John Morrison 2010 NBA

[Wallco99]

Losing streaks on the ML are not relevant. Currently, Toronto is on a 2 loss streak ATS. Their worst losing streak ATS this season, so far, is 3 games.

Actually they are on a three game losing streak (both ATS and S/U) and they will also quailify for a Chase 110 play on 1/31/11. I like this game. Two systems overlap JM and Chase 110 both are on Toronto at same time. Feel good about this one. And you are correct, they haven't lost more than 3 in a row ATS this season.

[Kev the Brit]

Hi Wallco, this is where this thread will get confusing, due to various simultaneous discussions about different systems. I repied to Newbie's post #4121 in which he was referring to Toronto's upcoming B bet in the JM system.

Kev

[jphil]

TPS

tps play @ 6 (est) = CLEVELAND. (if anyone playin)

[jphil]

SBP

SBP:

Sunday's late NBA pick

New York Knicks -6.5* (7:30)

[Wallco99]

Hi Wallco, this is where this thread will get confusing, due to various simultaneous discussions about different systems. I repied to Newbie's post #4121 in which he was referring to Toronto's upcoming B bet in the JM system.

Kev

I am aware of that, just wanted to make sure you knew they lost three straight ATS. Thanks. No confusion.

[Stanley77]

I don't understand. If a spread ends on a push, then it doesn't count as a loss? So if you lose A B and C and then D pushes it doesn't count as a loss; even when it loses their next game? To me if you lose A B and C and D pushes then E loses that should count as a loss!

Pushing = series doesn't exist sounds like a JM BS filter.

If a point spread ends in a push, you stop and take your losses.

As far as the Milwaukee Bucks series last season, they were on a 4-game ATS winning streak between 2/19/2010-2/24/2010 and then pushed on 2/25/2010. Then they were on a 7-game ATS winning streak after that between 2/27/2010-3/12/2010. So that's when you begin betting against them on a 4-game progression. They lost ATS on 3/14/2010. So you would've won the A bet if you betted against them.

[J.M. Disciple]

If a point spread ends in a push, you stop and take your losses.

As far as the Milwaukee Bucks series last season, they were on a 4-game ATS winning streak between 2/19/2010-2/24/2010 and then pushed on 2/25/2010. Then they were on a 7-game ATS winning streak after that between 2/27/2010-3/12/2010. So that's when you begin betting against them on a 4-game progression. They lost ATS on 3/14/2010. So you would've won the A bet if you betted against them.

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03/14/10 covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team404155.html W covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2009-2010/boxscore781254.html Regular Season L -9.5 U 203 03/12/10 covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team404031.html W covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2009-2010/boxscore781244.html Regular Season W -1 U 197 03/09/10 covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team404169.html W covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2009-2010/boxscore781221.html Regular Season P -2 U 188.5 03/06/10 covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team404213.html W covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2009-2010/boxscore781202.html Regular Season W -3.5 U 191.5 03/05/10 @ covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team404067.html W covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2009-2010/boxscore781189.html Regular Season W -4 U 192.5 03/03/10 covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team404067.html W covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2009-2010/boxscore781175.html Regular Season W -10 U 193.5 02/28/10 @ covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team404085.html L covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2009-2010/boxscore781151.html (OT) Regular Season W 8.5 O 189.5 02/27/10 @ covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team404171.html W covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2009-2010/boxscore781143.html Regular Season W 2 U 181 02/25/10 @ covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team404155.html W covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2009-2010/boxscore781127.html Regular Season W -1.5 O 202.5 02/24/10 covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team404101.html W covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2009-2010/boxscore781120.html Regular Season W -6 O 194 02/22/10 @ covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team404288.html W covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2009-2010/boxscore781104.html Regular Season W 1.5 U 208 02/20/10 covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team664421.html W covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2009-2010/boxscore781092.html Regular Season W -3 U 187.5 02/19/10 @ covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/teams/team404153.html W covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/nba/results/2009-2010/boxscore781078.html Regular Season W -1

This is for the Milwaukee 7ATS series i was talking about. They won 7 striaght ATS so you are suppose to bet against them. Its a 4 game chase not a 6 game chase. There for it would be a series loss!!!!!!! You can't say they lost ATS on the 14th and count the series as a win cause that would be a 6 game chase.

between 3/3 and 3/12 they have 4 wins and a push and as you said a push = a loss. It would be a 5 game chase if you continued to the 14th.

