Grinder's Iteration on Stiflers NBA Chase

**Grinder12000** · 01-31-14, 10:19 AM

OVERALL "D" bets are 13-6 so far in ALL systems and Posted plays.

SAS2 is 5-7 in "D" games in ALL plays but we all have seen how it is lately.

Milwaukee is 7-13 ATS in last 20
Orlando is 6-14 ATS in last 20

After losing 3 ATS in a row Orlando is 16-17 AT HOME since 2006 and 17-24 as a chalk
After losing 4 ATS in a row Milwaukee is 8-12 at home since 2006 and 11-12 as a dog

A battle of the pathetic, the two worst teams in the NBA

All signs say this game will go UNDER

**Grinder12000** · 01-31-14, 05:33 PM

Nevermind! I can't stand rooting against myself. LOL.

**miczz14** · 01-31-14, 09:38 PM

trust the D bets LOL

**Grinder12000** · 02-01-14, 01:13 AM

02/01/14

Results

103A EX fade Orlando M M M Milwaukee 1.10 to win 1.00 LOSE
102A EX Oklahoma City 1.10 to win 1.00 WIN
96B EX Brooklyn 2.31 to win 2.10 LOSE

115B H3 fade Charlotte LALakers 2.31 to win 2.10 LOSE
116A H3 fade Toronto Denver 1.10 to win 1.00 LOST

117A S3 fade LALakers Charlotte 1.10 to win 1.00 WIN

54B SAS2 fade Charlotte LALAkers 2.31 to win 2.10 LOSE
47B SAS2 fade Utah Golden State 2.31 to win 2.10 Lose by 1/2
55A SAS2 Atlanta 1.10 to win 1.00 WIN

49D SAS2 Orlando play at your own risk!

Should I just start including the "D" games in the stats?? - people do tend to play the "D" games??
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Saturday games

114B H3 fade Chicago New Orleans 2.31 to win 2.10
115C H3 fade Charlotte Phoenix 4.85 to win 4.41
116B H3 fade Toronto Portland 2.31 to win 2.10

95C EX Portland 4.85 to win 4.41
96C EX Brooklyn 4.85 to win 4.41
101B EX LAClippers 2.31 to win 2.10
104A EX Oklahoma City 1.10 to win 1.00
105A EX Memphis 1.10 to win 1.00

52C SAS2 fade Houston Cleveland 4.85 to win 4.41
54C SAS2 fade Charlotte Phoenix 4.85 to win 4.41
57B SAS2 Cleveland 2.31 to win 2.10
58A SAS2 Houston 1.10 to win 1.00
59A SAS2 fad Oklahoma City Washington 1.10 to win 1.00

New Column - WITH "D" bets included - instead of a 3 game chase - 4 game chase

	Straight bet Winning Pct				Chase Units
	7 day	14 day	30 day	YTD	7 day	14 day	30 day	YTD	w/D bets
SAS2*	33.3%	43.6%	44.8%	52.7%	-14.89	-21.76	-23.05	-20.15	-3.47
EX**	53.3%	51.5%	50.0%	55.7%	-0.89	2.66	-15.28	9.20	3.34
H3,S3,O1	57.9%	39.5%	46.4%	53.1%	8.99	7.43	0.60	44.62	51.86
ALL Systems	48.1%	44.5%	47.0%	53.8%	-6.8	-11.7	-37.7	33.67	51.73

SELL

**Grinder12000** · 02-01-14, 11:11 AM

Make sure you check the final plays! SAS2 the loser system added th fade "C" Houston bet

January was a bad month - let's hope February goes better.

Looking at the 3 systems (SAS2, EX, Legacy group) The EX and Legacy are coming back while the SAS2 is still in a SELL mode.

