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  • Chance Harper
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 07-20-07
    • 788

    #1
    Minus Steve Nash, Phoenix Suns meet Thunder
    Minus Steve Nash, Phoenix Suns meet Thunder

    The last time these two teams met, Oklahoma City snapped a nine-game losing skid against Phoenix. Now the Thunder enters tonight's game on its home floor at Ford Center riding a nine-game winning streak and ready to face a Phoenix squad that will be without Steve Nash. A bad back finally caught up to the Suns' catalyst, and Nash won't even be on the sidelines for this Tuesday night 8 p.m. tip-off.

    Maybe Steve Nash is a little too popular.



    The two-time MVP didn’t get much downtime during the All-Star break. Nash went to Vancouver to participate in the Olympic Games opening ceremonies, then hopped on a plane for Dallas to be one of the four contestants in the Skills Competition – which he won.

    All well and good, but his NBA employers, the Phoenix Suns, are playing four games over the next six days. Nash will only play three of them; he’ll remain behind as the Suns (34-23 SU, 31-26 ATS) travel to Oklahoma City to face the Thunder on Tuesday night.

    Not that Nash should be criticized for not resting up during the All-Star Weekend. He’s an ambassador for the sport and a highly conditioned athlete, mentally as well as physically. But purely from a basketball perspective, the Suns are ripe for the picking without Nash (20.9 points, 13.3 assists per 40 minutes) at the helm. And the Thunder are just the team to do it. They’ve won their last nine games in a row (at 6-3 ATS) to climb a half-game above the Suns into fifth place in the Western Conference.

    I’ve been banging the drum for Oklahoma City this year – not easy for me after what the league did to the Sonics, but that’s that kind of thing I’ll let slide considering the Thunder have the most profitable record in the West at 33-21 SU and ATS. The conditions in OKC are fantastic for handicappers: a rising young team playing in a small market with low expectations after two very bad seasons.

    Too bad it can’t last forever. Eventually, people will recognize Kevin Durant (29.8 points, 7.5 rebounds/40) as the superstar he is. Reaching the playoffs and getting on national television will help Durant’s cause.

    So will his teammates. Other than Durant, the most important player in OKC is point guard Russell Westbrook, who is having a very good sophomore campaign with 18.6 points, 8.7 assists and 5.9 rebounds per 40 minutes. Westbrook has cut down on his turnover rate and is taking smarter shots, although he still isn’t much of a shooter at 41.4 percent from the field.

    Oklahoma City has also gotten positive results from rookie James Harden (17.3 points, 5.7 boards/40) at shooting guard in relief of defensive specialist Thabo Sefolosha. Fitting that it should be Durant, Westbrook and Harden:

    2007: Seattle drafts Durant No. 2 overall
    2008: OKC takes Westbrook at No. 4
    2009: OKC takes Harden at No. 3

    That’s the value of finishing last in the Northwest Division three years in a row. The Suns, meanwhile, have some depth issues in the backcourt after trading away draft picks Nate Robinson, Rajon Rondo and Rudy Fernandez – all hidden gems taken outside of the Top 20 in the first round. Their starting point guard Tuesday night will be sophomore Goran Dragic, who provides Phoenix with 18.6 points and 5.4 assists per 40 minutes and looks much better than he did as a rookie. Leandro Barbosa (wrist) is still out, so that leaves the cupboard bare at point guard.

    The difference between Dragic and Nash can’t be ignored here. Most of Dragic’s minutes have come on the second unit playing alongside the likes of Jared Dudley and Earl Clark, so making a direct statistical comparison is going to be a little messy. Be that as it may, when Dragic is on the floor, the Suns are outscored by 0.3 points per 48 minutes. When Nash is on the floor, Phoenix outscores opponents by 4.8 points per 48 minutes.

    Dragic’s performance on Tuesday figures to be worse as he competes against Westbrook and the rest of OKC’s first unit. But let’s go ahead and estimate that Nash is worth five points. That would have gone a long way toward making up the opening betting odds; the Thunder were seven-point faves at the open with a total of 201½.
  • SEAHAWKHARRY
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 11-29-07
    • 26068

    #2
    Nice writeup
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    • xxxvince
      SBR MVP
      • 12-17-07
      • 2567

      #3
      good stuff playa
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      • Irish Lumberjack
        SBR MVP
        • 12-04-07
        • 2086

        #4
        good stuff
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        • podunk
          SBR MVP
          • 11-12-09
          • 3455