[J.M. Disciple]

tps play @ 6 (est) = CLEVELAND. (if anyone playin)

ABC??

Looks like an A to me since they covered vs boston if you bought 3pts.

[J.M. Disciple]

Good Job on posting the picks everyone today. Excellent contribution by everyone!!!!!!!

I will be following chase110 only betting to win 1/2 a unit though since its ML. I see GSW at -4.5 so money is -190 @ betus.

Chase 110 GSW ML to win 1/2 unit
SBP orginal Knicks -6.5 [A] to win 1 unit
TPS: cleveland +21.5 [A] ... Looks almost too temping to pass up *this is after buying 3pts.

[J.M. Disciple]

ya im going to pass of the cleveland bet and hope it goes to chase110 for their next game.

[Wallco99]

If a point spread ends in a push, you stop and take your losses.

As far as the Milwaukee Bucks series last season, they were on a 4-game ATS winning streak between 2/19/2010-2/24/2010 and then pushed on 2/25/2010. Then they were on a 7-game ATS winning streak after that between 2/27/2010-3/12/2010. So that's when you begin betting against them on a 4-game progression. They lost ATS on 3/14/2010. So you would've won the A bet if you betted against them.

Stop complicating it so much. Trust me, "Three is Key"!

[Stanley77]

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[jphil]

ABC??

Looks like an A to me since they covered vs boston if you bought 3pts.

not sure. don't follow the letters on sbp or tps as i randomly pick & choose, & flat bet 'em as i see fit. JM is about all that i letter follow.

seems like you're gonna be playin a lot of those teams on a regular basis anyway, whenever they pop up. at least w/ tps dogs. and maybe i'll attempt some c/d bets w/ the 110 chase.

[jphil]

ya im going to pass of the cleveland bet and hope it goes to chase110 for their next game.

i'm passing also. just never know sometimes when the spreads are that high. and when they are that high, i'll pass on the pts. anyway. love to see the stats on that

[jphil]

nyk line win % (-6.5/with the .5 pt.) seems to be higher than most according to sbp. flip of the coin as usual.

[Wallco99]

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[J.M. Disciple]

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[J.M. Disciple]

No, I won the Utah Jazz series last night on "D" bet (actually it was a "C" for me, because I missed the (A) bet) if you really want to know. I'm with JMD, your data sucks, I would look to a new place for info. if your data told you I lost Utah bet. Or as I initially thought, you really don't understand what I am doing. And before you argue with me, a push is a no play (skipped game) in my system. If you don't like it, simply don't play it. But don't continue to give me reasons why it won't work, when my backtest says it will, with the exception of one season. But including that one, still up for the five year span.

I think your getting a little out of line wallco. Lets not turn this into a pissing contest. I understand what Stanely is saying. If 2/25 is a push then the Wins before that ATS doesn't count. You start counting the next seven wins ats after the push and then you would end up winning your "A" bet. Just a miss understand of the two sites.

[J.M. Disciple]

Cavs covered with out buying 3pts.

@ Jphil anything above +15 is usually a pretty high win %. I just neglected to bet on it cause I haven't been following TPS much. I picked a bad time to start following him in the past by flat betting his picks and went on a terrible run so that discouraged me from betting any more of his picks. If I were following his system though getting +21.5 after buying 3pts would be a great bet! Even though Cavs sucks the spread itself has a really high win %.

I do not recall the percentage that it wins, but i know wilba provided some stats on this a long time ago. Wilba is the guru of all stats!

Thanks Wilba!

[Wallco99]

I am posting the official Chase 110 Rules. Because of all the posting of the seven game loss chase system, or whatever it is called, I am getting flooded with PM's with questions of confusion. My initial post on this topic wasn't real clear, and the conflicting info with the seven game sysytem is confusing a lot of people. The system is simple, it has been working, currently 50-0 this year, and it will be detailed in the next post. This is the only time I will post this. I know we said we wouldn't do it any more, but technically, I haven't posted complete system in one post yet. Thanks to all.