**Grinder12000** · 02-01-14, 11:56 PM

02/02/14

Results

7-6 +3.02

114B H3 fade Chicago New Orleans 2.31 to win 2.10 WIN
115C H3 fade Charlotte Phoenix 4.85 to win 4.41 WIN
116B H3 fade Toronto Portland 2.31 to win 2.10 Lose

95C EX Portland 4.85 to win 4.41 lose
96C EX Brooklyn 4.85 to win 4.41 WIN
101B EX LAClippers 2.31 to win 2.10 WIN
104A EX Oklahoma City 1.10 to win 1.00 Lose
105A EX Memphis 1.10 to win 1.00 Lose

52C SAS2 fade Houston Cleveland 4.85 to win 4.41 Lose
54C SAS2 fade Charlotte Phoenix 4.85 to win 4.41 WIN
57B SAS2 Cleveland 2.31 to win 2.10 Lose
58A SAS2 Houston 1.10 to win 1.00 WIN
59A SAS2 fade Oklahoma City Washington 1.10 to win 1.00 WIN

could have been been a GREAT night but Portland blew it. Only a good night.

	Winning Pct				Chase Units
	7 day	14 day	30 day	YTD	7 day	14 day	30 day	YTD	w/D bets
SAS2	38.1%	48.8%	45.1%	53.1%	-14.89	-21.76	-23.05	-20.90	-4.22
EX	50.0%	50.0%	47.5%	55.1%	-0.89	2.66	-15.28	7.90	2.80
Legacy	61.9%	41.5%	45.6%	53.3%	8.99	7.43	0.60	48.82	56.06
ALL Systems	50.0%	46.6%	46.0%	53.8%	-6.8	-11.7	-37.7	35.82	54.64

Super Bowl Sunday OR The Professional Football Players Championship Game Day

103B EX fade Orlando Boston 2.31 to win 2.10
105A EX fade Boston Orlando 1.10 to win 1.00

Word of note - Phoenix just won 4 straight on the road!

**Grinder12000** · 02-02-14, 04:00 PM

02/03/14

Results
103B EX fade Orlando Boston 2.31 to win 2.10 WIN
105A EX fade Boston Orlando 1.10 to win 1.00 LOSE

	Winning Pct				Chase Units
	7 day	14 day	30 day	YTD	7 day	14 day	30 day	YTD	w/D bets
SAS2	36.8%	48.6%	44.4%	53.1%	-15.24	-17.40	-28.19	-20.90	-4.22
EX	47.1%	50.0%	48.3%	55.1%	-2.42	1.10	-10.75	**15.74	2.80
Legacy	56.3%	45.9%	44.6%	53.3%	1.76	9.22	7.90	48.82	56.06
ALL Systems	46.2%	48.1%	45.8%	53.8%	-15.9	-7.1	-31.0	43.66	54.64

**Note - I had the wrong data in that cell yesterday

Mondays games

116C H3 fade Toronto Utah 4.85 to win 4.41 H3 "C" bets are 8-2
118A H3 fade San Antonio New Orleans 1.10 to win 1.00 H3 "A" bets are 16-23

104B EX Oklahoma City 2.31 to win 2.10 EX "B" bets are 27-13
105B EX Memphis 2.31 to win 2.10

47C SAS2 fade Utah Toronto 4.85 to win 4.41 SAS2 "C" bets are 5-8
57C SAS2 Cleveland 4.85 to win 4.41
59A SAS2 fade Detroit Miami SAS2 "A" bets are 39-23
60A SAS2 fade Sacramento Chicago

Let's make a run to the All-Star game in a couple weeks.

Some of you might wonder - why not just dump SAS2 as it's a dog. The problem I'm having and what is blowing my mind is that using the exact algorithm for the entire year here is the result.

Man - ya don't just want to give up on something like this . .

on January 13th it was up 86 units!!

Attached Files

**miczz14** · 02-02-14, 11:47 PM

why is POR still in the system? theyve given us so much headache

**Grinder12000** · 02-03-14, 11:03 AM

Here are the year long charts of the systems - back tested included - NOT posted plays. Just looking towards next year to see what is working and what doesn't and when.

Do these show up as a link? or an image??? for you guys!

**Afterimage** · 02-03-14, 11:35 AM

Shows as an image. Interesting stuff. Is the chart flat or chase betting?

**Grinder12000** · 02-03-14, 11:59 AM

Those are all 3 game chases. When going through I did notice I had some 4 game losses and wins so I switched to all 3 game chases. Not much difference.

