if there was they wouldnt have enough time to watch all the games and keep track of injuries ? so how od they set 2nd half lines when there are 50 games going ??????? come on mr. know it all what are you gonna say next vegas has a guy watching every game lolComment -
LeagueCapperSBR High Roller
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#15"That’s the way the line-setters saw it, but not the betting public. By game time, the spread had gone down to 5.5 points. Kornegay dispelled a myth about the goal of line-setters, which we all always have been told is to draw equal money on both teams. By doing so, the house would always profit because for the one placing the wager, winning $100 requires betting $110.
“Our goal is to win more than we lose,” Kornegay said. “That’s what we try to do. It’s rare that you have a game that you have equal action on both sides. Is that what the line’s supposed to do? Yeah. It rarely happens. I would say one out of 10 games we look at and say ‘It doesn’t matter who wins, we’re going to win (because there is roughly equal money on both sides"
1 out of 10 games books look at the game and say they are happy with the juice winnings. 1 out of 10 and you think traps dont exist and books just want the juiceComment -
LeagueCapperSBR High Roller
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#16your retarded, yes vegas has hundreds of linesmakers for every sport this is a multi billion dollar industry. Experts on every team that watch every single game of their team and help set lines. Get out of here know it allComment -
ToPHeRSBR MVP
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BernardMadoffSBR Hall of Famer
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#18Don't worry TS you're right, don't listen to conspiracy minded posters who say otherwise, the line IS set in HOPES of theoretically drawing balanced money on both sides, yet its next to impossible to get exactly balanced money on both sides.Comment -
YouHave2outsSBR MVP
- 07-02-11
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#19it is your opinion that bulls -3.5 was set to get equal money on both sides?Comment -
theone78SBR Sharp
- 07-13-10
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#20so you think there is a guy watching valparaso playing brown to see what to set the line at lol ya ok buddy...Comment -
MoneyOnBballSBR Hustler
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#23
Umm...I don't know if you are serious or what you are trying to say here, but the answer is YES. An emphatic YES too. There are probably MULTIPLE vegas people watching Valpo vs Brown actually.
There are billions of dollars at stake here. Why wouldn't they shelve out some money to hire people for each team, each game, each division, each conference, etc?Comment -
YouHave2outsSBR MVP
- 07-02-11
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#25i think they think it is an accurate line and in fact the line should possibly be even lower. i think they would not have minded if the action was split, but they had to know the public would hammer the bulls. i think they are willing to take this action and take their chances on the knicks. i have absolutely no proof of any of this, just makes sense to meComment -
MoneyOnBballSBR Hustler
- 01-30-12
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#26I'm siding with illAdelphia here.
The article was good and i think that stuff really goes on, except its hard to believe that that vegas odds maker guy says they just completely ignore the college rankings made by AP journalists and media members.
So, these media members have absolutely no credibility? But some underground vegas odds makers think they themselves know everything? The vegas odds makers are human too...I don't see what makes them so special in evaluating sports. And if they were that great at evaluating talent, wouldn't they try to be GM's for real teams or something?Comment -
YouHave2outsSBR MVP
- 07-02-11
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#27I'm siding with illAdelphia here, except in that article its hard to believe that that guy just completely ignores college rankings by AP journalists and media members. So, these media members have absolutely no credibility? But some underground vegas odds makers think they themselves know everything? The vegas odds makers are human too...I don't see what makes them so special in evaluating sports. And if they were that great at evaluating talent, wouldn't they try to be GM's for real teams or something?
like that article said, the only bets they are really trying to split are the sharp onesComment -
BernardMadoffSBR Hall of Famer
- 12-12-09
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#28i think they think it is an accurate line and in fact the line should possibly be even lower. i think they would not have minded if the action was split, but they had to know the public would hammer the bulls. i think they are willing to take this action and take their chances on the knicks. i have absolutely no proof of any of this, just makes sense to meComment -
YouHave2outsSBR MVP
- 07-02-11
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#29it does not defeat the purpose of bookmaking at all. they have more knowledge than anyone. why would i not take +110 on a coin flip for the rest of my life if i had virtually unlimited money? they're willing to take their edges, just my opinion. you don't realize how greedy these guys are, as well as the fact that article pointed out how hard it is to get even money on both sides. it cited 1/10 games that vegas does not care at all who wins because they will win on the game regardless.Comment -
illAdelphSBR Sharp
- 12-30-11
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#30i think they think it is an accurate line and in fact the line should possibly be even lower. i think they would not have minded if the action was split, but they had to know the public would hammer the bulls. i think they are willing to take this action and take their chances on the knicks. i have absolutely no proof of any of this, just makes sense to me
Its a baiting technique. Sometimes the fish will take the bait and swim away happily. But in the long run, more fish than not will get hooked. And die.Comment -
Speedy88SBR Posting Legend
- 03-19-11
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#31Lol this post is so far from being correct. I'm not even going to try to argue this with you, there are already plenty of people making my argument.Comment -
PR9SBR MVP
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jabro21SBR Hustler
- 12-29-11
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#33interesting to hear different sides of the argument, or different voices.Comment -
BernardMadoffSBR Hall of Famer
- 12-12-09
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#34it does not defeat the purpose of bookmaking at all. they have more knowledge than anyone. why would i not take +110 on a coin flip for the rest of my life if i had virtually unlimited money? they're willing to take their edges, just my opinion. you don't realize how greedy these guys are, as well as the fact that article pointed out how hard it is to get even money on both sides. it cited 1/10 games that vegas does not care at all who wins because they will win on the game regardless.Comment -
YouHave2outsSBR MVP
- 07-02-11
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#35That's a matter of semantics, people think equal to mean equal and its a misnomer in this business, if a game has a decent enough handle then equal/balanced to them can be interpreted as being many thousands off of actually being equal to the exact dollar. Again you're assuming they know the results, no game can be said to be a coin flip before it actually happens.Comment
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