[Wallco99]

I think your getting a little out of line wallco. Lets not turn this into a pissing contest. I understand what Stanely is saying. If 2/25 is a push then the Wins before that ATS doesn't count. You start counting the next seven wins ats after the push and then you would end up winning your "A" bet. Just a miss understand of the two sites.

Your right, he was all over me last week. I'm sorry.

[Wallco99]

Chase 110 – Official Rules

Find a team that has lost three consecutive games (both S/U and ATS). Play a four game chase on that team to win (A) (B) (C) or (D). If a team is a favorite in any of the games, play the M/L, if the team is a dog in any of the games play the point line (-110). We do not buy points in this system and we do not care if teams were favorites or dogs in the games before the four game chase starts.. The only time we would buy points is if your team is a favorite by 1-3 points, and buying down to -1/2 is cheaper than the M/L. Other than that, we are always playing M/L and (-110). I use covers.com as official play site. If covers.com has the game listed as a win, then the series is over. You may have had a different line then them and lost the game, if this is the case, the decision is yours whether or not to continue, but the game will be deemed a win at that point. ALL PUSHES ARE SEEN AS A NO-PLAY. We will treat those games as if they were never played and just skip them. So if your (B) bet is a push, your next bet will be a (B) bet.

Wallco99

[Wallco99]

I think your getting a little out of line wallco. Lets not turn this into a pissing contest. I understand what Stanely is saying. If 2/25 is a push then the Wins before that ATS doesn't count. You start counting the next seven wins ats after the push and then you would end up winning your "A" bet. Just a miss understand of the two sites.

How does he have us losing Utah?

[JW Cash]

Nice win tonight on NY Knicks by SBP.......lets hope he gets on a run....

[knugen]

Yeah really nice win, tonight im gonna start follow solaman also 

[Wallco99]

Chase 110
2010-11 System to date: 51-0

(1/30/11) Golden State M/L (A) - Win

(A) 27-24
(B) 15-9
(C) 6-3
(D) 3-0

Next game:
(1/31/11) Toronto @Indiana (A) ** Also a JM (B) bet. **

[Newbie1825]

Does anyone have the rules for the TPS system. That is the only one I need to be able to schedule my calander ahead of time

[jphil]

Cavs covered with out buying 3pts.

@ Jphil anything above +15 is usually a pretty high win %. I just neglected to bet on it cause I haven't been following TPS much. I picked a bad time to start following him in the past by flat betting his picks and went on a terrible run so that discouraged me from betting any more of his picks. If I were following his system though getting +21.5 after buying 3pts would be a great bet! Even though Cavs sucks the spread itself has a really high win %.

I do not recall the percentage that it wins, but i know wilba provided some stats on this a long time ago. Wilba is the guru of all stats!

Thanks Wilba!

JMD, i'm just playin dogs (+9 to +13), & maybe -7 favs.(all no pts.), for now. A little tps & sbp. combo. I've decided to call it the "jphil tps & sbp. combo."

[jcygts6]

good luck tomarrow guys

[Kev the Brit]

Does anyone have the rules for the TPS system. That is the only one I need to be able to schedule my calander ahead of time

Enter "triple play system" in the search box above. You will get the list of discussions including these words. Look down the list for cmdryds thread, called, "Triple play system" and go to it. Then go to post #11. There you will find the pdf.

[J.M. Disciple]

IDK how he has the chase110 losing UTah Wallco99. I think he says its a loss because he figured it was a 3 game chase and not a 4 game chase.

Also for everyone else i finally got the results of previous years for SBP, however, I am unable to open the file Rich sent me. I am using the newest windows, so i am not sure what the problem is. Whenever i click on the link and download the file it opens im some giperish language. I can't get it to open as a spread sheet.