As for SAS2.

The BIG difference in the last 2 weeks is that while the "A" bets are not as strong they are still 55%. But the "B" games are 33% and "C" games are 22%.

The question is . . .is this an anomaly? I have to think so it is SO bad.

"B" were 38-28 and 5-10 the last 2 weeks
"C" were 19-8 and are 2-7 the last 2 weeks.

BASICALLY, as I predicted (sadly) in a post everything is coming back to about 57% but very violently.

As a whole SAS2 is 178-132 over the entire year.

I'll get to flat betting soon.

**miczz14** · 02-03-14, 10:37 PM

good god! why did i take por d bet when i know they r sh*t

im so stupid

**Grinder12000** · 02-03-14, 11:26 PM

Everything I touch tonight I have to log in - weird

02/04/14

Mondays crappy results

116C H3 fade Toronto Utah 4.85 to win 4.41 LOSE
118A H3 fade San Antonio New Orleans 1.10 to win 1.00 LOSE

104B EX Oklahoma City 2.31 to win 2.10 WON
105B EX Memphis 2.31 to win 2.10 LOSE

47C SAS2 fade Utah Toronto 4.85 to win 4.41 WIN
57C SAS2 Cleveland 4.85 to win 4.41 LOSE
59A SAS2 fade Detroit Miami SAS2 LOSE
60A SAS2 fade Sacramento Chicago LOSE

Hard to get ahead when everyone is playing each other at the same level.

	Winning Pct				Chase Units
	7 day	14 day	30 day	YTD	7 day	14 day	30 day	YTD	w/D bets
SAS2	36.4%	36.4%	41.0%	52.0%	-16.78	-32.45	-31.63	-23.54	-6.86
EX	50.0%	51.5%	48.3%	55.1%	-1.53	5.81	-12.99	15.53	-7.59
Legacy	50.0%	44.4%	43.1%	52.8%	-4.19	2.68	2.26	42.87	50.11
ALL Systems	44.6%	44.1%	44.1%	53.3%	-22.5	-24.0	-42.4	34.86	35.66

I hope noone is playing the SAS2 - unless they are playing AGAINST SAS2

Tuesdays

No games today

**Grinder12000** · 02-04-14, 01:41 PM

I've been doing ok straight betting AGAINST SAS2 and going small for the time being with the other systems chasing. Watching winning pct is or could be a key here.

**Grinder12000** · 02-04-14, 11:26 PM

02/05/14

Tuesdays games - none.

Active Wednesday

105B EX Memphis 2.31 to win 2.1
106B EX fade Boston Philadelphia 2.31 to win 2.1
107A EX fade Cleveland LALakers 1.10 to win 1.00
108A EX fade NYKnicks Portland 1.10 to win 1.00
109A EX fade Orlando Detroit 1.10 to win 1.00
110A EX fade Milwaukee Denver 1.10 to win 1.00
111A EX Oklahoma City 1.10 to win 1.00

118B H3 fade San Antonio Washington 2.31 to win 2.1
119A H3 Orlando 1.10 to win 1.00

59B SAS2 fade Detroit Orlando 2.31 to win 2.10
60B SAS2 fade Sacramento Toronto 2.31 to win 2.1

THREE "D" games tonight

SAS2 fade Houston
SAS2 Cleveland

H3 fade Toronto

I'm fading the entire SAS2 with straight bets( playing Detroit and Sacramento) and playing the other two systems as is, BUT I'm going easy and lowered the unit size until the Winning Pct gains a little momentum. .

Attached Files

**Grinder12000** · 02-05-14, 11:08 PM

02/06/14

Tuesdays games - none.

