nba chase 12/13

**Teamprofit101** · 11-14-12, 10:08 PM

Damn i got utah a +5....In the future i'm going to just pay for the half point!!!

**swankk** · 11-14-12, 10:38 PM

Originally posted by Grinder12000

This is where some of us with +5.5 go off the grid.

the question is do you now have alternate lines for the pushers?

The answer is there shouldn't any pushers ... The system play was Utah Jazz +5.5 ... My book had +5 but I bought the extra half point.

**J.M. Disciple** · 11-14-12, 10:46 PM

I am not worried about the A bet pushing, but say system play was +5 and it was a C wager, do you continue over the next two games?

**Untied** · 11-14-12, 10:59 PM

Al Horford out tonight. GSW play looking better.

**mrk77** · 11-14-12, 10:59 PM

I wouldn't consider a push a loss therefore I wouldn't chase that bet and i would extend that series an extra game if needed

**tr4sh** · 11-14-12, 11:02 PM

if an A bet pushes, you play the B bet with A bet units. IE you play B bet for 1 unit.

**Grinder12000** · 11-14-12, 11:02 PM

The play was Utah. The spread has nothing to do with it.

a push just means the game never happened....for you.

**swankk** · 11-14-12, 11:12 PM

Originally posted by Grinder12000

The play was Utah. The spread has nothing to do with it.

a push just means the game never happened....for you.

You gotta be kidding, right? If the play was Utah and had nothing to do with the spread that is considered a Moneyline bet and that would be an 'A' Bet loss. If you paid any attention you would have read from Sir Stifler that the plays have everything to do with the spread...

**Grinder12000** · 11-14-12, 11:31 PM

What are you talking about - you say that if the line was +9 or -3 it's not a play? The line is meaningless as far as if you play a game or not. It has everything to do with PICKING the games but playing there is nothing. I think there is a semantics disagreement here.

The system play was Utah Jazz +5.5

The system play was Utah and when ever line it happened to be.

Maybe it;s your avatar - Carrot Top just ticks me off to no end!!

**Fed_42420** · 11-14-12, 11:52 PM

grinder you are right, carrot top is confused. he will figure it out

**Spartacuss** · 11-15-12, 12:46 AM

Stifler..... How old are you and what do you do for a living? If you dont mind me asking.

**thelimit0310** · 11-15-12, 12:50 AM

The line does matter but only the closing line as that is what was backtested.

**racer43** · 11-15-12, 01:38 AM

The line is somewhat important. Obviously a +7.5 is better than getting a +3.5. However this is an ATS system so you are right the actual spread doesnt matter as long as you played Utah. some pushed, some won, and possibly, not sure if it ever went there but some could have lost if they bought +4.5.

**kosti** · 11-15-12, 01:42 AM

Originally posted by thelimit0310

The line does matter but only the closing line as that is what was backtested.

Exactly, well said

**Riceboi** · 11-15-12, 02:06 AM

the closing line was +5 on Utah (a push), so I believe the Boston home fade is still active.

**swankk** · 11-15-12, 03:22 AM

Originally posted by Grinder12000

What are you talking about - you say that if the line was +9 or -3 it's not a play?

That's def not what I'm saying ... I'm saying that this system revolves around spread with the exception of S4. Few posts back you say the system has nothing to with spread...?????
And obviously you have to go with whatever the system spits out whether it's +9 or -3

**Stifler** · 11-15-12, 04:26 AM

Originally posted by Stifler

14.11.2012

S1

(B Bet) Atl fade: Portland -2,5 1,10u | Golden State -1,5 2,31u

S2

(A Bet) Bos fade: Utah +5,5 1,10u

records:
S1: W 6 | L 0 (+6,00 units)
S2: W 2 | L 0 (+2,00 units)
S3: W 1 | L 0 (+1,00 units)
S4: W 3 | L 0 (+3,00 units)

pending:
- S4 Tor fade, B Bet on 17.11.2012

**NicoleAniston** · 11-15-12, 04:52 AM

Who do we take for tomorrow? NYK or SAS? Both are S1: With winning ATS 3 in a row. Knicks would put you in a 3 of 4 game chase, one more game left after this. And Spurs just started their W streak and we'll be tuning in for a 4 game chase.

**Stifler** · 11-15-12, 05:01 AM

Originally posted by J.M. Disciple

I am not worried about the A bet pushing, but say system play was +5 and it was a C wager, do you continue over the next two games?

If we push on a C bet we will have another C bet on the next game fitting to the system.

The line does matter but only the closing line as that is what was backtested.

thats the point...closing line on covers matters, cause i did the backtesting there. I think Grinder and swankk talking past each other. Grinder just point out that i would have played any spread on Utah, whether its -10,5 or +5,5 cause they fit for the system play.

For those that pushes on the A bet: As covers closing line shows +5 it would have been a push for the system, when i recapped it later. Therefore we would have another A Bet on S2 Bos fade (means fade them on their next 4 home games again). Option 2 is to skip it as it´s just an A bet, u didnt lose any money here, u just didnt add 1 more unit to ur bankroll. If i would have pushed on the +5 play i would start a new series on Bos fade in their upcoming 4 home games. Still for me this series is over, its just an option for the guys who pushed on the A bet.

