2014/15 NBA Thread

**eddycash** · 04-07-15, 07:22 PM

basically it is too easy to trick noah, a one dimensional player on a one dimensional team (without rose)

**Seto** · 04-08-15, 04:29 AM

Originally posted by freeeze

Nah, actually Noah has great court awareness. That's why he worked so well as a facilitator from the elbows last season, averaged more than 5 assists. He's also been elite defensively, one of the few centers who can leap out and contain guards on the pick and roll and a very solid rim protector. He was 4th in MVP voting last year for a reason.

But this year it's been a different story. Missed some games early in the season and hasn't quite regained his form yet. Arguably his worst season since his rookie year. Hopefully he gets it going soon as he'll be key to a potential Bulls run in the playoffs.

He's played better the second half of the season. The key is Rose obviously which is a question mark. Which is why it might be a better idea to take them game by game even though I might have to take futures on them to win the East at +750 given the odds.

As for the Cavs, I haven't been impressed by them or sold on them all year and I don't think that will change. I'm very stubborn which sometimes works for me and sometimes doesn't. We'll just have to wait and see. I'm not stupid though, I know the East sucks and they could very well win it if the Bulls aren't healthy enough. They could lose to the Hawks if they faced them in the second round but they can't meet them til the ECF and I really feel like the Hawks will choke on the big stage.

**Seto** · 04-08-15, 04:33 AM

Yesterday: 1-2, -1.7x
Total: 163-274-7, +8.09x

**Seto** · 04-08-15, 04:57 AM

Bucks+10.5 -110 (paddy power) (risking 1.65x to win 1.5x)
Bucks ml +475 (paddy power) (risking 0.75x to win 3.56x)

**DOM-Ganador** · 04-08-15, 09:44 AM

WTF is happening with the Bucks line?
Down to 7 from 11s openers??
Can`t see who is out yet.

This seems to happen late in the season, as even the books have a hard time figuring out who might or might not come to play?
Playoffs can`t come soon enough.

**Seto** · 04-08-15, 10:00 AM

Rockets+6.5 -103 (5dimes) (risking 2.06x to win 2x)
Rockets ml +240 (5dimes) (risking 1x to win 2.4x)

Looks like I caught a fairly decent line on Milwaukee. I felt that early thing was way off.

**Seto** · 04-08-15, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by DOM-Ganador

WTF is happening with the Bucks line?
Down to 7 from 11s openers??
Can`t see who is out yet.

This seems to happen late in the season, as even the books have a hard time figuring out who might or might not come to play?
Playoffs can`t come soon enough.

Just a couple books putting out whacky early lines. Nothing to do with players, Pinny opened at 7. I expect everyone to play.

**Seto** · 04-09-15, 11:28 AM

Yesterday: 1-3, -2.31x
Total: 164-277-7, +5.78x

I'll never learn about fading the Spurs when they're streaking in the regular season. Straight flushing money down the toilet and I should know it by now.

**Seto** · 04-10-15, 06:00 PM

Rockets+3.5 -102 (5dimes) (risking 2.53x to win 2.5x)
Rockets ml +150 (paddy power) (risking 1.5x to win 2.25x)

Just couldn't resist

Celtics+7.5 -108 (5dimes) (risking 2.16x to win 2x)
Celtics ml +275 (5dimes) (risking 1x to win 2.75x)

**Seto** · 04-10-15, 09:44 PM

I rarely if ever complain about refs but that last play was an absolute, complete and utter fukking disgrace.

Can't believe these fukking shitheads might win the division in the end. This team makes me want to throw up.

**Seto** · 04-10-15, 09:46 PM

Today: 3-1, +5.75x
Total: 167-278-7, +11.53x

**No coincidences** · 04-11-15, 12:59 AM

Originally posted by Seto

I rarely if ever complain about refs but that last play was an absolute, complete and utter fukking disgrace.

Can't believe these fukking shitheads might win the division in the end. This team makes me want to throw up.

Awful. Just awful.

**bryant81** · 04-11-15, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by Seto

I rarely if ever complain about refs but that last play was an absolute, complete and utter fukking disgrace.

Can't believe these fukking shitheads might win the division in the end. This team makes me want to throw up.

You can't be serious man. Absolutely no chance that's a foul. Check it out:

Timmy's game-saving block against the Rockets [10-April-2015]

http://i.imgur.com/6lWzVye.gifv

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**DOM-Ganador** · 04-11-15, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by bryant81

You can't be serious man. Absolutely no chance that's a foul. Check it out:

http://i.imgur.com/6lWzVye.gifv

Nice camera work Kobster....thing is, beardman gets that call every damn time, so if you had the Rockets ML, you have a right to be upset.