105B EX Memphis 4.85 to won 4.41 LOSE
106B EX fade Boston Philadelphia 2.31 to win 2.1 Lose
107A EX fade Cleveland LALakers 1.10 to win 1.00 WIN
108A EX fade NYKnicks Portland 1.10 to win 1.00 WIN
109A EX fade Orlando Detroit 1.10 to win 1.00 Lose
110A EX fade Milwaukee Denver 1.10 to win 1.00 Lose
111A EX Oklahoma City 1.10 to win 1.00 Lose

118B H3 fade San Antonio Washington 2.31 to win 2.1 Lose
119A H3 Orlando 1.10 to win 1.00 Win

59B SAS2 fade Detroit Orlando 2.31 to win 2.10 Win
60B SAS2 fade Sacramento Toronto 2.31 to win 2.1 Lose

	Winning Pct				Chase Units
	7 day	14 day	30 day	YTD	7 day	14 day	30 day	YTD	w/D bets
SAS2	38.1%	39.4%	43.3%	51.9%	-14.58	-27.84	-37.05	-23.75	-27.43
EX	40.9%	44.7%	47.5%	53.8%	-9.68	-4.68	-22.48	7.07	-16.05
Legacy	38.5%	44.7%	42.9%	52.8%	-5.50	5.09	1.26	41.56	38.62
ALL Systems	39.3%	43.1%	44.6%	52.9%	-29.8	-27.4	-58.3	24.88	-4.86

JUST WATCHING FOR A WHILE - maybe fading the entire SAS2 system.

Unless you are looking for action save your money for the time being and watch the winning pct.

Thursday Known

118C H3 Fade San Antonio Brooklyn 4.85 to win 4.41

I fear that with MANY NBA systems, they only work the 1st two months when players are fresh!

**Grinder12000** · 02-06-14, 11:02 PM

02/06/14

Result

118C H3 Fade San Antonio Brooklyn 4.85 to win 4.41 WIN

	Winning Pct				Chase Units
	7 day	14 day	30 day	YTD	7 day	14 day	30 day	YTD	w/D bets
SAS2	37.5%	40.6%	41.4%	51.9%	-8.32	-22.79	-39.75	-23.75	-27.43
EX	35.0%	45.7%	45.6%	53.8%	-11.68	-2.40	-23.20	7.07	-16.05
Legacy	45.5%	48.5%	43.6%	53.0%	-0.99	17.18	-0.53	45.97	43.03
ALL Systems	38.3%	45.0%	43.5%	53.0%	-21.0	-8.0	-63.5	29.29	-0.45

While the other systems falter the Legacy Systems keep chugging along

Fridays known games

LEGACY
120A H3 Detroit 1.10 to win 1.00
121A H3 fade Sacramento Boston 1.10 to win 1.00
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EX
106C EX fade Boston Sacramento 4.85 to win 4.41
109B EX fade Orlando Oklahoma City 2.31 to win 2.1
110B EX Oklahoma City 2.31 to win 2.1
112A EX fade Cleveland Washington 1.10 to win 1.00
114A EX fade Detroit Brooklyn 1.10 to win 1.00
115A EX fade NYKnicks Denver 1.10 to win 1.00
**************************************** ***

SAS2
60C SAS2 fade Sacramento Boston 4.85 to win 4.41
61A SAS2 LA Clippers 1.10 to win 1.00
62A SAS2 fade LALakers Philly 1.10 to win 1.00

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Bad testing - seems the Food and Drug Admin are not very good testers. They tested drugs on animals first - but ONLY male animals. Then they test the drugs on humans, male AND female but THEN, combine the results into one average.

Now they find out woman are not like men (HELLO KNOCK KNOCK ANYONE HOME?). Woman are constantly overdosing by 50%.

Bad testing.

**Jeremylynn** · 02-07-14, 06:59 PM

I feel a big weekend

**Grinder12000** · 02-07-14, 07:50 PM

The legacy systems has really been the consistent winner although sporadic. The other two were amazing in the first few months but have performed poorly the last month.

Im im playing legacy and watching the other two until I hope they turn.