Straight Bets :

NBA Basketball
2006-07 Season: 140 Win - 75 Loss 65.12%
2007-08 Season: 150 Win - 79 Loss 65.50%
2008-09 Season: 138 Win - 71 Loss 66.03%
2009-10 Season: 124 Win - 61 Loss 67.03%

Systems A,B & C :

NBA Basketball
2006-07 Season: 78 Win – 6 Loss
2007-08 Season: 71 Win – 3 Loss
2008-09 Season: 80 Win – 5 Loss
2009-10 Season: 81 Win – 2 Loss


Details 2009-2010 Season are here ==> http://www.mediafire.com/file/7nutnp71t5pya8l/Rich.rar

Have a good day

SO there are the results for previous years for the orginal system. If someone can please open the link for me and attach it to one of these post Ill do the math behind it.

Thank You

[DustyDiamond]

Post #3862 and #3891. Note: in post #3862, it should read M/L on favorites, and (-110) on dogs. It says (-110) on all, but that was a misprint, and it won't let me edit.

Thank you!!!

[Wallco99]

Chase 110 - Plays for 1/31/11
2010-11 System to date: 51-0

Toronto+9 @Indiana (A)

[BetaB]

IDK how he has the chase110 losing UTah Wallco99. I think he says its a loss because he figured it was a 3 game chase and not a 4 game chase.

Also for everyone else i finally got the results of previous years for SBP, however, I am unable to open the file Rich sent me. I am using the newest windows, so i am not sure what the problem is. Whenever i click on the link and download the file it opens im some giperish language. I can't get it to open as a spread sheet.


Straight Bets :

NBA Basketball
2006-07 Season: 140 Win - 75 Loss 65.12%
2007-08 Season: 150 Win - 79 Loss 65.50%
2008-09 Season: 138 Win - 71 Loss 66.03%
2009-10 Season: 124 Win - 61 Loss 67.03%

Systems A,B & C :

NBA Basketball
2006-07 Season: 78 Win – 6 Loss
2007-08 Season: 71 Win – 3 Loss
2008-09 Season: 80 Win – 5 Loss
2009-10 Season: 81 Win – 2 Loss


Details 2009-2010 Season are here ==> http://www.mediafire.com/file/7nutnp71t5pya8l/Rich.rar

Have a good day

SO there are the results for previous years for the orginal system. If someone can please open the link for me and attach it to one of these post Ill do the math behind it.

Thank You

whose record is this SBP?

[BetaB]

here is what on Rich file

01/01

Sacramento Kings +12* W
New York Knicks +11.5 W

02/01

Indiana Pacers -3.5* W

03/01

Charlotte Bobcats +12* W

04/01

Los Angeles Clippers -3.5* W

05/01

Indiana Pacers +12* W

06/01

Washington Wizards +13.5* L

08/01

Los Angeles Lakers -3.5* L

10/01

Boston Celtics -1* W

12/01

Orlando Magic -3.5* W

13/01

Washington Wizards +11.5* L
Phoenix Suns -3.5 L

17/01

Dallas Mavericks -1* L

20/01

New Jersey Nets +13* L
Indiana Pacers +12 W
Oklahoma City Thunder -6.5 L

22/01

Atlanta Hawks -6.5* W
Golden St. Warriors -6.5* W

23/01

Golden St. Warriors +12* W
Miami Heat -6.5 W
New Orleans Hornets +12 W

25/01

Los Angeles Clippers +12* W
Houston Rockets -1 L
Utah Jazz -6.5 W

29/01

Atlanta Hawks -3.5* W

30/01

Charlotte Bobcats -1* W

01/02

Sacramento Kings +12* W
Utah Jazz -3.5 W
New Orleans Hornets -1 L

02/02

Toronto Raptors -1* L
Houston Rockets -6.5 W

03/02

Golden St. Warriors +12* W
Denver Nuggets -6.5 L
San Antonio Spurs -3.5 L

05/02

New Jersey Nets +13* W
Washington Wizards +13 W

06/02

New York Knicks +13* W
Detroit Pistons -6.5 W
Oklahoma City Thunder -3.5* W

09/02

Atlanta Hawks -1* W
Philadelphia 76ers -6.5 W

10/02

Atlanta Hawks -6.5* L

16/02

New Jersey Nets +11.5* W
Phoenix Suns -1 W
Portland Trail Blazers -6.5* W

17/02

Detroit Pistons +11.5* L
Toronto Raptors -6.5 L
Miami Heat -6.5 L
Utah Jazz -3.5 W
Dallas Mavericks -3.5 W