Seto, nice call on the Celtics last night.

**freeeze** · 04-11-15, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by Seto

Today: 3-1, +5.75x
Total: 167-278-7, +11.53x

Great stuff last night, Seto. Nice hit on the Celtics. I see my man Marcus Smart did good for your bet.

Don't know about that last play on the Spurs game. 50/50 call and to me it seemed like a clean block watching it live. In any case, the call could've went both ways but I don't think it was that bad.

You like anything tonight? I see Mostly non-meaningful games and Memphis - Clippers will be an interesting game to watch but I'm not sure there's an angle on this one.

**ChiLLx** · 04-11-15, 12:50 PM

Seto, playoffs right around the corner

**Seto** · 04-11-15, 12:59 PM

The way that game was being called (every time someone breathed on Mills or Ginobili it was a "foul"), you absolutely have to call that. From the angles I saw it looked like a definite foul too. Typical Spurs.

**Seto** · 04-11-15, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by freeeze

Great stuff last night, Seto. Nice hit on the Celtics. I see my man Marcus Smart did good for your bet.

Don't know about that last play on the Spurs game. 50/50 call and to me it seemed like a clean block watching it live. In any case, the call could've went both ways but I don't think it was that bad.

You like anything tonight? I see Mostly non-meaningful games and Memphis - Clippers will be an interesting game to watch but I'm not sure there's an angle on this one.

I like Toronto a bit. I think Miami is done honestly. Just too many injuries. Time for them to head into the summer and get healthy for next year.

Trying to figure out why Memphis is getting 8.5 points. Sure they're on a back to back and Conley is probably not playing, but this seems like a stretch to me. I would've had them +6 or so.

**t-wizzle** · 04-11-15, 04:02 PM

Think I might agree on Toronto. Not really sure though, haven't looked into it. Feels like the right side though for the reasons you mentioned.

**bryant81** · 04-11-15, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by Seto

The way that game was being called (every time someone breathed on Mills or Ginobili it was a "foul"), you absolutely have to call that. From the angles I saw it looked like a definite foul too. Typical Spurs.

I respectfully disagree. NBA officially ruled it a correct non-call:

http://official.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2015/04/L2M-SAS-HOU-4-10-15.pdf

I mean, good call on the spread. That was a great play. Not here to troll or anything, but I don't agree that last play was a foul.

**Seto** · 04-11-15, 04:25 PM

Originally posted by bryant81

I respectfully disagree. NBA officially ruled it a correct non-call:

http://official.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2015/04/L2M-SAS-HOU-4-10-15.pdf

I mean, good call on the spread. That was a great play. Not here to troll or anything, but I don't agree that last play was a foul.

Didn't take your post as trolling at all. Just a difference of opinion I guess. Would be boring if we all always had the same opinion.

I'm not sure if it was a great play, if Harden's 3 with 28 seconds left doesn't get a lucky bounce that play likely loses. I was probably as close to winning the ml as I was to losing the spread. Either way just gotta move on. I can't believe I'm gonna have to sweat my southwest division futures though.

**Seto** · 04-11-15, 04:26 PM

Memphis is now getting 10 points? Do books have the calendar mixed up and think they're playing the Warriors today and the Clippers Monday?

**freeeze** · 04-11-15, 04:52 PM

This is weird. Still, Memphis don't have the perimeter players to break down the Clippets defense and the have been mediocre for a while now. Probably ends up somewhere close to a 8-10 points Clipps win.

**Seto** · 04-11-15, 04:56 PM

Grizzlies+10 -105 (5dimes) (risking 1.58x to win 1.5x)
Grizzlies ml +435 (5dimes) (risking 0.5x to win 2.18x)
Raptors+3.5 -105 (5dimes) (risking 1.05x to win 1x)

Memphis is probably a trap of some kind but I can't resist getting 10 points in this matchup.

**Seto** · 04-11-15, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by freeeze

This is weird. Still, Memphis don't have the perimeter players to break down the Clippets defense and the have been mediocre for a while now. Probably ends up somewhere close to a 8-10 points Clipps win.

Conley typically struggles against the Clippers anyway and despite that Memphis owns them. I guess we'll just have to see if the books got this one right. The Clippers are still big time pretenders in my mind. It's not like those whacky lines that make no sense just because a team is a little banged up never win. The Clippers got 10 points in Dallas about a month ago in a similar kind of situation and ended up winning going away.