**miczz14** · 02-07-14, 09:18 PM

i feel like SAS2 needs E bet.. LOL

and pls update this

SAS2	W	L	PCT	Units won per
A	36	22	62.07%	Chase	-0.27
B	8	12	40.00%	Straight bet	0.03
C	4	7	36.36%
D	4	1	80.00%

EX
A	40	36	52.63%	Units won per
B	26	12	68.42%	Chase	0.26
C	6	7	46.15%	Straight bet	0.09
D	4	2	66.67%

H3
A	16	22	42.11%	Units won per
B	12	10	54.55%	Chase	0.40
C	7	2	77.78%	Straight bet	-0.03
D	2	0	100.00%

S3
A	13	21	38.24%	Units won per
B	12	9	57.14%	Chase	0.46
C	7	2	77.78%	Straight bet	-0.05
D	1	1	50.00%

O1
A	30	15	66.67%	Units won per
B	6	9	40.00%	Chase	0.18
C	5	4	55.56%	Straight bet	0.14
D	2	2	50.00%

**Grinder12000** · 02-07-14, 09:40 PM

I'll get to that tomorrow!

WOW - Did EX totally blow tonight? THAT won't look good on their permanent record

**Grinder12000** · 02-07-14, 11:41 PM

02/08/14

Results

LEGACY
120A H3 Detroit 1.10 to win 1.00 WIN
121A H3 fade Sacramento Boston 1.10 to win 1.00 WIBN

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EX

SHUT OUT!!! LOSE LOSE LOSE LOSE LOSE LOSE

106C EX fade Boston Sacramento 4.85 to win 4.41
109B EX fade Orlando Oklahoma City 2.31 to win 2.1
110B EX Oklahoma City 2.31 to win 2.1
112A EX fade Cleveland Washington 1.10 to win 1.00
114A EX fade Detroit Brooklyn 1.10 to win 1.00
115A EX fade NYKnicks Denver 1.10 to win 1.00

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SAS2
60C SAS2 fade Sacramento Boston 4.85 to win 4.41 WIN
61A SAS2 LA Clippers 1.10 to win 1.00 in progress
62A SAS2 fade LALakers Philly 1.10 to win 1.00 WIN

	Winning Pct				Chase Units
	7 day	14 day	30 day	YTD	7 day	14 day	30 day	YTD	w/D bets
SAS2	44.4%	41.2%	43.1%	52.3%	-2.91	-18.28	-32.84	-19.44	-23.12
EX	28.0%	36.8%	40.3%	51.7%	-23.35	-18.50	-37.00	-5.70	-28.82
Legacy	53.8%	54.5%	45.5%	53.4%	1.01	21.80	0.78	47.97	45.03
ALL Systems	39.3%	43.8%	42.9%	52.6%	-25.3	-15.0	-69.1	22.83	-6.91

Saturdays games

Legacy - PLAY
110A H3 Milwaukee 1.10 to win 1.00
122A O1 fade Portland Minnesota 1.10 to win 1.00

SAS2 -Play cautiously
64A SAS2 Atlanta 1.10 to win 1.00
65A Sas3 Phoenix 1.10 to win 1.00
67 SAS2 fade Portland Minnesota 1.10 to win 1.00

EX - STAY AWAY
110B EX fade Milwaukee Houston 2.31 to win 2.10
114B EX fade Detroit Denver 2.31 to win 2.10

H3
A	19	24	44.2%
B	13	13	50.0%
C	9	3	75.0%
D	2	1	66.7%

O1
A	30	15	66.7%
B	6	9	40.0%
C	5	4	55.6%
D	2	2	50.0%

SAS2
A	39	26	60.0%
B	9	16	36.0%
C	7	9	43.8%
D	4	4	50.0%

EX
A	43	46	48.3%
B	28	17	62.2%
C	7	10	41.2%
D	3	5	37.5%

Unless someone really wants to talk me out of it I'm considering dumping the EX system. It was a experiment anyway and I think once a teams RPI is so low the point spreads have caught up with that team. Like counting cards in Black Jack it's the journey down (or up) that makes the difference. Once you HAVE a high count or low RPI, it's too late.

Plus the wild swings are not conducive to making money.