19/02

Chicago Bulls -1* W
New Orleans Hornets -3.5 W
Phoenix Suns -3.5 W

20/02

Sacramento Kings -1* L

21/02

Portland Trailblazers -1* L

23/02

New Orleans Hornets +12* W
Philadelphia 76ers -1* W

24/02

Minnesota T'Wolves +12* W
Memphis Grizzlies -1 W
Orlando Magic -3.5 W
Los Angeles Clippers -3.5* W

25/02

Milwaukee Bucks -1* W

26/02

Utah Jazz -6.5* L

27/02

Portland Trailblazers -3.5* W
Golden St. Warriors -3.5 W

28/02

Washington Wizards -1* W
Sacramento Kings -3.5* W

01/03

New York Knicks +11.5* L
Orlando Magic -3.5 W
Portland Trail Blazers -1 W

02/03

Indiana Pacers +12* L

03/03

New York Knicks -3.5* W

05/03

Golden St. Warriors +13.5* W
Milwaukee Bucks -3.5 W
Detroit Pistons +12 W

06/03

Indiana Pacers +13.5* W

07/03

Washington Wizards +12* W

09/03

Houston Rockets -3.5* W
Indiana Pacers -1 W
Toronto Raptors +12* W

10/03

New Jersey Nets +11.5* W
Sacramento Kings -1 W

11/03

Atlanta Hawks -6.5* L

12/03

New Jersey Nets +11.5* W
San Antonio Spurs -6.5 W
Milwaukee Bucks -1 W

13/03

Los Angeles Clippers +13* L
Washington Wizards +12 L
Detroit Pistons +12 L

16/03

Minnesota Timberwolves +13* L

17/03

Golden St. Warriors -3.5* W
Orlando Magic -6.5 W

19/03

Washington Wizards +13* W
Golden St. Warriors +12 L

20/03

Dallas Mavericks -3.5* L

21/03

Detroit Pistons +12* L
Washington Wizards +13* W

23/03

Detroit Pistons -3.5* L

24/03

Memphis Grizzlies -1* L

26/03

Sacramento Kings +12* W

27/03

Dallas Mavericks -3.5* W

28/03

Oklahoma City Thunder -3.5* L

29/03

New York Knicks +12* W

30/03

Los Angeles Clippers +11.5* L

31/03

Atlanta Hawks -1* W
Golden St. Warriors +13.5* L
Phoenix Suns -6.5 W
Miami Heat -6.5 W
Houston Rockets +11.5 L
New York Knicks +11.5 L

03/04

Chicago Bulls -3.5* W

04/04

Boston Celtics -1* W
Memphis Grizzlies +12* L

06/04

San Antonio Spurs -6.5* W

07/04

Philadelphia 76ers +12* W
Minnesota T'Wolves -1 L
Charlotte Bobcats -1 P
Utah Jazz -3.5 L

09/04

New York Knicks +12* L
Washington Wizards +12 W
Oklahoma City Thunder -3.5 W


------- PLAYOFFS -------------


17/04

Chicago Bulls +11.5* L
Boston Celtics -3.5* W

18/04

Dallas Mavericks -3.5* W

20/04

Boston Celtics -1* W

22/04

Portland Trailblazers -1* L

23/04

Miami Heat -3.5* L

24/04

Milwaukee Bucks -1* W

26/04

Orlando Magic -3.5* W
Phoenix Suns -6.5 W

28/04

Denver Nuggets -6.5* W

29/04

Portland Trailblazers -1* L

01/05

Cleveland Cavaliers -6.5* W

02/05

Los Angeles Lakers -6.5* L

07/05

Boston Celtics -1* L

09/05

Cleveland Cavaliers -1* L
San Antonio Spurs -3.5* L

18/05

Orlando Magic -6.5* L

24/05

Boston Celtics -6.5* L

10/06

Boston Celtics -3.5* W

17/06

Los Angeles Lakers -6.5* L

01/05

Cleveland Cavaliers -6.5*

There are also file for Nov and Dec 09 but i figured that the above should be enough