**bryant81** · 04-11-15, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by Seto

Didn't take your post as trolling at all. Just a difference of opinion I guess. Would be boring if we all always had the same opinion.

I'm not sure if it was a great play, if Harden's 3 with 28 seconds left doesn't get a lucky bounce that play likely loses. I was probably as close to winning the ml as I was to losing the spread. Either way just gotta move on. I can't believe I'm gonna have to sweat my southwest division futures though.

I hear you. I had Memphis to win the division and I hedged with Houston to win it. Didn't think Spurs would have a good chance

You have a good point on the spread bet. I had Spurs ML and I definitely was fortunate.

**Seto** · 04-11-15, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by bryant81

I hear you. I had Memphis to win the division and I hedged with Houston to win it. Didn't think Spurs would have a good chance

You have a good point on the spread bet. I had Spurs ML and I definitely was fortunate.

I took the Spurs not to win it at about -110 in late December. Can't believe both Memphis and Houston (and Dallas to some extent) blew those leads. Between that and the Bulls blowing a 7 game lead in the Central Division, I've had some really tough ones with futures this year. Obviously can still win but just having to sweat it is annoying. Spurs were still +500 just a week ago or so. Probably shoulda taken the cash and ran but easy to say now.

**freeeze** · 04-11-15, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by Seto

Conley typically struggles against the Clippers anyway and despite that Memphis owns them. I guess we'll just have to see if the books got this one right. The Clippers are still big time pretenders in my mind. It's not like those whacky lines that make no sense just because a team is a little banged up never win. The Clippers got 10 points in Dallas about a month ago in a similar kind of situation and ended up winning going away.

This game confuses the hell out of me. I'm staying away from it. Good luck on your bets.

We'll have a few interesting games tomorrow. Indiana probably should take care of OKC but I'm not sure I want to lay the 3.5 points and we have Boston again vs Cavs who have nothing to play for.

**NBA Maniac** · 04-11-15, 08:39 PM

Seto did you enjoy your trip ? had fun in the games ??
I'm praying for the playoffs... this 2/3 weaks of wait, make me gamble, and that not good, when we don't know what is going on player head's...

**Seto** · 04-11-15, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by freeeze

This game confuses the hell out of me. I'm staying away from it. Good luck on your bets.

We'll have a few interesting games tomorrow. Indiana probably should take care of OKC but I'm not sure I want to lay the 3.5 points and we have Boston again vs Cavs who have nothing to play for.

The Boston line might be unplayable. Books won't fall for this shit again especially with LeBron likely to sit out.

OKC/Indiana and New Orleans/Houston are 2 huge games for sure. Not sure if I'll bet either game though.

The Hawks/Wizards game is one of those games where Washington needs to prove a point against a team that has repeatedly embarrassed them and swept through the division. It's going to be very tempting to take them even though I think they suck.

**Seto** · 04-11-15, 08:50 PM

Originally posted by NBA Maniac

Seto did you enjoy your trip ? had fun in the games ??
I'm praying for the playoffs... this 2/3 weaks of wait, make me gamble, and that not good, when we don't know what is going on player head's...

Yes it was a fun trip. I'm disappointed not to be going back for the playoffs, maybe I'll try to go to the Finals in June depending on what finances are looking like and which teams make it.

I don't like the last few days of the regular season much either but there is money to be made as long as you stick to teams that have something to play for. But I try to keep it low key and not make big plays.

**Seto** · 04-11-15, 09:15 PM

Dwyane Wade is painful to watch these days. Dude is like 10% healthy.

edit/ looks like he had 30? i kept flicking between games so i musta watched the few plays where he looked like shit.

still he has been struggling lately

**Seto** · 04-11-15, 11:40 PM

Today: 2-1, +2x
Total: 169-279-7, +13.53x

Shit is proper tense now. Not even sure what to root for tomorrow. Do I want the Rockets to win out so they finish above the Spurs if the Spurs lose to the Pelicans on final day or do I want them to lose to avoid the risk of a 3-team tie and trust Memphis to win in Golden State?

**NBA Maniac** · 04-12-15, 12:00 AM

I was gathering info from Espn.com, coud check easily last 5 games, current form from last 10 games, total record, home-record, away-record. Next opponents, played matched in the current season with the present opponent, etc.

Since they changed, i'm pissed....

**oldscho0led** · 04-12-15, 02:08 AM

I actually love the Pacers tomorrow Seto. Biggest game of the season for them.