**voodoopulling** · 02-08-14, 04:02 PM

you was just using the rpi of last ten games for ex right? With the # of injuries in the nba 10 games maybe too long. just thinking out loud

**miczz14** · 02-08-14, 10:34 PM

thing is about EX, B bet is hitting 62%

**miczz14** · 02-08-14, 11:07 PM

i really feel like SAS2 E Bet would win

SAS2 E BET
POR
ORL
CLE
HOU FADE

**Grinder12000** · 02-09-14, 12:25 AM

02/09/14

results

Legacy - PLAY
110A H3 Milwaukee 1.10 to win 1.00 WIN
122A O1 fade Portland Minnesota 1.10 to win 1.00 Lose

SAS2 -Play cautiously
64A SAS2 Atlanta 1.10 to win 1.00 Lose
65A Sas3 Phoenix 1.10 to win 1.00 Win
67 SAS2 fade Portland Minnesota 1.10 to win 1.00 Lose

EX - STAY AWAY - At least it's a GREAT system to play the opposite!
110B EX fade Milwaukee Houston 2.31 to win 2.10 Lose
114B EX fade Detroit Denver 2.31 to win 2.10 Lose

	Winning Pct				Chase Units
	7 day	14 day	30 day	YTD	7 day	14 day	30 day	YTD	w/D bets
SAS2	47.1%	40.0%	43.1%	51.8%	-0.49	-15.38	-34.84	-20.64	-24.32
EX	25.0%	35.9%	38.1%	51.0%	-25.56	-26.45	-41.65	-10.32	-24.18
Legacy	58.3%	58.1%	45.6%	53.4%	3.32	12.31	0.99	48.97	54.19

Sundays known games

Legacy PLAY

123A H3 LALakers 1.10 to win 1.00

SAS2 Play small

67A SAS2 Fade Philly LAClippers 1.10 to win 1.00
62B SAS2 fade LALakers Chicago 2.31 to win 2.10
68A SAS2 Washington 1.10 to win 1.00
69A SAS2 New Orleans 1.10 to win 1.00

EX - Don't play OR play the opposite!

112B EX fade Cleveland Memphis 2.31 to win 2.10
109C EXfade Orlando Indiana 4.85 to win 4.41
111C EX Oklahoma City 4.85 to win 4.41
115B EX fade NYKnicks Oklahoma City 2.31 to win 2.10

**Grinder12000** · 02-09-14, 09:13 AM

Interesting idea Voodoo. Maybe go to 5 games which would be about 10 days. I'll have to look into this. Maybe ill do some testing starting when EX started failing.

**imotiv8** · 02-09-14, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by miczz14

i really feel like SAS2 E Bet would win

SAS2 E BET
POR
ORL
CLE
HOU FADE

these have lost 4 straight?

**Grinder12000** · 02-09-14, 11:03 PM

02/10/14

Results
Legacy PLAY

123A H3 LALakers 1.10 to win 1.00 Lost

SAS2 Play small

67A SAS2 Fade Philly LAClippers 1.10 to win 1.00 Win
62B SAS2 fade LALakers Chicago 2.31 to win 2.10 WIN
68A SAS2 Washington 1.10 to win 1.00 WIN
69A SAS2 New Orleans 1.10 to win 1.00 Lose

EX - Don't play OR play the opposite!

112B EX fade Cleveland Memphis 2.31 to win 2.10 Lost
109C EXfade Orlando Indiana 4.85 to win 4.41 Lost
111C EX Oklahoma City 4.85 to win 4.41 Win
115B EX fade NYKnicks Oklahoma City 2.31 to win 2.10 Win

	Winning Pct				Chase Units
	7 day	14 day	30 day	YTD	7 day	14 day	30 day	YTD	w/D bets
SAS2	43.8%	40.5%	45.0%	51.8%	-0.39	-15.73	-36.29	-19.74	-23.42
EX	26.1%	36.6%	38.5%	51.0%	-24.16	-25.58	-40.78	-10.97	-15.57
Legacy	50.0%	58.1%	44.6%	53.2%	-2.05	8.22	0.20	47.87	53.09
ALL Systems	36.7%	44.0%	42.5%	52.1%	-26.6	-33.1	-76.9	17.16	14.10

Mondays games - All Star break coming up!