Stifler..... How old are you and what do you do for a living? If you dont mind me asking.

27

Just built up a new company with a few guys. We are selling care products (especially for diabetic guys) + products for hairdresser. [could tell alot more about that, especially a nice marketing idea we will start later similar to network marketing (but no scam here, worked out something where everybody has the same chance)].

Just a short info on that, we are here for gambling issues.

**Spartacuss** · 11-15-12, 05:14 AM

Stifler you sound like a very high achiever............ Destined to go far in life in sure.

**Stifler** · 11-15-12, 05:17 AM

Originally posted by NicoleAniston

Who do we take for tomorrow? NYK or SAS? Both are S1: With winning ATS 3 in a row. Knicks would put you in a 3 of 4 game chase, one more game left after this. And Spurs just started their W streak and we'll be tuning in for a 4 game chase.

for today its just S1 SA Spurs, im still waiting to see where the line is going. NYK had their A bet on 09.11.2012 and covered. The new streak started also, means they need to cover today to qualify for the next S1 play.

**Grinder12000** · 11-15-12, 07:12 AM

swankk - I sort of thought we were both on the same side and saying the same thing but differently LOL

OOPS - I did;t know no nominating a post created a new thread - my bad!! Meant to give points!

**fooubar** · 11-15-12, 07:13 AM

For those that pushes on the A bet: As covers closing line shows +5 it would have been a push for the system, when i recapped it later. Therefore we would have another A Bet on S2 Bos fade (means fade them on their next 4 home games again).

In theory it's still a profitable opportunity, so you should definitely start a new chase.
I'm gonna do it, although I won that A bet.

**lordlord2323** · 11-15-12, 07:24 AM

Today the play is Spurs !?!?

**Grinder12000** · 11-15-12, 07:38 AM

Yes. I got -5 Spurs

BTW - hate this play - one good bet is to play against a team coming off a 3+ game road trip - home cooking is not a good thing - they are relaxed and won't be sharp tonight.

Still playing the Spurs! and looking forward the "B" game Saturday! LOL

**fooubar** · 11-15-12, 08:36 AM

Originally posted by Grinder12000

Yes. I got -5 Spurs

BTW - hate this play - one good bet is to play against a team coming off a 3+ game road trip - home cooking is not a good thing - they are relaxed and won't be sharp tonight.

Still playing the Spurs! and looking forward the "B" game Saturday! LOL

Haha thought the same thing.
I hate this bet too ;D
Especially with the Knicks playing good defense at the moment.

**Asset** · 11-15-12, 10:38 AM

@Stifler; 11/15/12 S1 fade San Ant.@ NY Knicks is this the play for today? Thanks

**Grinder12000** · 11-15-12, 10:53 AM

@Stifler; 11/15/12 S1 fade San Ant.@ NY Knicks is this the play for today? Thanks

Not trying to answer for Stif but before a mistake is made.

Asset - CLOSE but no. Two reasons

1. SA has won 3 in a row so the play is on SA
2. NYK has won 5 in a row - WWWWW however WWW Was taken care of with the 4th W - THAT 4th W started a new streak so for the Knicks we are now at WW as you toss out the first streak of WWW.

Does that make any sense?

SO - if NYK does win then NYK is a PLAY their next game along with SA also being a "B" game play

**Stifler** · 11-15-12, 10:55 AM

15.11.2012

S1

(A Bet) SA: SA Spurs -5 1,10u

**Asset** · 11-15-12, 10:59 AM

@Stifler: Thank-you as always

@Grinder: Thank-you for taking the time to explain it to me in detail. I'm just really new to this; just trying to earn some extra cash, thank-you again

**Grinder12000** · 11-15-12, 11:20 AM

Asset - wait until baseball - I joined in about midway and was totally 100% lost. Especially when Stif uses Euro-style lines and every game had totally different moneylines. One game was -156 and the next +142. I needed an excel spreadsheet with formulas for that one.

**Asset** · 11-15-12, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by Grinder12000

Asset - wait until baseball - I joined in about midway and was totally 100% lost. Especially when Stif uses Euro-style lines and every game had totally different moneylines. One game was -156 and the next +142. I needed an excel spreadsheet with formulas for that one.

OMG!! you just gave me a headache and I just woke up

Thank-you again Grinder.

**Capnitrite** · 11-15-12, 12:28 PM

I love this. Cause I HATE the nba but love to gamble so makes my life much easier. Thanks Stifler

**Riceboi** · 11-15-12, 12:38 PM

Hey Stifler, if people that pushed are still fading boston at home their next 4 home games, well they play raptors next. And we are fading raptors, do we just play both bets for their respective amounts and keep chasing the loser of the two i'm assuming?

**thelimit0310** · 11-15-12, 01:09 PM

Stifler just a friendly suggestion but you should probably record Utah as a push even if the series won't continue. If you were backtesting this season that's what you would have seen and that's what you would have recorded. If you record it as a win your record will be inaccurate in comparison to your backtested records.