POCONO--5mike5

**5mike5** · 06-08-12, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by Optional

LOL. I did say longshot and gut ;-))

His record is actually pretty good, outside the win column.

i like it...

ive seen that gut of urs pick plenty of winners outside the favs...may take him too...

i thnk its better race than usual for a longshot to have good chance with 400 miles, and u basically cant go a lap down even during green flag pit stops

**RyanLeafOfBets** · 06-08-12, 10:18 AM

It's hard for me to bet on the favorites is Nascar, especially when odds are less than 4 to 1, so I made two small plays for now:

124112669-1	6/8/12 11:13am	$12.00	$144.00	Pending	6/8/12 12:30pm Motor Racing Sprint Cup +1200 Pocono 400 - Kyle Busch
124112669-2	6/8/12 11:13am	$12.00	$180.00	Pending	6/8/12 12:30pm Motor Racing Sprint Cup +1500 Pocono 400 - Carl Edwards

Carl's last 8 races here: 7, 37, 3, 12, 18, 2, 1, 9

Kyle's last 8 races here: 2, 3, 23, 2, 16, 22, 36, 43. Throw out the '08 and '09 races and he looks pretty good. Good value at 12-1 IMO

**5mike5** · 06-08-12, 10:27 AM

i like the kyle play...been waiting to add him, but 12-1 maybe best odds and when/if i rebet him shouldnt be much of a diff i hope

ill be routing for ya leafer

**5mike5** · 06-08-12, 11:11 AM

i pulled the trigger on the Candy Man (+1200)

thats it for me til after sessions i guess...want to leave room for 1-2 more mid packers

**5mike5** · 06-08-12, 11:37 AM

"official" 1st practice has begun

Qualifying lineup will be set off this 1st practice, so most will be focused purely on that, which is usually a big deal here in the past at least

**Optional** · 06-08-12, 12:15 PM

Qualifying starts at 11.00am... what's the bet some people decide it might be better to run early?

**5mike5** · 06-08-12, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Qualifying starts at 11.00am... what's the bet some people decide it might be better to run early?

ive heard both actually...at 11am seems like with a long qualifying session here, early would be a little better since maybe cooler but i dont know...maybe not suppose to be much of a temp. change

some teams (and commentators) mentioned sandbag and go out a little early may be better than late in session...which is what i would think...grubb and osbourne are 2 of them but they may have lied...hahah

shocked to hear some arent even fully focused on qualifying and are in race trim...only stat ill even look at is 10 lap-averages in next practice and even that wont shift me to bet based just on that

so basically who the hell knows

**5mike5** · 06-08-12, 12:29 PM

weekend forcast:

partly cloudy/ scattered T-storms

temp in the high 70s

chance of rain on sunday: 30-40%

**5mike5** · 06-08-12, 12:34 PM

just heard ALOT of teams are doing race runs and not caring about qualifying order because early+cooler=better, or just think race trim is 10x as important

im sure every1 will make a qualifying run though, almost have to

*according to radio and tv

**5mike5** · 06-08-12, 12:41 PM

i know keslowski, harvick and hamlin are NOT focused on qualifying this session

im sure every1 will make 1 Q-lap, but just arent focusing on it

**RyanLeafOfBets** · 06-08-12, 12:41 PM

McMurray didn't even have odds on 5D last night... Did he have odds before practice this AM?

**5mike5** · 06-08-12, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by RyanLeafOfBets

McMurray didn't even have odds on 5D last night... Did he have odds before practice this AM?

not sure

he could win the pole at he wouldnt be better than 50-1(and shouldnt be that high imo)

**5mike5** · 06-08-12, 12:54 PM

JGR in generally seems focused on logging laps,and race runs.. and kyle 29 with logano with a practice high 33 laps already

along with gordon, edwards, dinger all have 20+ laps that session (only drivers to have 20+ along with gibbs crew)

so ome teams wanted to go out early instead of late...basically that told us nothing...whats new

**RyanLeafOfBets** · 06-08-12, 01:00 PM

Dinger had a very good lap to get into the top 5... However, he does have pretty bad history here. Depending on where he qualifies, he might worth picking to win a group if he's fast in final practice. Just something I'll be keeping an eye on.

**5mike5** · 06-08-12, 01:01 PM

hes been fast all week...but these sessions dont mean much of anything to me..so many teams on different agendas so not much to compare anything to

55-1 as a longshot was a good grab imo...glad i got him though, but he and truex are my underdogs to bet if i take any this year

**5mike5** · 06-08-12, 01:35 PM

since no nationwide race this weekend, im going to bet something on the truck race to keep it intersesting..no CUP drivers this week

got TY DILLION to win the race so far

probably make 1 more play b4 it starts but no idea what yet

**Reno Paul** · 06-08-12, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

JGR in generally seems focused on logging laps,and race runs.. and kyle 29 with logano with a practice high 33 laps already

along with gordon, edwards, dinger all have 20+ laps that session (only drivers to have 20+ along with gibbs crew)

so ome teams wanted to go out early instead of late...basically that told us nothing...whats new

It's called sandbagging.

**Optional** · 06-08-12, 01:41 PM

We need odds on Junior cocking up a pitstop. Brand new slippery concrete surface boxes.