69B SAS2 New Orleans 2.31 to win 2.10
70A SAS2 fade Minnesota Houston 1.10 to win 1.00
71A SAS2 Indiana 1.10 to win 1.00

110C EX fade Milwaukee Boston 4.85 to win 4.41
114C EX fade Detroit San Antonio 4.85 to win 4.41
115A EX fade Philly Golden State 1.10 to win 1.00

Expect a ton of games Wednesday as the NBA takes a break.

So I'm replaying the EX system but this time with 6 game RPI starting Jan 10th which coincides with when the fall started.

Get this - On January 15th I lost SIX "B" games and FOUR "A" games! I'll be really interested to see how this ends up!

**Grinder12000** · 02-10-14, 10:55 PM

02/10/14

69B SAS2 New Orleans 2.31 to win 2.10 Push - have not had a push for a while
70A SAS2 fade Minnesota Houston 1.10 to win 1.00 WIN
71A SAS2 Indiana 1.10 to win 1.00 WIN

110C EX fade Milwaukee Boston 4.85 to win 4.41 WIN
114C EX fade Detroit San Antonio 4.85 to win 4.41 Lose
115A EX fade Philly Golden State 1.10 to win 1.00Win

	Winning Pct				Chase Units
	7 day	14 day	30 day	YTD	7 day	14 day	30 day	YTD	w/D bets
SAS2	45.0%	41.0%	45.3%	52.1%	-0.70	-15.94	-33.47	-20.05	-23.73
EX	29.2%	36.6%	42.2%	50.9%	-24.60	-27.02	-33.10	-14.82	-19.42
Legacy	50.0%	53.8%	43.1%	53.2%	-2.05	-0.29	0.71	47.87	53.09
ALL Systems	38.9%	42.5%	43.6%	52.2%	-27.4	-43.3	-65.9	13.00	9.94

Tuesdays games

123B H3 LALakers 1.10 to win 1.00

122B O1 fade Portland OKlahoma City 2.31 to win 2.10

63B SAS2 Atlanta 2,31 to win 2.10
71A SAS2 Cleveland 1.10 to win 1.00
66B SAS2 fade Portland Oklahoma City 2.31 to win 2.10

112C EX fade Cleveland Sacramento 4.85 to win 4.41

**Grinder12000** · 02-11-14, 11:28 PM

02/11/14

123B H3 LALakers 1.10 to win 1.00 in progress

122B O1 fade Portland OKlahoma City 2.31 to win 2.10 in progress

63B SAS2 Atlanta 2,31 to win 2.10 lose
71A SAS2 Cleveland 1.10 to win 1.00 Win
66B SAS2 fade Portland Oklahoma City 2.31 to win 2.10 in progress

112C EX fade Cleveland Sacramento 4.85 to win 4.41 Lose

	Winning Pct				Chase Units
	7 day	14 day	30 day	YTD	7 day	14 day	30 day	YTD	w/D bets
SAS2	52.6%	43.9%	48.4%	52.5%	2.73	-14.05	-33.83	-19.26	-22.94
EX	26.1%	36.6%	41.3%	50.6%	-29.24	-30.77	-40.69	-19.67	-24.27
Legacy	60.0%	53.8%	43.4%	53.1%	3.69	-0.50	2.12	45.56	52.88
ALL Systems	42.3%	43.5%	44.4%	52.2%	-22.8	-45.3	-72.4	6.63	5.67

Obviously the EX system has failed! Like many systems that look great, with time they go belly up. People often wonder why a system can be so good and then crash but in reality it's because if you find something that completely fails you normally don't continue with it.

I will discontinue the EX after the All Star break - Not sure what I'll do with the SAS2 yet.

The Legacy systems are still doing fine and that is making me pretty happy.

We also have more Legacy games coming up after the break.