          #5
          thanks
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          • laziie
            SBR High Roller
            • 11-16-09
            • 207

            #6
            hard game to cap
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            • denn333
              SBR MVP
              • 09-16-05
              • 1191

              #7
              Take the suns
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              • traxmub
                SBR Sharp
                • 01-25-10
                • 433

                #8
                minus Nash. I love it. Bet on Thunder!
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                • tmorton
                  Restricted User
                  • 11-15-09
                  • 560

                  #9
                  Thunder are playing very well and will probably be a playoff team if they keep up this kind of play! I like the Thunder tonight! Suns seem to struggle without Nash!
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                  • alittlemoresound
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 12-14-08
                    • 472

                    #10
                    i think this is a 5 point game at most... points win here.... ok covers
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                    • texashighroller
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 11-24-09
                      • 205

                      #11
                      Took the over
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                      • tkim8404
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 01-28-10
                        • 622

                        #12
                        This game is a tough one. I just opted not to bet at all.
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                        • makemerich
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 02-19-10
                          • 392

                          #13
                          i think it will still go over 202.
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                          • xxdjstriderxx
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-25-08
                            • 4740

                            #14
                            over is the play. okc can score at home and the public will be heavy on the under since nash is out.
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                            • TheCommish
                              SBR MVP
                              • 03-23-09
                              • 1013

                              #15
                              Really like OKC in this one. KD gets it done at home.
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                              • lyon804
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 11-02-09
                                • 6526

                                #16
                                Originally posted by xxdjstriderxx
                                over is the play. okc can score at home and the public will be heavy on the under since nash is out.


                                Couldn't disagree more. I agreed with you yesterday on the NYC under, but this is wrong... The game could go over, but the public loves the under. The over looks good to me and everyone else.. Game will most likely stay under.
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                                • jjgold
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388179

                                  #17
                                  Okl City should run them out of the gym tonight, nash is a major part of that team.
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                                  • MrTwiz
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 01-26-10
                                    • 913

                                    #18
                                    How is the public on the under????? It opened at 201 and is up to 204!
                                    God hates cowards
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                                    • lyon804
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 11-02-09
                                      • 6526

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by MrTwiz
                                      How is the public on the under????? It opened at 201 and is up to 204!
                                      It was a mistype.. I meant over. The public will always play an over when Phoenix is involved.
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                                      • cecbo
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 01-10-10
                                        • 646

                                        #20
                                        Under looks like the play...Glad it moved up to 204, but it will be close.
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                                        • jjgold
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388179

                                          #21
                                          Okl City are now title contenders, Durant might be best player in nba the debate has started. We see it Okl City by 17-20 points.
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                                          • blueghost
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-11-09
                                            • 1715

                                            #22
                                            nash out and the line is not moving the right way
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                                            • skater1233
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 02-23-10
                                              • 2

                                              #23
                                              Over Over Over
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                                              • cecbo
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 01-10-10
                                                • 646

                                                #24
                                                The Suns will have to work harder to get their own shots tonight without Nash.
                                                Under 204.5 looks like the play.

                                                Also, with the RLM, I think there might be more $$ on the Thunder but a slightly less popular bet amongst the bettors...
                                                My lean is on the Thunder here at -6.5. I would love it at -5 but I doubt it will get there.
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                                                • zogdog
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 01-29-10
                                                  • 755

                                                  #25
                                                  OKC should crush the Suns with Nash out.
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                                                  • SOUP
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 11-02-09
                                                    • 1325

                                                    #26
                                                    Dragic is no Nash but getting the start he could do some damage. I would have expected the line to be closer to -10 for OKC but yet again thats why Vegas makes the lines. Suns +7
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                                                    • lunchbawks
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 01-31-10
                                                      • 12873

                                                      #27
                                                      I have no clue how this game plays out, sorry im useless here guys!
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                                                      • whatsgood5
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 10-13-09
                                                        • 15359

                                                        #28
                                                        Nice write-up chance, love OKC here, especially without Nash
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                                                        • whatsgood5
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 10-13-09
                                                          • 15359

                                                          #29
                                                          Small under play for me in this one as well
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                                                          • Brocc
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 12-25-09
                                                            • 1660

                                                            #30
                                                            Suns + the pts
                                                            Every square will read that and think Okie is a lock.
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                                                            • Brocc
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 12-25-09
                                                              • 1660

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Brocc
                                                              Suns + the pts
                                                              Every square will read that and think Okie is a lock.
                                                              Lotta squares around here
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