Tailing you on Ty Mike

**5mike5** · 06-08-12, 01:49 PM

any thoughts on anothetr play on trucks Opti?

maybe a H2H play or 1 more winner since odds are long?

**Optional** · 06-08-12, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

any thoughts on anothetr play on trucks Opti?

maybe a H2H play or 1 more winner since odds are long?

Nah. I am going for a nap soon, probably before the end of cup practice. So will check back just before truck race to see if you have decided on anything else though.

**5mike5** · 06-08-12, 01:59 PM

ok...

im going to hunt something i guess

**Reno Paul** · 06-08-12, 02:04 PM

Took Justin Lofton +750 for shits and giggles tonight.

**5mike5** · 06-08-12, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by Reno Paul

Took Justin Lofton +750 for shits and giggles tonight.

hopefully 1 of us will win a little something...

im going to take 1 more to win or maybe a H2H for fun

**5mike5** · 06-08-12, 03:43 PM

truck race:

Ty dillion (+825)

Ron Hornaday (+800)

those are my 2 picks to win the race....no real reasoning behind either pick, except to have a routing interest in the race tonight

since no nationwide race tomorrow, i may even go out on a limb and try a H2H parlay for fun too.

**TEXAS MICKEY** · 06-08-12, 05:46 PM

Truck Race weather is perfect, no wind, about 80 at the start.
Headed out to the Indy race tomorrow. Will be a lot warmer, should be in the mid 90's for the start.

Hornydomer and The Onion Head run very well here. Don't count those old fuks out of your equations.

Best truck races here were when we had Jack Sprague, Hornydomer, The Onion, Brendan Gauhgn, Mike Skinner beating on one another lap after lap.

Good Luck Boys.

TM

**5mike5** · 06-08-12, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by TEXAS MICKEY

Truck Race weather is perfect, no wind, about 80 at the start.
Headed out to the Indy race tomorrow. Will be a lot warmer, should be in the mid 90's for the start.
Good Luck Boys.

TM

have a good time TM!!

**TEXAS MICKEY** · 06-08-12, 06:15 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

have a good time TM!!

Thanks Mike,

This is always the cultural shock race weekend, tonight you have the Bubba and Betty Jo, drinking Budweiser, sagging

crowd, and tomorrow night you have the Biff and Bethany, cocaine snorting, silicone valley crowd.

**5mike5** · 06-08-12, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by TEXAS MICKEY

Thanks Mike,

This is always the cultural shock race weekend, tonight you have the Bubba and Betty Jo, drinking Budweiser, sagging

crowd, and tomorrow night you have the Biff and Bethany, cocaine snorting, silicone valley crowd.

**5mike5** · 06-08-12, 06:36 PM

added a H2H parlay:

Gaughan over peters (+100)
Klingerman over Piquet Jr. (-120)
Crafton over Bodine (-105)

TY DILLION (+825) to win the race

Ron Hornaday (+800) to win the race

*no reasoning for any of these bets really, except i want action since no nationwide this week...

definatley fade material, i stink at H2Hs in cup, much less trucks

**Optional** · 06-08-12, 07:55 PM

Just stuck with Ty Dillon and added this parlay for +500

Ty Dillon* -125 vs James Beuscher
Ron Hornaday* -125 vs Matt Crafton
Parker Kligerman* -125 vs Nelson Piquet Jr

**5mike5** · 06-08-12, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Just stuck with Ty Dillon and added this parlay for +500

Ty Dillon* -125 vs James Beuscher
Ron Hornaday* -125 vs Matt Crafton
Parker Kligerman* -125 vs Nelson Piquet Jr

well we dont have any H2H against each other..my parlay is +500 or so as well

ill be routing for ya buddy...hope its a good race..GL

**MatI** · 06-08-12, 08:12 PM

GL boys! I'm laying off the race, just woke up.

**5mike5** · 06-08-12, 08:12 PM

this cup race going to be flat out wide open alot more than i thought...crew chiefs switching chassis from testing tues/wed to what they are using in the race, and not even telling if they did switch it or not..hahah...sandbagging and different agaends in session...new pavement..odds are all jumbled up mostly in the same 8-16 to 1 range..good grief i have no idea who to fill out my roster with at this point...lol...win or lose im never really stumped on who i want to take..im very happy with my early bets though

this could be a week for a big cash in on long odds...

.i have absolutley no idea what to expect from these guys when the green flag drops...im not too sure they do either, but it makes me anticipate it more than ever!

**Optional** · 06-08-12, 08:16 PM

They keep talking about Piquet as a chance on the box.

Will kick myself if I miss backing him for his first win... been thinking for last few races 'this will be it', but have laid off him this week. (someone needs to take advantage of that personal jinx I just made)

**5mike5** · 06-08-12, 08:17 PM

Originally posted by Optional

They keep talking about Piquet as a chance on the box.

Will kick myself if I miss backing him for his first win... been thinking for last few races 'this will be it', but have laid off him this week. (someone needs to take advantage of that personal jinx I just made)

im routing against him just cause u back him almost every race u bet...

be awful if he wins tonight without ur backing him