Wednesdays games

124A S3 Orlando 1.10 to win 1.00

63C SAS2 Atlanta 4.85 to win 4.41
67C SAS2 Philadelphia 4.85 to win 4.41
69B SAS2 New Orleans 2.31 to win 2.10
74A SAS2 Washington 1.10 to win 1.00
75A SAS2 Utah 1.10 to win 1.00

There will be some games on Thursday and then a break

SAS2 "A" bets are 45-30 and 22-19 since it's peak

H3
A	20	25	44.4%
B	13	14	48.1%
C	9	3	75.0%

S3
A	14	21	40.0%
B	12	9	57.1%
C	7	2	77.8%

O1
A	30	16	65.2%
B	7	9	43.8%
C	5	4	55.6%

**Grinder12000** · 02-13-14, 07:03 AM

02/13/14

	Winning Pct				Chase Units
	7 day	14 day	30 day	YTD	7 day	14 day	30 day	YTD
SAS2	52.2%	45.5%	48.5%	52.4%	2.30	-12.28	-30.97	-19.90
Legacy	66.7%	50.0%	48.0%	53.3%	6.00	0.50	2.43	47.56

Known Thursday games

123C H3 LALakers 4.85 to win 4.41

73A SAS2 Chicago 1.10 to win 1.00
75A SAS2 fade LAL Oklahoma City 1.10 to win 1.00

**Grinder12000** · 02-14-14, 08:32 AM

02/18/14

Legacy System YTD Total +43.19 units

I can't seem to erase this jpg. anyone know how??

It's been a good year for the 3 legacy systems so far. Winning pct is coming back after a horrible January

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	Winning Pct				Chase Units
	7 day	14 day	30 day	YTD	7 day	14 day	30 day	YTD
Legacy	63.6%	54.5%	50.0%	53.5%	6.00	5.01	7.15	43.35

The three Legacy systems

H3
A	21	26	44.7%
B	13	14	48.1%
C	10	3	76.9%
D	3	1	75.0%

S3
A	15	21	41.7%
B	12	9	57.1%
C	7	2	77.8%
D	1	1	50.0%

O1
A	30	16	65.2%
B	7	9	43.8%
C	5	4	55.6%
D	2	2	50.0%

I'm always surprised at the lack of Overtime games as the season wears on.

**Grinder12000** · 02-15-14, 10:02 AM

SO we still have 35% of the season to go and I'm pumped.

The O1 system will get an upgrade with more plays after looking at THREE game chases. FOUR game chases were to expensive but backtesting THREE game chases work out perfectly and I wish we had tested THREE instead of FOUR.

SO I'm goign to be posting

H3, S3 and O1 and the goal is still +100 units.

One odd this with O1 is the total difference between the Conferences in the shear number of OT games - In fact the EAST had twice as many as the West.

I'm going post graphs of all 3 systems so if there are any of you left still playing you can have an idea of the ups and downs.

EX is dead
SAS2 I'll continue to track but won''t post, I feel I scared people away

Back to basics and winning.

Red line is FOUR game chase
Blue is THREE game chase for 2013-14

**Grinder12000** · 02-16-14, 05:06 PM

H3 System +18.22 units - All Star break is giving me a great chance to go back and look at all the plays and make sure the spread sheets are corrected. Obviously I took on a little too much with the other systems. Hey - first year posting every freaking day!!

H3	W	L
A	19	27
B	14	13
C	10	3
D	3	0

H3 system takes certain teams when they have a 4 game Home or away stand and plays or fades that team.

S3 System +17.48 Not as many plays so a lose hurts more but it's the long run.

S3	W	L
A	15	21	41.7%
B	12	9	57.1%
C	7	2	77.8%
D	1	1	50.0%

Taking all 3 systems* the 4 game Chase is up 156.31 or 8.47 chase losses, the 3 game chase is up 81.01 or 9.80 chase losses.

* The O1 system is taking into account ALL teams so there is some room for flaming there (I know I know, the as posted Selected teams are still up 17). Just being truthful.

O1	W	L
A	56	43	56.6%
B	21	22	48.8%
C	17	5	77.3%
D	4	1	80.0%

Plays begin Tuesday and I'll have the 3 system plays posted Monday night! Let's rock out the rest of the way.

The basic talking point - all Legacy Systems are making profits

My GOAL

Using a 4 game chase with ALL Legacy Systems (S3, H3) and playing ALL O1 teams to win 50 units from this point and 100 for the year.